Did Hitler Really Commit Suicide?

Originally posted by Vanitas
You mean Traudl Junge?

Hey I am not claiming the documentary proves anything. I am simply saying I found it to be a very interesting account of the last days in the bunker. Anyone that is interested in Hitler would probably also find it worthwhile (it is lowkey, mostly minor day to day accounts).

US and UK Intel made up the Hitler died no id story.
The Russians were there first... according to historic records
and reportedly Stalin said "Hitler escaped".

The remains were buried elsewhere and recently Intel
(BBC History Channel.. )bull came out that some bone
ided Hitler for real.

Intel convinced Stalin and the world that Hitler died.
However there was a helicopter pad on the building top
accessible from the bunker.
So perhaps Hitler escaped.

Reportedly (see sig hdidenmysteries.org link) commanded the 7 days in
May stalemate with Truman with Intel services on his side due
to super weapons.
Some think from his super zeppelin.


He spent time in German near where the Holocaust museum
resides. Lyne, author researcher, saw Hitler and Eve at the
Texas Worlds fair and in the LBJ library saw the invitation.


ED: The Nazis had a lot of plans and sent gold to Evita to set
up relations. An stole it back to pay for SS Officers escaping
from Germany.


[edit on 9/22/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by Vanitas


Let me see if I understand: there are NO digital imagery experts on board (at least not willing to click twice to have a look at a single image)?

What are the odds, considering the number of ATS members, I wonder?
(Where's BuckDivision when you need him? )

Originally posted by Vanitas
reply to post by Vanitas

 

Let me see if I understand: there are NO digital imagery experts on board (at least not willing to click twice to have a look at a single image)?

What are the odds, considering the number of ATS members, I wonder?
(Where's BuckDivision when you need him?

)

That photo was used by brotherthebig in a Youtube video from
a collection on ATS.

So .. perhaps contact brotherthebig.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Thank you.

But don't you find it interesting (not in a good way, I might add) that there are absolutely no digital experts (even amateur ones) among all the thousands who frequent these boards?
Strange.

I have no dog in this race, as they say.
(Or an excess of time to kill.)
But I would have thought it reasonable to expect a minimum of interest in the "evergreen" personality that is A. H.
After all, every "ghost" photo gets a lot of interest and viewing...

Ah well.

You mean it might be a real photo of Hitler.

So, we don't touch that.

Here is what Mr. Lyne says, I mean take it from an expert .. and there
are some around.. in conspiracies, the lack or non information or sudden
disappearance of data once available.. puts a strong weight toward
something is true and wants to be hidden or confused by someone.


ED:The photo in question



[edit on 9/23/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by twitchy


Very interesting regarding the Weekly World News story. Do you know where I can read the story online?

I found this article which seems to back up the South America story. It talks about someone giving Hitler plastic surgery and then being murdered. There is also a comment that eerily backs up the South America story.

reply to post by Vanitas


Yeah, lack of interest tells you something.

Cheer up:
Hitler singing I want to break free


teslaandlyne (44 minutes ago)
Sorry folks, Truman gave in to this guy who's Super Zeppelin
flies around in Colorado. Operation Paper Clip free energy
scientists rule. All Tesla free energy beats Einsteins particles
and why Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity is sill secret. Tesla
is the Maxwell of the 20th century. Tesla put down the Laws like
Maxwell, Einstein is still a big theory.
Ask around. Find out who lied and who didn't.
Gravity is still a secret. How does air support electrical
momentum and cares less about gravity.

No one expected that post... yeah Hitler lived on and there are
too many things going on to blame on non existent ETs or
spirits. Real people are doing things on earth.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
You mean it might be a real photo of Hitler.

So, we don't touch that.

I see...
So, one could be forgiven for thinking that, speaking in general, conspiracy talk is active and even encouraged only when there is no chance in hell that the conspiracy might be TRUE?

Thanks!

And I do hope to hear more.











[edit on 2-10-2008 by Vanitas]

Maybe someone could ask Pres. Bush if Hitler escaped back then...his grandfather Prescott Bush aided/funded Hitler back then. He should know what happened to him!:

reply to post by imysbbad


Personally, I am grateful that I don't have the opportunity to ask him that.

Then again, apparently he is not the only one who prefers keeping silent about certain subjects... For a board bursting with eager minds the activity in this thread - or the other one, on BTS - is remarkably subdued.

It is plausible that the Vatican helped him there devious snakes as shown in history. Like what they did to the Knights Templer, Hitler was doing them a favour really.

There's photo's of this Father Krespi on the internet and after looking at the photo and reading a few of the supposed meeting stories, i've got admit this one of the most interesting conspiracy theories i've read on ATS for a while really has got the old cogs turning.

Flagged and starred.



[edit on 3-10-2008 by SR]

check out what this article says about Hitler:

But this was not the only bombshell Otto Skorzeny delivered that day in late-1999. Skorzeny, producing a shoe box full of 60-years worth of his personal photographs, showed them to Berman, describing each one in great detail. The collection featured a photo of a young, majestic Skorzeny in full S.S. Nazi military dress, next to his Führer, Adolph Hitler. Then there were photos of Reinhard Gehlen (S.S. spy and assassin) Dr. Joseph Mengele (the “Angel of Death”) Martin Bormann (Hitler aide and S.S. assassin) and Adolph Hitler (photographed in 1997 at age 107).

The Hitler photo was taken during a “reunion” at the Lake McDonald Lodge in Glacier National Park, Montana, on August 27, 1997. According to Skorzeny, Adolph Hitler was alive and well in the U.S. in 1997!

www.proliberty.com...

has anyone verified this?

I heard that he was dead at 107 in Bozeman, I guess from that article you posted but haven't been able to find any other supporting info on the net. However I would also like to add that I am becoming very suspicious of Princess Diana and her alleged death also.

Hitler WAS the victim of suicide. His body WAS discovered by the Soviets outside the Reich Chancellory and an autopsy was done on it, along with Eva Brauns body and those of the Goebbels family. The reason for all the rumors and false reports was because the Soviets had lied about having found his body, and then having spread disinformation that he, Hitler, may have fled by submarine to South America. And the Germans themselves had spread some of the confusion by hinting that Hitler was in Bavaria organizing the "National Redoubt" when, in reality, he was in Berlin. It wasn't until the late 1960's and early 1970's that rumors of the Soviets discovering his body started becoming more accepted in the West. And then finally, the Soviets admitted that they had found his body and done an autopsy on it. At this time, they released the autopsy protocols and the test results that they had done on what was left of the tissue and internal organs. Dental records were one of the determining pieces of evidence that helped sinch the authenticity of the autopsy.

Even if Hitler faked his death and lived elsewhere, he won't live long anyway due to his illness. Unless he also faked his illness.

Originally posted by Darkmind
Yes, but how would he have got there? How the hell could the most recognisable man in the world escape from the shattered ruins of Berlin? His secretary made it out, but only because she got lucky, dumped her helmet and her group and walked out before the mass rapes started by the Soviet soldiers.
Hitler was suffering what might have been early Parkinsons - the man was a shambling dribbling wreck. The chances of him making it through the burning rubble of Berlin, trying not to get shot by trigger-happy soldiers on both sides are nil. Even then, how would he have made it out of Germany? [/quote

A plane.

Then a sub to Argentina - or so the theory goes..

reply to post by twitchy

One of the biggest reasons I leave the issue open to wether he[Hitler] escaped or not is the fact that there was no ceremony for him!!! This was Germany's greatest leader and they gave him NO ceremony for his death??? Rommel recieved a great burial and a huge service. Why not Hitler??? I think the reality is there is no conclusive proof as to what happened to him. Just a thought

Has anyone ever thought mabe the russians killed him?