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Tell me ...why aliens DON,T exist??

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posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 10:30 AM
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I BELIEVE...

But not because of some steaming pile of fish eggs story about abductions/aliens stole my husbands brain story


Its just mathematics really

OK picture it like this.. lets use a billion just to try to comprehend the figures involved

we can see a billion galaxies.


inside each one is a billion suns..


while i am not so egotistical like it seems most homo sapiens are when i comes to this subject.. lets just say each sun has the same number of planets revolving/evolving around it as ours...


every planet in our solar system has it,s own atmosphere type,density,size,pressure

Now lets say our techology is good enough to see a billionth of the existing universe

That one heck a lot of variables to conclude ANY type of life doesnt exist let alone more intellectually advanced than ours.. a baby galaxy with an immature population..

So opinion time.Why dont you think there is no other existing life?.I hope we can have fun with this one.I,d love to see every perspective. scientific/religious or even pure speculation.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 10:41 AM
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this is the basis of drakes equation :

outlined in full here :

drakes equation wikki



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 10:51 AM
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You have voted ignorant_ape for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

Wow. i cant believe i have never come across that before..

here,s me thinking i invented it.. typical humans see..


i never included the amount of different species on our planet though


i,ll try and get through it when i get back. worky time



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 01:12 PM
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First of all, this is a double negative...


Why dont you think there is no other existing life?


So as worded you are asking why do you think these is existing life, which I don't think is what you mean.

No, do I believe? Yes, Odds are there is life out there somewhere, who konws what kind of life, but life just the same. But until I see absolute proof, I won't say definitively that it is out there.

Also, nobody can prove that alien life doesn't exist. It is impossible to prove a negative.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 01:34 PM
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No one can say they do or don't for sure. But on page 17 in the link provided in my "Planetary Defense" thread, in this forum. You can read for your self "Drakes Theory", which tries to scientifically calculate approx how many potential ETs may exist.

The generalization is that even with the minimum calculation of one intelligent life form per galaxy, there would be potentially an infinate number of life forms bearing intelligence. It even goes into detail on evolution of potential life forms.
Heck even if there were 1 intelligent life form in every 1 billion galaxies that would still leave a near infinate number.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 07:12 PM
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Thank you ADVISOR. that is my whole point in one sentence.

The fact is that there is an almost infinite number of possible planets able to support an imaginable form of life

what do you think it would look like out of interest??



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 07:20 PM
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As for the double negative..... my mistake.. smirnoff blue has the habit of making your mind coherent but your grammar kinda poopoo



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 05:39 AM
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Just pointing out that there,s a lot of good information tucked away in the links at wiki that IA pointed me towards.. like..


there are an estimated 250 billion stars in the Milky Way and seventy sextillion (7 x 10 to the power of 22) in the universe


thats a lot of stars


Theory known as the Fermi Paradox is the sheer countless scale and probability of life elsewhere balanced against the lack of evidence



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 05:55 AM
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Of course aliens exist. You have to be an arse to think that they don't.

The question is, are they on Earth?



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 07:44 AM
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If the universe is infinitely expanding, that makes the probability of anything occuring infinite, which makes the probability of other life in the universe 1. That's the way I look at it. But like watch_the_rocks said, the probability that they made it all the way to Earth is another story.

So I'd say 100% likely that there is life elsewhere. If there were no photos or evidence that aliens were on Earth, I would say that would be well below 1%. But since there seems to be a large amount of circumstancial evidence that aliens have come to Earth, I'd give it the same % chance that there is a God, since alien abductions have approximately the same amount of eyewitness testimony, drawings of the beings in question, reports of all their crazy miracles, etc. So depending on how you look on that one, that could be a good thing or a bad thing.

Most scientists, even skeptical ones, will agree that there is most likely life elsewhere in the universe. But very few will agree that aliens are visiting earth.



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 09:15 AM
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I think that it is most probable somewhere over there some other life forms do exist, and that in that case it is again most probable that kinda intelligence will emerge there...

Just why would they waste resources coming to this pile of rubble sucking blood out of some cows and abducting some humans?



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