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Reinstate the Draft!

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posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
[actually YOU have made this a racial issue as you have made many comments time and time again that noone other than a white person could be or should be a republican and that anyone but a white person who is a republican is (to quote you) "a sellout".

you have maintained that republicans are all racist (if any were non white then your logic would be blown out of the water and there are non white republicans and your logic is blown out of the water anyway making your assertion a moot point) meaning that all republicans are white and if you feel that only republicans should be drafter then that means whites only as you are under this impression that all repebulicans are white and racist. so really using your words and logic we have determined that you are in fact a racist and you dont even realize it. you can even deny it if you want but your words are here for anyone to see. sure you may not say it directly but thats the route of the coward, the same route some of the people you staunchly defend have done. which pretty much makes you a person with double standards.



it is also you who made the comments about black soldiers....after all if you hadnt then this thread wouldnt even exist.

i've said it many times before and i will continue to say it...

they are all the same and you dont realize it or you dont care. they use you and others to further themselves while you and i the average person suffers and fall behind. but feel free to keep thinking these politicians are going to save you or make real changes its blind faith in something that doesnt exist.


If you would like to talk about race issues,please create a thread that discusses the point. I will not stoop to your level of discussion which consistently revolves around race. I am speaking of the soldier and war here.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
[actually YOU have made this a racial issue as you have made many comments time and time again that noone other than a white person could be or should be a republican and that anyone but a white person who is a republican is (to quote you) "a sellout".

you have maintained that republicans are all racist (if any were non white then your logic would be blown out of the water and there are non white republicans and your logic is blown out of the water anyway making your assertion a moot point) meaning that all republicans are white and if you feel that only republicans should be drafter then that means whites only as you are under this impression that all repebulicans are white and racist. so really using your words and logic we have determined that you are in fact a racist and you dont even realize it. you can even deny it if you want but your words are here for anyone to see. sure you may not say it directly but thats the route of the coward, the same route some of the people you staunchly defend have done. which pretty much makes you a person with double standards.



it is also you who made the comments about black soldiers....after all if you hadnt then this thread wouldnt even exist.

i've said it many times before and i will continue to say it...

they are all the same and you dont realize it or you dont care. they use you and others to further themselves while you and i the average person suffers and fall behind. but feel free to keep thinking these politicians are going to save you or make real changes its blind faith in something that doesnt exist.


If you would like to talk about race issues,please create a thread that discusses the point. I will not stoop to your level of discussion which consistently revolves around race. I am speaking of the soldier and war here.


i guess you need a refresher.....




That's right, I said it! REINSTATE THE DRAFT! Ya see, these mouth-breathing trolls called repugnants are so quick to rush men and women of color into a war with other people of color


this is the very first line of the first post that started this thread. YOUR POST. YOU mentioned race as you are the one who started this thread right? since you mentioned race in your first post of this thread (the first post sets the theme for the thread) therefore you must be complaining about a racial issue. if not then you shouldnt have mentioned "people of color" as not all soldiers are "people of color", which also means you are excluding all white soldiers which means you are not talking about JUST this war and soldiers, you are talking about non white soldiers.


i also noticed you edited your post that i replied to...

i wonder why? you edited it to put in (of all colors) while not even changing the original post which mentions "people of color". so which is it? people of color or every person in the miltary?

you're not big on consistency are you?

care to try again buttercup?



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel

...rush men and women of color...



Ya missed a spot



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:00 AM
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I haven't edited anything. If I were to edit then you wouldn't have the original post where i said "people of color" b/c Iwould hav edited it. Now, although I did mention people of color, the trend of this thread generally revolves around the soldier and war. Race is insignificant.

If you would like to talk about race, bring it up in another thread, racist.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:03 AM
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But, I know why you do it. You do it becuase you have NO REAL ARGUMENT to bring forth. So, instead of debating the subject, you attack me.

You mentally weak and incapable of forming a cogent argument in this subject...just like a repugnant.

[Edited on 23-10-2003 by Colonel]



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:06 AM
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Need I remind you....


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem

Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem

Originally posted by Colonel

...Yep. Becuase once repugnants relaize that THEIR kids will be fighting and dying, then they won't want war.


no one in this ATS world is more repugnant than you colonel.
suck a nut with you and your draft, go fuc_ing volunteer like i did. (although rejected for hearing loss) I, a white male, and yes i have blue eyes, enlisted to join the army. and if you look at the infantry, who's up there? White boys, some minorities, rich, poor, Boy Scouts, and drop outs (who later finished).
To say we need to reinstate the draft is absurd.
I will not let my (second) 13 article of the consititution be ignored!

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
emphasis added

Without prejudice,
~BWBT~


So, now, I'm the bad guy? Now, I'm the bad guy for trying to come up with a way so that these repugnants will stop sending kids out on some god-forsaken field to doge bullets for their life? To stop these repugnants from allowing soldiers to contract DU radiotion poisoning from constant bombing? I'm the bad guy because I want these repugnants to stop LYING our soldiers into wars?

Ok, I'll be the bad guy.


you are being more than a "bad guy",

you are joining numerous violators of the U.S. Constitution, many of whom have taken an oath of office to defend it.

And by attempting to violate it with a draft.
You are thus joining your "enemy".

For you and all of the citizens who fail to make notice of the supreme law of the land your day is coming! I and many others shall see to it.

All Rights Reserved,

~BWBT~


If you dare mention that i am a repugnant, after proving the truth to you, you sir, are blind.

~BWBT~



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:11 AM
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Where ever the Colonol is there is sure to be a good heated discussion going on. I love watching him get everyone all rillied up.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
I haven't edited anything. If I were to edit then you wouldn't have the original post where i said "people of color" b/c Iwould hav edited it. Now, although I did mention people of color, the trend of this thread generally revolves around the soldier and war. Race is insignificant.

If you would like to talk about race, bring it up in another thread, racist.


as i stated before i didnt start the thread, you did and you specifically mentioned "poeple of color" in your first post which started this thread. you made it a racial issue by mentioning "people of color" instead of "all soldiers" which should have been used had you meant to talk about all soldiers which you clearly did not as you typed out "people of color" AND "men and women of color".

if you could at least say "hey, you're right i didnt mean it the way it looks" then i could overlook it but to backpedal by editing your post on this page (page six) to include the words "(of all colors)" makes you look rather clintonesque by waffling.

and it clearly states in your post "edited by colonel". you cant get rid of it if you tried so i along with everyone else can see you changed your post on this page. which still doesnt match up to your first post with mentions people of color which clearly makes this a racial issue, not one of all soldiers as you specified people of color, not a blanket statement about all military personnel.

and since you are so quick to accuse me of being a racist i defy you, dare you and challenge you to find ANY proof that i am a racist.

and no, "you're a repugnant" doesnt count as proof. i want to see an actual quote from one of my posts including the paragraph in which i said the racist remark as proof of your accusation of me being a racist.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem

~BWBT~


If you dare mention that i am a repugnant, after proving the truth to you, you sir, are blind.

~BWBT~

I wasn't talking to you.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey

Originally posted by Colonel
I haven't edited anything. If I were to edit then you wouldn't have the original post where i said "people of color" b/c Iwould hav edited it. Now, although I did mention people of color, the trend of this thread generally revolves around the soldier and war. Race is insignificant.

If you would like to talk about race, bring it up in another thread, racist.


as i stated before i didnt start the thread, you did and you specifically mentioned "poeple of color" in your first post which started this thread. you made it a racial issue by mentioning "people of color" instead of "all soldiers" which should have been used had you meant to talk about all soldiers which you clearly did not as you typed out "people of color" AND "men and women of color".

if you could at least say "hey, you're right i didnt mean it the way it looks" then i could overlook it but to backpedal by editing your post on this page (page six) to include the words "(of all colors)" makes you look rather clintonesque by waffling.

and it clearly states in your post "edited by colonel". you cant get rid of it if you tried so i along with everyone else can see you changed your post on this page. which still doesnt match up to your first post with mentions people of color which clearly makes this a racial issue, not one of all soldiers as you specified people of color, not a blanket statement about all military personnel.

and since you are so quick to accuse me of being a racist i defy you, dare you and challenge you to find ANY proof that i am a racist.

and no, "you're a repugnant" doesnt count as proof. i want to see an actual quote from one of my posts including the paragraph in which i said the racist remark as proof of your accusation of me being a racist.



Racist, what does this have to do with reinstatement of the draft?

Yuo continue to prove my point of you being vapid. If you want to take up the race issue, start a new thread on it.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:25 AM
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Ok How Did We Get On The Racist subject Race has nothing to do with a draft.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey

Originally posted by Colonel
I haven't edited anything. If I were to edit then you wouldn't have the original post where i said "people of color" b/c Iwould hav edited it. Now, although I did mention people of color, the trend of this thread generally revolves around the soldier and war. Race is insignificant.

If you would like to talk about race, bring it up in another thread, racist.


as i stated before i didnt start the thread, you did and you specifically mentioned "poeple of color" in your first post which started this thread. you made it a racial issue by mentioning "people of color" instead of "all soldiers" which should have been used had you meant to talk about all soldiers which you clearly did not as you typed out "people of color" AND "men and women of color".

if you could at least say "hey, you're right i didnt mean it the way it looks" then i could overlook it but to backpedal by editing your post on this page (page six) to include the words "(of all colors)" makes you look rather clintonesque by waffling.

and it clearly states in your post "edited by colonel". you cant get rid of it if you tried so i along with everyone else can see you changed your post on this page. which still doesnt match up to your first post with mentions people of color which clearly makes this a racial issue, not one of all soldiers as you specified people of color, not a blanket statement about all military personnel.

and since you are so quick to accuse me of being a racist i defy you, dare you and challenge you to find ANY proof that i am a racist.

and no, "you're a repugnant" doesnt count as proof. i want to see an actual quote from one of my posts including the paragraph in which i said the racist remark as proof of your accusation of me being a racist.



Racist, what does this have to do with reinstatement of the draft?

Yuo continue to prove my point of you being vapid. If you want to take up the race issue, start a new thread on it.





That's right, I said it! REINSTATE THE DRAFT! Ya see, these mouth-breathing trolls called repugnants are so quick to rush men and women of color into a war with other people of color



That's right, I said it! REINSTATE THE DRAFT! Ya see, these mouth-breathing trolls called repugnants are so quick to rush men and women of color into a war with other people of color



That's right, I said it! REINSTATE THE DRAFT! Ya see, these mouth-breathing trolls called repugnants are so quick to rush men and women of color into a war with other people of color



That's right, I said it! REINSTATE THE DRAFT! Ya see, these mouth-breathing trolls called repugnants are so quick to rush men and women of color into a war with other people of color


maybe you saw your own comments from your first post in this thread finally. now maybe you can answer a question or two about this comment.

if you were talking about ALL soldiers and meant EVERYONE should be drafted why did you say "people of color" and that only republicans should be drafted?

personally i'm against any form of a draft but everyone who is in the miltary at this time are there of their own accord and choose to be there. furthermore being the miltary means doing your job regardless of the politics behind your orders, something you fail to understand.

now to make sure you saw your own comment i'll quote it once more...




That's right, I said it! REINSTATE THE DRAFT! Ya see, these mouth-breathing trolls called repugnants are so quick to rush men and women of color into a war with other people of color


i got news for you. they sent a broad spectrum of people to iraq, liberals, conservatives, libertarains, etc. they sent whites blacks and every other hue of racial identity to iraq not just people of color so your statement is innacurate to begin with.

i have more than addressed what you have said in this thread but you choose to ignore it all and thats ok. i've said what i wanted to say and you cant seem to take a single stance on anything or even "man up" and admit that your first post is inaccurate in what you now clain you were really trying to say, in which case you were saying something you didnt mean or you are now back pedaling. either way it doesnt bother me in the least, i just think its amusing you're getting your panties in a bunch over me pointing it out.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey

i got news for you. they sent a broad spectrum of people to iraq, liberals, conservatives, libertarains, etc. they sent whites blacks and every other hue of racial identity to iraq not just people of color so your statement is innacurate to begin with.

i have more than addressed what you have said in this thread but you choose to ignore it all and thats ok. i've said what i wanted to say and you cant seem to take a single stance on anything or even "man up" and admit that your first post is inaccurate in what you now clain you were really trying to say, in which case you were saying something you didnt mean or you are now back pedaling. either way it doesnt bother me in the least, i just think its amusing you're getting your panties in a bunch over me pointing it out.


I think it is known, Colonel is ignorant. He doesn't even see what he wrote or for that matter believes.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey

i got news for you. they sent a broad spectrum of people to iraq, liberals, conservatives, libertarains, etc. they sent whites blacks and every other hue of racial identity to iraq not just people of color so your statement is innacurate to begin with.

i have more than addressed what you have said in this thread but you choose to ignore it all and thats ok. i've said what i wanted to say and you cant seem to take a single stance on anything or even "man up" and admit that your first post is inaccurate in what you now clain you were really trying to say, in which case you were saying something you didnt mean or you are now back pedaling. either way it doesnt bother me in the least, i just think its amusing you're getting your panties in a bunch over me pointing it out.


What does this have to do with reinstating the draft?



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:46 AM
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Ok Lets say just for a minute colonel did make a racist comment start another thread this threads topic it the draft lets keep it there ! THE Draft Not Race Can We Do that or do you feel a need to continue bickering like little children ?



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by tealc
Ok Lets say just for a minute colonel did make a racist comment start another thread this threads topic it the draft lets keep it there ! THE Draft Not Race Can We Do that or do you feel a need to continue bickering like little children ?


i already proved my point read pg.2



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem


i already proved my point read pg.2


Get Over yourself and continue with the topic at hand The Draft.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
. So, now let's have a draft and have THEIR kids sign up and die for some BS war on some foreign soil for oil?

[Edited on 21-10-2003 by Colonel]


The problem with that, based on past historical evidence, is that the kids of those in power will be the last in line to be called up - if called up atall. Just one of the perks of their daddy's job.



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 11:57 AM
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And Such is the way of our government its not what you know its who you know. He who holds the gold holds power



posted on Oct, 25 2003 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by tealc
And Such is the way of our government its not what you know its who you know. He who holds the gold holds power


Exactly. Be they DEM/REPUB/LIBER/INDEP...if daddy has game, you will not play in the game.

We have a volunteer military- raise your hand, take the oath to protect America and ALL that goes with. We don't need a draft and the issue was started as a racial issue to begin with by Al Sharpie to rile up leftist democrats.
The idea of "people of colour" representing high percentages in the forces stems from the oppurtunities sought by those who have limited resources for college and job skill advancement. These are offered by the military in the form of collge funds and skill training which, for many, can be laterally moved into civilian markets for a good living.

I took advantage, as I was poor in 1984; black and had nothing to eat and no electricity to cook with if I did. I found a way out besides welfare. I volunteered.

A draft is a very serious step.




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