Can you learn telekinesis?

I was reading around the threads, and there is really no clear cut answer than ive seen for this one, so I was wondering if there is anyway that you can LEARN telekinesis, even if you have no experience with it before. I really wanna learn how to do it, but have no idea where to start.

PsiPog.net believes that anyone can learn telekinesis.

if youre a christian stay well away, if not then knock yourself out.

these things are things you should really stay away from, just because we have internet today, everyone is interested in these things. bad news period.

if you really want to do it, learn a remote viewing class, open yourself up to the spirit world and let what ever in.

yep in the real world any one should be able to open them selves upto this sort of thing, but no one ever considers that you may draw things at you and into you that you do not want. its like that doors song - break on through to the other side.

[edit on 3-6-2006 by andy1033]

why do you have to stay away if you're a christian?

all christians are suposed to believe that any paranormal powers are actually demon posession, you open the doorway, demon comes in and works through you. see what i mean about opening your mind to things, you just do not know what you might invite in.

thats the problem with the internet today, so many people are getting these sort of infos, and they are never told the risks.

remember the vatican has 1000's of years of knowledge on this subject. the vatican collected info on all religions and occult stuff that has existed over the last few thousand years.

if you think you are smarter than what comes in, don't go there because you may be in for a rough ride.

but hey its your life, you do what you want.

im not saying im going to do it... im just questioning it.


is it really about protecing the soul or person from corruption or danger? or is it about protecting the church's (in this case catholicism) from its authoritarian role in ones life?


dont christians try and walk into a spiritual dimension anyways when praying? wny would this be any different?

if you walk into a spiritual dimension regardless ... according to your statement above... one would be more susceptible to the dangers of it... prayer or not? correct? whats the difference?

the problem is when we go to mass we are giving rituals that are supposed to open us upto the holy spirit. also when you are a christian you have you go through baptism, holy communion, and confirmation. these are meant to gradually open you up to the holy spirit.
these rituals are 1000's of years old, and the vatican has some knowledge on this subject. it is just when you go on your own and open yourself up to something, you probably are opening to what we call demons(what ever that means). all paranormal stuff that is outside the church is supposed to be not done by christians.
you also say how do we know that the vatican is telling us the truth and why should we not open ourselfs up to the light and see what we get. thats a question you have to answer yourself, but like i said the vatican has collected 1000's of years worth of occultic knowledge, from other religions and all that. do you not think that 1000's of years ago people were opening themselves upto similar things, it is just today that people have access to the internet, and are getting these pieces of info without thinking it over first.

if you do go there, you will eventually break on through to the other side, what you find there is upto you, but also remember can you handle what comes through and there is no such thing as a free lunch. do not ever be fooled into thinking that whatever comes through is you, you are just opening yourself up for something to use your body and mind to work through. where people are told on the internet everything in the paranormal comes from them.

[edit on 3-6-2006 by andy1033]

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[edit on 3-6-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Andy, there is a place for you here. Believe it or not, some people don't want to get preached to on every thread.

As for the original question posed by trutt, there seems to be a concensus among people who believe that yes, anyone can learn how to harness these abilities with proper training. Some people are more blessed than others, just like some may be more apt at math, running, etc.

The thing with paranormal abilities that people seem to overlook is that they expect to be able to already have perfected the ability immediately. This is especially prevalant in PK, ie. people trying to lift a couch or something immediately on the first try. It's hard enough to physically do it... why would you expect you can do it with your mind? Training for things like telekinesis is very rigorous and gruelling. You need to be able to devote a lot of time and energy into the practices. You have to change your mindset entirely, learn how to focus and concentrate 10x harder than you probably ever have, etc. But if you do this, you will have gained the abilities.

Simply put, most people don't have the desire to bother. I know I tried and gave up after about two days, even when I was starting to get small results. Basically you have to start very VERY small and gradually work your way up. You can't expect a baby who has never walked before to just get up and run a 50 mile marathon one day. First he has to learn to get to his feet, and gradually start stumbling a bit at a time. Then he has to master walking, and finally start running, and then train even harder up to the big feat. The same goes for paranormal abilities.

Paranormal abilities are in fact not para-normal at all. They are a natural occurance in our world that anyone can harness.

For a more in-depth look, The Psychokinetic Research Project

As Umbrax said, Psipog is a very extensive resource on the subject. But be sure to analyze what you read and don't just accept it all at face value. A google search for "learn psychic abilities" (or similar) will also get you some good info.

[edit on 3-6-2006 by Yarcofin]

Originally posted by andy1033
if you do go there, you will eventually break on through to the other side, what you find there is upto you, but also remember can you handle what comes through and there is no such thing as a free lunch. do not ever be fooled into thinking that whatever comes through is you, you are just opening yourself up for something to use your body and mind to work through. where people are told on the internet everything in the paranormal comes from them.

i think i see your point. thnx.

i dont agree that in order for one to get thier sprit in tune with the divine creator (GOD) one has to follow the tenets (if you will) of catholocism. I do agree that one has to talk to God and most importantly listen (meditate). I do believe in reading the word as well to align ones spirit or person with the Divine. However... how can you be so sure that one cant do this and be able to conduct telekenisis and stay in line with God and away from the dangers of it?

I know of folks trying to get in tune with God and them saying they are being visited by demonic forces more and more because of it. So it can go both ways if we take your angle.

Wouldnt telekenisis just be a tool.. and it in of itself is not ... inherently... evil per say.

Can you provide me with some ground scriptual readings that would classify such as dangerous? Can you provide with me this devoid of multiple interpretations?


thnx man.

[edit on 3-6-2006 by krossfyter]

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[edit on 3-6-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Yarcofin... with respect to your previous post...

i see your point about in order for one to be able to learn tele K (lets call it this because i hate spelling the whole name out over and over) they have to understand that its grueling and takes a lot of time and practice... that one has to start small ... first grade... then graduate... slowly... i understand this.

however to use your slant to help us understand what it takes.... wouldnt some people be able to have the "knack" for it... be natural for it already without all the work? ... as it is in other fields? some folks are naturally gifted to be mothers.. while some suck major lemons at it and have to work harder... or perhaps test takers... etc. etc. you get my point.


what sayth you?


if this is true... how can one know if they are naturally inclined to be pretty good at Tele-K?

i cannot remember of hand any thing specific, but there is a story in the bible about jesus doing an exorcism on someone. before that state the demon possesed person could do paranormal things, and then jesus does the exorcism and after the person could not do the things anymore.
that story was supposed to dictate to the church that above all, any thing to do with paranormal powers was to come from demons working through the person.
someone on here may be able to find the right story (i.e book and chapter etc... but i cannot remember)
one problem with regard to your argument is there are two sides to the spirit world that is supposed to run this world. if youre rituals and intent is to open upto god, through prayer then all well and good. but the problem is when you use other rituals that are considered paranormal, you are opening yourself upto anything out there whether good or bad, you will not know.
with regard to telekinesis being just a tool, to do it really depends maybe on using certain parts of the brain, whether these are parts of the brain, that open you upto these forces, i assume they would be.

sorry to Yarcofin, but just trying to give a warning, that most sites do not warn people about what they are getting into.

[edit on 3-6-2006 by andy1033]

i understand the point about the spiritual dimension being either for good or evil (if we want to think in black and white way... or perhaps take a very linear approach)... but im not understanding where you find fault with my arguement?

if we approache tele-k for good... with Divine protection... to help humanity... whats wrong with this?

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[edit on 3-6-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Krossfyter,

Yes, I think some people have a natural inclination towards psychic abilities. This could vary anywhere from slightly above average, to incredible. However, the people who are naturally gifted at psychic phenomenon to such an extent of being able to levitate at will, throw around tables with PK, light stuff on fire just by looking at it, etc are indeed very rare, as anyone would know just from looking around the world. Most people have some intuition or similar gut feelings. This is also part of the innate psychic ability thing. Over a long enough trial, it has been shown that usually people can guess a 50/50 event correct 51% of the time. In millions of trials, this is much more significant of a finding than you would think. As for people being "naturals" as described above, I would say that would probably happen in less than 1 in 1,000,000 people, or 0.000001% of the population.

For more scientific studies on how psychic people may or may not be, I would recommend looking into the works of Dean Radin, The Institute of Noetic Sciences, The Boundary Institute, etc.

Andy,

The Bible says nothing specifically about psychic abilities, but it does look down on witchcraft and magick. It all depends if that's what you classify what we are talking about as or not.

[edit on 3-6-2006 by Yarcofin]

andy1033, you're spewing a load of hogwash. I'm not a christian and even I know that Jesus said "You shall do as I have done and more." He was referring to the miracles that he performed.

The largest stumbling block to telekinesis is getting over the deep down belief that you can't do it. You can, anyone can,,, you just have to believe that you can. Seeing it happen yourself reenforces your belief that you can. Therefore making it easier to believe in yourself.

You're not opening yourself up to anything, you're just directing the energy that is already in you.

I hope you try, and I hope you post your results.

Also, IMHO, Yarcofin normally has great advice,,,, Cup your hand behind your ear and pay attention to him.

I think Beer_Guy made a good point about having to get over your own doubts. It's pretty easy to say "You just have to believe", but it's surprisingly hard to do. It's like trying to convince yourself that the grass isn't green, when you're looking right at it.

I think the best way to go would be to foster these abilities in children and introduce them to it at a young age (before 3 years old). Don't push them, but if they have an interest or show any abilities, teach them that it's okay and to continue with it. Let them try to see auras and move things with their minds. They are young enough that society hasn't influenced and ridiculed them off of the subject yet. The results may be surprising. Just like their abilities to pick up language naturally, perhaps children are more able to gain psychic abilities before they fully develop. Although society would probably end up looking upon them as crazy afterwards, and you would be "to blame".

As Beer_Guy also said, you are not opening yourself up to anything, so it's not dangerous. I would recommend not messing around with activities such as ouiji and channelling if you don't know what you are doing, but with psychic abilities all you are doing is harnessing natural forces and using your own willpower.

Edit: And thanks for the compliment BG. You too =).

[edit on 3-6-2006 by Yarcofin]

Please stay on topic, this thread is about telekinesis and not a religious debate.

understood worldwatcher... thnx.

thnx Yarcofin for answering my question... and doing a good job at it by the way.



ill be honest with you... im an artist.... a painter and graphic artist. ive been in the game for so long that i have been able to truely see with my 3rd eye so to speak when it comes to rocking on the canvas. i open myself up to the other dimension... i have recently become aware of it and now im working on trying to hone in on it... to control it. its a very spiritual thing... i believe myself to be a conduit... and i have had some freaky esoteric things happen on canvas that have been playing out in rational life... or practical life. i also understand the concept of trying to open my mind like that of a child and not being bogged down by the rules of our society... so that i can let my muse explore with freedom without the limitations of again.. society and my own external editor. i wont get to in to that. with that being said.... would i be a strong canidate for tele-k?






[edit on 3-6-2006 by krossfyter]

Yes, it is generally believed that people who are more "right-brained", (whether left-handed like me, an artist, a musician [but not vocals], or whatever) are more apt to the sorts of things we are talking about. They tend to have more luck with these kinds of things, as well as just being more of believers in general. It apparently has to do with the creative part of your brain being more developed, and being able to apply it.

However, I'm not sure if/how that kind of thing "transfers over" or not, or to what extent. Instead of asking, why not whip together a psi-wheel and start trying? That's the only way you'll ever know =).

Like I said, everyone should be able to do it (with some small exceptions), so it doesn't really matter how good of a "candidate" you are. All you can do is get a good technique and practice until something happens, which could take from a day to a year.

I don't know if this really counts as something psychic, but sometimes it works for me and it's kinda neat, so you may want to try. Get a piece of paper. I find lined paper works best for me. And just look into the paper like there is a picture already there. Then just kind of trace over what you already see in the paper. I don't know how it works, but I've "pulled" some pretty amazing pictures out of the paper before. I think it probably has to do with the paper being recycled, and just randomized pieces of pulp. Sorry, that's kinda off-topic actually, haha.

[edit on 3-6-2006 by Yarcofin]

Originally posted by Yarcofin
Yes, it is generally believed that people who are more "right-brained", (whether left-handed like me, an artist, a musician [but not vocals], or whatever) are more apt to the sorts of things we are talking about. They tend to have more luck with these kinds of things, as well as just being more of believers in general. It apparently has to do with the creative part of your brain being more developed, and being able to apply it.

Doesn't it also have to do with whether or not you can access your subconscious?
I believe we can all have the same abilities, but most of us are unaware of what we can do with our minds/abilities.