Iran eyes badges for all Non Muslims

Originally posted by alphacenturi
I would imagine this is all over the Canadian news as the Iranaian expatriots are from Toronto. The National Post still has not retracted any statements. Wonder why, must have a pretty good reason.

This from the Ottawa Citizen who is affiliated with the National Post.

Quote;

[Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, acknowledged that he did not have any independent confirmation of the requirement for Jews to wear badges, but said he still believes it was passed.

"We know that the national uniform law was passed and that certain colours were selected for Jews and other minorities," he said.

"[But] if the Iranian government is going to pass such a law then they are not likely to be forthcoming about what they are doing."]

He has a good point with this last statment. Maybe the story has some credence after all.

Ninja Code Monkey- sorry, so far the story has NOT been proven false.

The story has been removed on the original link.
www.canada.com... a8-282a-4d18-954f-546709b1240f&k=32073

Originally posted by Mandalorianwarrior
It would not make it right because it's part of their culture and religion. That is the most foolish thing I've ever heard. You would allow a country to do anything they wish to another culture because it's in their religion?

Some things would make an entire culture wrong, this sort of thing being one of them. This would prove that the people of Iran are following the wrong sorts of people who do in fact have a thought process that takes them to the stone ages. Maybe they didn't. They still should do something about this hatefilled move that would only bring bad things for non Muslims.

It's funny how this religion no longer shows any respect for other relgions or other peoples views. People can't make a cartoon making fun of Muhammad but the Muslims can do something as crazy as put marks on people of another faith? What sounds worse to you??? The best thing is that Jews and Christians wont have violent riots at the level of which Muslims did over cartoons.

Iran can keep making these foolish choices, it only means that they will deserve to have their government changed for them. They do seem to follow the path of Nazi's and something needs to be done before they get out of hand.

You have no idea what you're talking about regarding Islam and Muslims. Simple as that. Not even worth enlightening someone like you.

All I will say is, Christianity is the real evil. That's the violent, crusading religion you're picturing Islam to be.

Not Christianity itself, simply the false believers who are waging war in direct conflict of the ideology itself, which claim to be strong followers of the faith.

UPDATE:

The 13-article bill — which focuses on economic incentives for Islamic dress — has been touted by conservatives as a vital tool to curb Western influence in the conservative Islamic Republic. No date has been set yet on a final vote on the bill.

"This bill brings no obligation, no imposition," said Emad Afresh, an Iranian lawmaker.

"It only requires the government to support the private sector," he said, adding that it was a way to "resist the (Western) cultural onslaught in a world where globalization is being imposed."

The bill does not call for police or other bodies to enforce stricter styles of dress for women. Instead, it rallies state agencies to promote Islamic dress and "encourage the public to abstain from choosing clothes that aren't appropriate to the culture of Iran," according to the copy received from the parliament's press office.

Also this in regards to the original accusations of Tagging religious minorities.

On Friday, a Canadian newspaper, The National Post, quoting Iranian exiles, said the law would force Jews, Christians and other religious minorities to wear special patches of colored cloth to distinguish them from Muslims. The report drew a condemnation from the United States, which said such a law would carry "clear echoes of Germany under Hitler."

A copy of the draft law obtained by The Associated Press made no mention of religious minorities or any requirement of special attire for them, and the Post later posted an article on its Web site backing off the report.

Yahoo.com

The canadian post backed off the story, and the Associated press themselves has a copy of the draft law which they claim has nothing to do with religious minorities.

As far as I can see is that the draft law is an incentive to bring traditional Islamic dress code for women by favoring companies which manufacture the clothes, as well as a way to "resist the (Western) cultural onslaught in a world where globalization is being imposed."

[edit on 5/20/2006 by DYepes]

It doesnt matter that this has now been proven to be baseless lies and hate-mongering. This story is now imprinted in the minds of the ignorant and uninformed masses. They dont care if the story is true or not, they wont read the clarifications on pg 20.

Just think about how this lie came about people. Do you accidently misinterpret "every Jew shall have to wear a yellow patch on their clothes" from something else? NO! This is blatant propaganda aimed at portraying Iran as something it most certainly is not. Iran is not anti-Jewish by any stretch of the imagination. Thats why these Zionist bigots have to make up PATENTLY FALSE news article like this. Think about it, if Iran was this rabid anti-semetic regime they wouldnt have to make this crap up now would they?

Now who gains from spreading this lie? Could it be the neo-con Christian zionists who are hellbent on remodeling the Middle East to reflect Ancient boundaries? The article was written by a neo-con sponsored author, nuff said.

[edit on 20/5/06 by subz]

I tell you what. To be on the safe side, everytime these threadas, or any other threads related to them get a page added to them, I will repost it on each page so those who do not read through all the content will noyl have to look at the page they go through.

Am I allowed to do that? I think I should considering these acusations have instigated some genocidal thinking and attempts at justifying war.

I think a mod edit to the original post should include the caveat of "This story has been officially retracted as untrue" as it is not in the sites interest to have such blatantly false posts floating about.

You are correct. Or perhaps the mods have an agenda to fulfill.... I personally believe these topics should be closed.

I am not a member of any religeon but the way i see it is if the "non-muslims don't like it they can move out of Iran. who wants to live there anyway considering they will probably have bombs shoved up their asses within a year or so.

I will admit this is probably not s good move for Iran on the other hand are we just outraged because instead of us the white man keeping them down they get their day?

I mean we bomb them, torture them, kill them, occupy muslim countries illegally, let Israel absorb Palestine........

I think it's not the same situation as it was in WW2 rather more or less a statement directed at the west to outrage us.

The bottom line is Iran is Iran and it's people support the president however his name is spelled lol. So I say it's not like they can't move out of Iran and move to a safer country.

G'day all,

This topic really gets me worked up into a frenzy -

First of all, this story has been debunked as false from all sides involved including the Iranians and the Israelis. It just really #s me that when the smallest mention or thought of anything being remotely anti-semetic, the whole kabalah bandwagon wips it up into something way more than it is to influence the uneducated public into thinking "Oh what a crazy lot those Iranians are". Yeah, they might not be the best people in the world; excuse me, their leaders might not be the best in the world but as the christian bible states "let he who is free from sin cast the first stone".

It's not as if the jews need the nazis or iranians to put a "label" on them, or any other religion in this world for that matter - each and every religion on this planet has some sort of "mark" that distinguishes them from others. Let's see.....

- the christian wear a cross, usually as a pendant on a necklace
- the muslims wear a small round cap and grow their beards
- the jews wear their skull-cap and some dress in black with those frizzy
sideburns.
So it's not as if they needed any help in being "marked" Heres a theoretical question for all you out there-

What if the christians and the jews both decided themselves that they will wear a blue and yellow sash respectively to make themselves more visible to the rest of the public and to in a way, push their religion more visually in an 'in your face' method? Would anyone else fire-up and protest that if they did it themselves?

As I previously stated "let he who is free from sin cast the first stone", none of the worlds religions, no matter how peace loving their holy texts might proclaim to be, none of them are clear of any blood on their hands for at some point in history their hands were awash with it.

Everyone knows how christianity was involved in the many crusades through the holy lands in history, aswell as persercuting so called "witches" throughout Europe. The muslims have their own place in history with their lands being violnce plagued, and the jews, might proclaim that they are the victims in any scenario that comes along but they are up there with the christians in regards to comiting atrocities.

They should question their involvement in the Bolshevik revolution that massacred many russians; their involvement in the famine in Ukraine of 1932-33 where 9 million peole starved on the orders of jewsish "noble-men" telling russia to take all their crops to feed russia; and lets not forget the current slaughter of palestinians on a daily basis and the Jenin massacre; Oh I almost forgot, in the 4 years after the creation of Israel, it is documented that the jews slaughtered upto 11 million Palestinians in their wars of imperialism and land grabbing.

Oh what short memories we have when only a handful of years after the holocaust, the jews have jumped the fence and commited these crimes themsleves.

To the moderators, I hope you don't censor this posting as I am not anti-semetic if anybody else may think that I appear like that, because for the record I am anti-religion! Especially when any religion tries to appear as being innocent and pure as white when underneath there are still stains of blood that will not wash away.

I do not conform or push any sides agenda, I follow my own agenda and thats that. People have a right to speak their mind and opinions and as the future flows across us, we are more and more circumbing to the censorship lords of our governments, clearly changing the way we live.

I think that someone should make a "label" for all us people who are disenchanted with the worlds religions and society itself......I think I would proudly wear a glod middle finger sticking up to the rest of the world and then maybe people can think and hopefully ask me "why am I wearing that around my neck"?

Melbourne_Militia

good chance if you ask me that this is being brought up so sheep will supporate any movement into Iran...'those crazy muslims wanting to build nukes and now doing this'...different people under the same agenda!

[edit on 21-5-2006 by invisibleplane]

Oh how horrible... being tagged.

THAT IS JUST WHAT HITLER DID TO THE JEWS... THEN IRAN MUST BE THE NEW HITLER!

Get out of here. This is a PSY OP!



[edit on 21-5-2006 by Christian IX]

Gee - when something like this happens it is almost a lose-lose situation. This article being published and claiming Iran has passed this law recently appears to be false. But what great timing, right?

At the same time when people start pointing out the falseness of the article, they run the risk of masking the fact the law was already in place!

As some one else pointed out the zunnar is required by Sharia law to be worn by non-Muslims.

Discussion on Dhimmi in Sharia law

Reference of zunnar by imam in speech

History of Zunnar and Dhimmi

Basically, by my understanding (which is open to correction by anyone with a better understanding), the non-Muslim in a Muslim society basically enters into a contract which provides them protection from harm if they follow the Dhimmi requirements, which include wearing the zunnar (which can have badges of varying signifying colors attached to them in accordance with the local authoritative decision). If the non-Muslim does not follow the restrictions they lose the protection.

Please correct me if I misunderstand.

Originally posted by Christian IX
This is a PSY OP!

Exactly what I've been saying and the neocons are behind it: Who is Behind the Iranian Coloured Badges Psy-Op Story?
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Originally posted by Valhall
Basically, by my understanding (which is open to correction by anyone with a better understanding), the non-Muslim in a Muslim society basically enters into a contract which provides them protection from harm if they follow the Dhimmi requirements, which include wearing the zunnar (which can have badges of varying signifying colors attached to them in accordance with the local authoritative decision). If the non-Muslim does not follow the restrictions they lose the protection.

Please correct me if I misunderstand.

Well, Iran doesn't exactly follow Sharia law to the letter. Even apostasy, which can result in death in many countries (like Afghanistan) isn't used in Iran, although harassment can still occur.

Here are a couple of Wikipedia entries about religious minorities in Iran...
en.wikipedia.org...
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It seems the Bahai's are the most repressed though. Although, there is still discrimination for religious minorities (Sunnis are considered a minority as well), but I do not think that badges are being worn in Iran and the Dhimmi is not followed to the tee:
More info...
en.wikipedia.org...

I am shocked that no mod has yet altered the title to indicate that this story is FALSE.

Nice try bill grant. Just trying to pass the buck on to Christians even though the label has been given to Muslims. Both relgions are bad if you ask me. I just think Islam is worse and leads to more hate. It may have been otherwise in the past but that's not the case today. They could both stand for some changes but one has clearly led to more bloodshed of late, Islam. You should look into some current events in search of some knowledge.