Ufos Are Real And Extra-/terrestrials Fly Them

Originally posted by Denied
You know what, right at the beginning, when i read your first post i partly agreed with you.
Being that ET's can be contacted through meditation and spirituality.
I could of discussed that with you and tried your technique.

But as other fellow ATS members have repeatably stated, your attitude stinks, you talk to us like we are children yet something tells me your a child yourself.

My friend, you keep SHOUTING at us to reeducate, blah blah, dont you think we are aware of history, well most of us.

Most ATS members within the UFO community seem intelligent, and seeking the same path as all of us, to find the truth, whether they are a skeptic or not.

When you are ready for a mature and intelligent debate please let me know.

And yes, i agree totally with fellow members, what has happened to the UFO topic of late, we seem to get posters whom are distracting us, bringing us away from what we are all trying to achieve.
Mods, please help

1. NO ONE IS SHOUTING. YOU ARE BIASED OF LARGE PRINT. IT IS EASIER TO READ.

2. YOU KEEP MENTIONING ATTITUDE????? IF YOU KNEW HISTORY YOU WOULD NOT BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

3. THIS IS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN UFOS THAT WISH TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIGHER INTELLIGENCE AND NO ONE IS BEING TALKED TO LIKE A CHILD.

4. IF YOU FEEL YOU ARE BEING TREATED LIKE A CHILD THEN PLEASE FIND ANOTHER THREAD THAT WILL CATER TO YOUR FEELINGS.

5. NO ONE IS ASKING YOU TO RESPOND BUT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT BEING CONTACTED OR A SIGHTING WILL BE ANSWERED AND THAT IS ONE POINT OF THIS THREAD.

Really? I thought the point of this thread is for you to continue to name-call and insult others.


Mods? Mods?

If you are so sure about contacting ETs as such, please do so and ask them to take you away to your home planet.

Originally posted by nephyx
Why doesnt everyone just go outside, pray, take picutres and then come back and share this so called 'proof' that aliens can be summoned.. I will try sometime today or tommorrow and let you guys know.

The fact is that the prophet Jaweh has done the same thing and its been caught on video. Since he prays for these aliens from a religious point of view, it makes many people (Especially from other faith) disregard this evidence as a blashphemous hoax.

If you let ur so called religions get in the way of finding out the truth, then maybe u are the epitomy of ignorance. (Gem)

1. Thanks for more Ramon Watkins comment. it's OK. He may have been visited but went his own way or he just made it up??????

2. I did not understand my visits. Then during many night hikes me and friend always saw UFOs and they would create some spectacular event. Then last December this red craft that was seen before was flying over and I was just asking it to come down and it did. My friend crapped in his pants when it shined it's light on us and it flew off. Everytime I have gone out I just hoped/wished a UFO might appear and it would until I did something one night and they came and explained my visits. Now my friend calls them, when he is in a bad mood they do not come or show themselves.

3. This will be a series of events that will lead up to a possible contact unless they fly down for you immediately which is highly unlikely. They will make you work or they will not show themselves, they do it to me and my friend.

4. If you try just be in the best mood as possible. They see everything you think, it's all part of the psychic paranormal stuff. YOU MAY HAVE TO GO OUT FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

5. SORRY FOR NO LONG SONG AND DANCE SOME EXPECT WITH THIS SUBJECT.

Originally posted by Gemwolf

Originally posted by nephyx
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The fact is that the prophet Jaweh has done the same thing and its been caught on video. Since he prays for these aliens from a religious point of view, it makes many people (Especially from other faith) disregard this evidence as a blashphemous hoax.

If you let ur so called religions get in the way of finding out the truth, then maybe u are the epitomy of ignorance. (Gem)

No, that's not what I was saying. I was just trying to get it through to him to respect other people's believes. If he's trying to get a message through, he need to keep in mind people's existing believes. Attacking their believes will only be frowned upon, they will distance themselves from the "messenger" and his window of opportunity of getting his message through will become even smaller.

I beg of you not to turn this into a religious debate, as it already strayed in that direction, and it doesn’t accomplish anything.

PS. If you look at the links Unrealbutreal posted originally, you'll find pictures of supposed summoned UFO's. As usual, they're inconclusive.

1. This is tied to all History. Being factually incorrect is the problem this subject is not discussed. If you check most religions there is UFO related matter everywhere.

2. If someone removes part of their religion and refuses the rest then what good is it. If you do not study all UFO related information then why are you here talking about UFOs.

3. I WISH THEY WOULD LAND ON EVERYONE'S LAP SO WE COULD GET THAT PART OVER WITH, SERIOUSLY.

4. WHY DON'T YOU MENTION THE REAL DEALS GEMWOLF AND LEAVE THE FAKES OUT OF THIS THREAD.

5. THIS IS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN UFOS AND COMMUNICATING WITH HIGHER INTELLIGENCE.

6. THE ONLY THING CONCLUSIVE IS IN YOUR ABILITIES TO MIS-UNDERSTAND HISTORY AND DEBUNK WHAT OFFENDS YOU AND THE LACK OF TALENT IN COMMUNICATING WITH HIGHER INTELLIGENCE.


[edit on 26-5-2006 by Unrealbutreal]

Originally posted by nephyx
I understand what ur saying, but why should anyone care about religious beliefs getting in the way of finding the truth.. Honestly Im skeptical about this thread but it doesnt mean that anyone should cater towards the faiths of others.

We should all be making one unified effort to unveil the truth whether it be a religious or scientific one.

If you could prove that aliens exist by praying for them to appear then any christian who refuses to do so would be a complete moron.

THANKS

1. IF WE ALL TOLD THE TRUTH WE WOULD HAVE NO LIES AND WE COULD BELIEVE SOMEONE WHEN THEY SAY "LOOK UFOS AND EXTRA-/TERRESSTRIALS".

2. I WAS A HARD CORE SKEPTIC ABOUT EVERYTHING, GIVE IT TIME.

3. THESE EVENTS CAN HAPPEN OVERNIGHT FOR SOME, OTHERS MAY NEED MORE TIME.

4. YES WE NEED A UNIFIED EFFORT. IF EVERYONE MET EXTRA-/TERRESTRIALS THEN WE COULD JUST LAUGH AT OUR GOVERNMENTS, LITERALLY. UNTIL THEN WE WILL JUST BE THE HAMPSTER IN THE WHEEL OF LIFE. THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD.

Hey man.... I love the idea but your delivery is too abrasive for anyone to really get on board and entertain this info...This is precisely why you have been defending these "slightly" unconfined claims from the get-go...just tone it down man and please please please post a pic or two....You would be amazed what a few of those would do around here....Seeing IS believing, hell, you see things everytime you step outside SO you believe it. Give us the luxury of seeing Hey???? Theres a novel idea! Thats the way to do it......Photos is whats needed but no phony bologna because Im a photoshop whiz extrordinair and Ill be pickin' er apart real good and Im not the only one around here thats gonna examine your evidence either.


Photos.....NOT EXCUSES....Photos, either that or continue to rant like a child.


This is a challenge and an oppertunity to PROVE yourself.....Miss the boat and your gonna be blacklisted as a mouthpiece and a retard but entertain my request and you might be a hero around here. No kidding.

So, whats it going to be bud?

Originally posted by Gemwolf

Originally posted by nephyx
We should all be making one unified effort to unveil the truth whether it be a religious or scientific one.

If you could prove that aliens exist by praying for them to appear then any christian who refuses to do so would be a complete moron.

Aha. And he needs to convince us. If someone tells you to go pray to a tree and the tree will come alive and tell you the secrets of the universe, you want enough reason to do so. You're not going to be the "moron" and just walk to a tree and blindly start praying.

"Because I said so, and because your religion is wrong..." does not cut it for me, and I'm sure not for you or any atheist, Buddhist, or anyone with a slight amount of intelligence.

I posted a 550-word post to help him change his attitude and approuch. You get stuck on the religious part? I pointed out that respecting other people's believes may help him get his message through. I don't see how that is denying the truth? It's just basics he didn't apply when addressing the masses. I was actually trying to help him.

1. SAD.

Originally posted by optimus fett

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THANKS

2. I WAS A HARD CORE SKEPTIC ABOUT EVERYTHING, GIVE IT TIME.

Thought you had been contacted all your life?

i can and almost want, to have a debate about whether religion is tied to UFO's, i can talk about that.
But seriously mate, the way you communicate comes across as arrogant.

If you disagree, fair enough, thets stick to the topic at hand.

I can from the specific statements you made about history being a part of UFO's see a possible tie in, but rather than just say "U NEED A HIGHER INTELLIGENCE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYIN"

Is not enough, enlighten us?

[edit on 26-5-2006 by Denied]

Originally posted by nephyx
Gem, if someone told me that god can be found by praying to a tree and they sounded halfway convincing I dont think it would be so stupid to try. I mean what is someone losing by praying for aliens to appear, 5 minutes out of your daily message board time?

I dont want any beef with you but all im saying is that if you can debunk his claim by actually trying to summon your own aliens then you could put this whole argument to rest and you would know its not true.

1. WE AR NOT PRAYING TO TREES.

2. GEMWOLF GIVE THIS UP THIS IS NOT YOUR CUP OF TEA. YOU WILL HAVE TO LEARN THIS IN THE FUTURE FROM A SCHOOL HOPEFULLY.

3. IF YOU WISH TO PRAY TO THEM, OK. THAT IS YOUR TRIP, IT IS WHAT THEY DID IN HISTORY.

Unrealbutreal


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Originally posted by something smells
Unrealbutreal

Quote:

"I DO HAVE TO WARN THIS SHOULD BE ATTEMPTED BY PEOPLE OF TRULY GOOD NATURE. IF YOU HAVE BAD INTENTIONS THEN DO WHATEVER YOU DO BUT DON'T CALL UFOS"

Do you consider yourself "of truly good nature..."
Your behaviour here doesn't seem to indicate so. If you are an example of good behaviour then I wanna be a bad boy

Question, if someone is good and believes follows your instructions they would experience this unbelievable phenomena right? What if the same person were to do the same vigil but in the the company of a bad boy. skeptic like me, would they appear? No? Yes?

My assumption from your ludicrous claims is that they appear only to those who believe that they exist and believe they will appear when you call them. Can you not accept the possibility that something like you describe could be merely a psychological illusion, perhaps using some 'shrooms? Instead of calling the UFOs I suggest you call a Doctor....well a psychiatrist anyway.

Do they really come to you like calling a faithful dog? Assuming that these alleged craft are piloted by advanced beings do you really believe that they will come to you in a "Here boy, good dog Fido" sort of way?

Perhaps what you need is a Shepard. With his whistling he can get a dog to herd sheep and get them through hoops and stuff. Imagine what he could do with UFOs?

If its OK with you I will stick to calling the cat in at night. I am not sure what the neighbours would make of me calling out "Here UFO". I would lose what little respect I have

Anyhow I am not building a kennel for them

1. WHAT ARE YOU CHASING?????.
2. UFOS DON'T EXIST IN YOUR MIND.

Why hasn't someone come to shut this guy up?

Whacko, a total whacko.

Im starting to wonder if the loon has me ignored or just doesnt want to take the challenge?????????


Hey dude, if you can hear me...if your out there., how about some pics of your spaceship friends and their whips



yoooo-hooooo!!!!

2. YOU KEEP MENTIONING ATTITUDE????? IF YOU KNEW HISTORY YOU WOULD NOT BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

I do know my history, if you had the urge to start a new thread you would answer the questions, or, why have you bothered.

3. THIS IS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN UFOS THAT WISH TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIGHER INTELLIGENCE AND NO ONE IS BEING TALKED TO LIKE A CHILD.

I do wish to talk to aliens, heck most ufologists want to!, you are being demeaning in your responses.

How old are you seriously?



[edit on 26-5-2006 by Denied]

Originally posted by Mouth
Really? I thought the point of this thread is for you to continue to name-call and insult others.


Mods? Mods?

If you are so sure about contacting ETs as such, please do so and ask them to take you away to your home planet.

1. YOU LOVE THIS STUFF. CHECK THE POST AND YOU WILL SEE WHOM IS NAME CALLING.

2. THIS IS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN UFOS AND CONTACTING HIGHER INTELLIGENCE.

3. RESERVE THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION FOR YOURSELF BUT NOT TO OTHERS.

3. RESERVE THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION FOR YOURSELF BUT NOT TO OTHERS.

And the way you express your self is good?

Come one man, get real.

Originally posted by Census
Hey man.... I love the idea but your delivery is too abrasive for anyone to really get on board and entertain this info...This is precisely why you have been defending these "slightly" unconfined claims from the get-go...just tone it down man and please please please post a pic or two....You would be amazed what a few of those would do around here....Seeing IS believing, hell, you see things everytime you step outside SO you believe it. Give us the luxury of seeing Hey???? Theres a novel idea! Thats the way to do it......Photos is whats needed but no phony bologna because Im a photoshop whiz extrordinair and Ill be pickin' er apart real good and Im not the only one around here thats gonna examine your evidence either.


Photos.....NOT EXCUSES....Photos, either that or continue to rant like a child.


This is a challenge and an oppertunity to PROVE yourself.....Miss the boat and your gonna be blacklisted as a mouthpiece and a retard but entertain my request and you might be a hero around here. No kidding.

So, whats it going to be bud?

1. WHAT FLAVOR CANDY COATING WOULD YOU LIKE. I DO NOT MIND IF YOU RANT.
2. YOU GUYS AND GALS WRITE APPALLING COMMENTS THAT LACK ANY EMOTIONAL THOUGHT AND THEN THROW UNEDUCATED AND UNRESEARCHED OPINIONS IN THIS THREAD.
3. PROVE TO YOURSELF UFOS ARE REAL.
4. THIS IS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN UFOS AND COMMUNICATING WITH HIGHER INTELLIGENCE.
5. PART OF THIS IS FOR YOU TO RE-LEARN HISTORY.

Originally posted by Denied

2. I WAS A HARD CORE SKEPTIC ABOUT EVERYTHING, GIVE IT TIME.

Thought you had been contacted all your life?

i can and almost want, to have a debate about whether religion is tied to UFO's, i can talk about that.
But seriously mate, the way you communicate comes across as arrogant.

If you disagree, fair enough, thets stick to the topic at hand.

I can from the specific statements you made about history being a part of UFO's see a possible tie in, but rather than just say "U NEED A HIGHER INTELLIGENCE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYIN"

Is not enough, enlighten us?

[edit on 26-5-2006 by Denied]

1. THERE ARE OTHER THREADS. THIS IS NOT FOR YOU.

2. You will lose your debate about this connection to religions.

[edit on 26-5-2006 by Unrealbutreal]

Well, ladies and gents..Im issuing a Mother Goose ALERT .I have invited this kid in public forum to accept a challenge and oppertuinty to prove his claims. I have also sent the invite privately with no response.


Im declairing this a FRAUD and I suggest to all of the good people at ATS to no longer entertain this child and his spaceships fables


He is unwilling to put up anything at all other then emotionally driven rants. Personal points of view, emotional bla bla bla and no photos = BS

You my friend are like president Bush's favorite sandiwch......Balgonie


Best regards kiddo.







[edit on 26-5-2006 by Census]