I found the prophecy of America in the Bible!, page 2

posted on Oct, 18 2003 @ 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by uNBaLaNCeD
That thing so many fear that they call the end of the world,which is really only the end for those who view themselves as Powerful as God.
A lot of people seem to think that God is a cruel entity because he allows things to hapen here the way they do,but in truth,these things happen because of those who view themselves a gods,because of the power which they wield for their own gain,at everyone elses expense.
Somehow these forces have turned things upside down,to make the people view them as righteous and good and fair,when very few of them actually are.
Seems like a cruel joke,but it won't change until a lot of people wake up,the joke is on us until then,and "they" are laughing.
It's all covered in the scriptures of almost every faith that exists.
It is up to each one of us to interpret it the way we see it,but then it is not up for interpretation beyond a point.
Sometimes I don't know what to think of it all.
Where one spends their eternity is a direct result of their works,regardless of whether they realise they are involved in something,it is our responsibility to be sure that our efforts result in something that is good for all,however insignificant that thing we do may be .
Peace be with you.

[Edited on 18-10-2003 by uNBaLaNCeD]

I agree. It's okay to fear God and Judgement, but I'm not afraid of what is going to happen to be when Judgement day does come, because I know that I've done good deeds in my life. I've also done some bad things, but nothing serious at all. I'm aware of Gods power, and respect it, but I feel safe knowing that I'll be in good hands.

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 18 2003 @ 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by uNBaLaNCeD
That thing so many fear that they call the end of the world,which is really only the end for those who view themselves as Powerful as God.

Which would include just about everyone in the Western world. The Catholics have put their "logic" and pleasure over God's commandments and if you go to mass on sunday, eat communion on wednesday and celebrate "Christian" Easter, you are in that cathegory. You have the mark of the beast on your forehead if you believe the ways of the Church to be sound doctrine and you have the same mark on your right hand when you actively work out this faith by joining. And don't think you can come to God and say you didn't know, for it is written all over the bible.... Repent!

But we are like God, Genesis declares it, God says it: "Oh no! Now they have become like me....". When we ate from the Tree of Wisdom we became like God and our eyes were opened. This was the truth in Satans deceiving words to Eve. His lie was that we would shurely not die. Both Adam and Eve are dead and buried and awaits the ressurection and the judgement like all the others who are now dead and gone. In Psalms God confirm this: "You are gods, but like mere men you shall die". Jesus even used this quote in order to proove his divinity, and everyone who believes in him is called a child of God. And a child of God is a god. Just don't believe that this makes you better than anyone, for if you do, you are no longer a child of God, for then you don't follow the teachings of Jesus who says you shall love your neighbour as yourself. To know that you are like God can help you to love yourself in order to love your neighbour even higher, and thereby Jesus, for him who receives a child receives Jesus, him who helps the needy helps Jesus etc. Him who believes in Jesus, believes in the Father, and he is truely like the angels in Heaven.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 18-10-2003 by mikromarius]

Thomas Crowne

posted on Oct, 18 2003 @ 07:52 PM

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hmmm, you must be a member of generation X.

Colonel, what about the woman that will be carried to safety and hidden on the wings of an Eagle?

What of the Lion and her cubs?

What of the millenia rule, at the end of which time Christ does not die, but stompa a mudhole in Satan's rear end and walks it dry? Pardon the last depiction, you now know why I'm a "Southern" Baptist!

uNBaLaNCeD

posted on Oct, 18 2003 @ 07:57 PM

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In the past 3 years I began searching for the reason for this disconnected feeling that has plagued me my whole life.
It is becoming clearer to me that we as a race have forgotten our true origins and have begun to take on a dualistic view of God.

I think it may be a manipulated/conditioned type of thing though...religions etc...

This is one interesting site that I stumbled across,among others-
www.christmind.org...

It makes sense to me but I need to learn more,lots more.

bigsage

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 01:29 AM

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does not necessitate the judgements on other lives...
instead of waiting for the great father to come back why not try to do right, right now...

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by bigsage
does not necessitate the judgements on other lives...
instead of waiting for the great father to come back why not try to do right, right now...

To me doing right is to inform the sheep about how their sheperds feed them milk from wolves and whores.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Colonel

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by mikromarius

Firstly, 2Esdras isn't in the bible. It's among the apocrypha/pseudigraphia (sp?) of the Tannakh.

Well, why isn't it included in the Bible and why is it in mine?

The eagle isn't USA, but the Roman Empire. He says specifically that the eagle is the fourth beast of Daniel. And Nebucadnezzar, Cyrus and Alexander the Great fulfilled the three former. The next world empire that came about was the Roman Empire, and through their false prophet the Pope, they have spread all over the world influencing the world to become enemies of Jesus through disobeying and scorning his Law and teachings categorically throughout history.

Doesn't this sound like the US?

If you're looking for referances to USA in the Bible, perhaps this one is better:

America seems to be Egypt prophetically, my remark.

Hmmm. That also could be true. Maybe America is the combination of Rome AND Eygpt being that it the strongest power on the planet. Could you go into this a bit more?

Or what about this one from the Song of Solomon:

So 8:8�"We have a little sister, And she has no breasts (Twin Towers? Read on); What shall we do for our sister On the day when she is spoken for? 9�"If she is a wall, We will build on her a battlement of silver; But if she is a door, We will barricade her with planks of cedar." 10�"I was a wall, and my breasts were like towers (!!!); Then I became in his eyes as one who finds peace (Jerusalem means Teacher of Peace

The two breasts here are probably the two schools within Judaism: Juda and Israel. They have among other things one Creational story each. I don't remember which belongs to whom, but Genesis 1 "belongs" to one of the schools and Genesis 2 "belongs" to the other. If you look closely they seem diametrical oposite from eachother. This may be the symbology of the star of David which some claim is the mark of the beast due to it's geometry and how it resembles the turningpoints (or whatever) of planet Saturn which is connected to Ba'al. But if this is the mark of the beast, the clock you have on your left (!) hand is such a mark. But this is pure folly, I believe. The mark of the Beast is Sunday worship and false Passover celebration. The Sabbath and Passover are God's mark on every believer's forehead and right hand. Study the Torah and you'll see this pretty quick if you keep your eyes open.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Could you expound on this? You have me a bit baffled.

Leveller

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by mikromarius
But we are like God, Genesis declares it, God says it: "Oh no! Now they have become like me....". When we ate from the Tree of Wisdom we became like God and our eyes were opened.
And a child of God is a god.

One interpretation, I guess.
But if you read Genesis again you will see that God was referring to man being like him only in the way that we could now recognise good and evil. A similarity to God does not make you a god.
Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden of Eden to keep them away from the Tree of Life - the fruit of which supposedly gave immortality.

You are on dangerous ground if you believe that you are a god. Gods are worshipped. Self-worship is not good. I believe that it is possible to believe that you are a child of God but in no way does this make you like him - just as a caterpillar is in no way a butterfly.

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 11:43 AM
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Colonel: I'll get back to you and your post when I get home where I have my bible and my referance material. In a couple of days I guess. Hope for your patience.

Now to you, Leveller:

Originally posted by Leveller

Originally posted by mikromarius
But we are like God, Genesis declares it

One interpretation, I guess.
But if you read Genesis again you will see that God was referring to man being like him only in the way that we could now recognise good and evil. A similarity to God does not make you a god.
Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden of Eden to keep them away from the Tree of Life - the fruit of which supposedly gave immortality.

We are not God, but we are like him. Did I say that we were God? We are created in the likeness of God, and we can look into the future like God and see the difference between what is good and what is evil in it. We already knew the difference between good and evil in our own environment, but we had no idea about the implications of sinning early in the race (this was what the Tree of Wisdom was about). Adam and Eve's sin we are all subject to. This is the wisdom Adam and Eve claimed despite God's warning (I guess warning is a better word than commandment or prohibition). Our godliness is crowned when we are ressurrected and allowed in to the Kingdom of God. Then we will be 100% angelic or godly. We will be granted eternal life and freedom from desease etc.

You are on dangerous ground if you believe that you are a god. Gods are worshipped. Self-worship is not good. I believe that it is possible to believe that you are a child of God but in no way does this make you like him - just as a caterpillar is in no way a butterfly.

Does a sheep give birth to horses? Does a rabbit lay eggs? No! God says in his first commandment that God is One and that we shall not worship any other gods. That you seem to be keen with idea of the oposite, only shows your spiritual inheritance and your biblical ignorance. Only the One God shall be worshipped, the sitting King in Heaven. If you pray to Arch Michael, you worship him. He's a good angel/god (elohim), but we are not alowed to worship him or pray to him according to the Law and Jesus. The bible recognise many gods, angels and principalities, but we are not allowed to worship them or pray to them. They are merely servants of the Most High and noth worthy of worship. If you don't comply with this simple teaching, you are confusing God's plan and put yourself in God's seat, claiming to know which angel should be trusted with the work of helping you out. Only God the Father is truely Good. And it is He who administer the Heavens and direct his servants. Jesus isn't even truely good. Only the Father is. If you want Abraham to pray for you, get circumsised and live like him. If you want Jesus to redeem you, live according to his teachings, that way you glorify his work and you take part in his salvation. These guys didn't speek for themselves out of their own minds, they delivered whatever God taught them.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Leveller

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 11:48 AM
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Well, you've accused me of being ignorant on the basis of YOUR beliefs.

Hello pot. This is kettle.

By the way, check where I quoted you? I'm pretty sure that you in any man's language you have stated that we are gods because we are children of God. Oh yes. You did. Exactly.
Then you go harping on about how all other gods are Ba'als.

Hmmm. Logic?

jrod

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 11:56 AM
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Some people thing the last book in the NT, Revelation, prophecized the downfall of the Roman Empire. The Roman empire fell but without all the extreme craziness the story tells. The US is the modern day Rome so maybe Revelation is about the US's down fall.

I found some scripture that says we should smoke/burn weed, I find much more interesting than the apocolypse. Mathew 30 "Let both grow until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weed and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn."

Byrd

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 12:03 PM
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You can apply Revelation to a lot of things, actually. If you read the **whole** book instead of tripping onto individual passages, you'll find it's actually a prophecy against Rome and the Roman empire.

I don't doubt that America will continue to be a stable country for a very long time. Bush is an absolute idiot (to the point that his father is angry at him over his latest foray) but he's not going to cause the "downfall of America" any more than Clinton did or Reagan did or Carter did... and so on and so forth.

These prophecies have been "going to come true any minute now!" ever since they were put down as being part of the official Bible (they were controversial and there were some who said "look, they apply to Rome, it didn't really happen, John was not a true prophet"... but they were overruled by others on the Diet.)

Personally, I agree with the early bishops who felt this shouldn't be part of the Bible and that the "prophecy" was wrong.

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
NAPOLEON symbol also was an eagle...
--Notepad-- EAGLES = BAD

So was it for Nazi Germany and the tribe of Dan. If you look at the Nazi eagle, you'll see that it holds the Sun (Swaztika) in it's claws. Beelzebub or Satan (Ba'al Sebub/Sebul) is the Sun god, and is also likened with a snake. The eagle with a snake in it's claws was a symbol of either the Roman Empire or the tribe of Dan (sorry I don't remember correctly, but it was one of them). The American eagle holds arrows and lightenings in it's claws.

In the English KJV the eagle is counted first among the unclean fowls which shall not be eaten. But the Hebrew word for eagle (Nesher) also means vulture which is probably the correct translation in the kosher rules. A vulture is indeed abominable, an eagle isn't. It is called an abomination relative to kosher practice. You shall not eat it, you shall hate the idea of eating it. It's a sin to eat it. It's disgusting.

The eagle is often used symbolically for enemies God sends to Israel when they brake his commandments. But it's an eagle who lends his wings to the mother of the Millennium King in the Book of Revelation. One of the faces of the four beings in Revelation is an eagle and so on. If the eagle was an abomination, all this would make no sense. It's the vulture that is abominable, not the eagle.

The heraldic eagle of the USA is not the bald eagle as many think, but Bird Phoenix known from Egyptian mythology. According to legend it was the only bird in Eden who didn't eat from the Tree for Wisdom, and this is the reason for it's immortality and strength.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

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jrod

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 12:40 PM
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Did Nostradamus say anything about the US? Is there really such a thing as a prophet?

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Well, you've accused me of being ignorant on the basis of YOUR beliefs.

So it's my belief and not the Truth that you shall not worship the gods? Get real. You have probably never thought about reading the Bibla in the languages it was written in and meant to be read in, have you? The Tannakh is designed for the Hebrew language, and the language itself with it's etymology and all explains the bible in detail. Any attempt to translate the Bible is merely an interpretation based on other languages and traditions. Get real. Do you explain math with botany? No. But you can explain bothany with math.

Hello pot. This is kettle.

By the way, check where I quoted you? I'm pretty sure that you in any man's language you have stated that we are gods because we are children of God. Oh yes. You did. Exactly.
Then you go harping on about how all other gods are Ba'als.

Hmmm. Logic?

Again: Does a rabbit lay eggs in your world? Is my Father something else than myself? Both a regent and a prince are nobleties, but the prince can't be regent until the sitting regent dies or leaves his throne and place his son in his place. With your logic a bunny gives birth to chickens. This isn't true. It's falseness. Or to say it in another way: ignorance. I pray that you'll see this clearly and understand what I say and which subliminal messages I give you here. It's really very simple. We are not God and perhaps it's a bit farfetched to say that we are gods evethough the Bible declares it, but we are indeed godly, and when we believe in God and serve him, we are his children. And the children of God are the gods.

The Hebrew word for God Elohim has two forms. Eith plural or plural intensive. The plural intesive part is only used about God, while the plural form is used for angels, rulers, judges, divine ones and gods. The angels, rulers, judges, divine ones and gods are the children of God. God is their Father. When Jesus says he calls everyone who believes in him for a child of God, he's speeking of them after the ressurrection as a promise. When people are ressurected they don't marry or get married, but they are like the angels of God. It is in the same meaning I say this. When you pray for something, believe that you already have been given it, and it will be that way. We are gods but like mere men we shall die, because of the consequence of the sins of Adam and Eve. We must die in order to be glorified and crowned with eternal life and our godliness is confirmed.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by jrod
Some people thing the last book in the NT, Revelation, prophecized the downfall of the Roman Empire. The Roman empire fell but without all the extreme craziness the story tells. The US is the modern day Rome so maybe Revelation is about the US's down fall.

It doesn't speek of the downfall of the Roman Empire only. It speeks of the downfall of all the empires and how they transmute into becoming eachothers' successors. In the end they will all work as one body. Mystery Babylon isn't the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire was the head that "is now" in the time of John. The C�sar of the Roman Empire who ruled while John write his Revelation down was Nero. The seventh head was the Holy Roman Empire which was ruled by the French and the Germans. Their prophet was the Pope. In the end of the HRE the German Emperor divided his empire into the ten empirial circles, ten regions which today is known as Germany and the nearest neighbours. These ten regions were the ten horns, and it is them who shall destroy Babylon. How could these ten horns destroy something when they hadn't yet seen the light of day? Nero didn't torch Rome becaus he hated the city. He torched to demonstrate his greatness. And remember how mystery Babylon shall receive double punnishment for her sins. Rome will burn once more, but still this time it won't be totally destroyed. But in the end God himself will destroy it totally so it will never rise again. God shall destroy it because she has lead the least among his children, his believers astray. When the mighty angel explains how Babylon will receive her punnishment, he throws a large millstone into the ocean. This is a subliminal referance to Matthew when Jesus speeks of the children. How it is better for someone who makes them stumble to be thrown into the ocean with a millstone around his neck.

I found some scripture that says we should smoke/burn weed, I find much more interesting than the apocolypse.

I'm looking forward to that indeed hehe.

Mathew 30 "Let both grow until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weed and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn."

Hehe, sorry I can't stop laughing, please forgive me. The weed is symbolic for unsound doctrine and lies planted by Satan. The harvest is closing. The sickle is sharpened.....

Blessings,
Mikromarius

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by jrod
Did Nostradamus say anything about the US? Is there really such a thing as a prophet?

Here's the meaning of the word porphet according to one source:

prophet - 12c., from L. propheta, from Gk. prophetes (Doric prophatas) "an interpreter, spokesman," especially of the gods, from pro- "before" + root of phanai "to speak," from PIE *bha- "speak." Used in Septuagint for Heb. nabj "soothsayer."

According to the KJV Hebrew lexicon nabj means spokesman, speaker, prophet

In other words prophet means a spokesman. Jesus calls the Holy Spirit for the Spokesman. The word he use can also mean lawyer or someone who knows the Law and defends the children of God when Satan accuse them falsely. The Holy Spirit determines what is good and what is evil, perhaps the Holy Spirit is indeed the fruit of the Tree for Wisdom that Man desired so much eventhough God had warned them about it's implications: Death. God would have given us to eat from the Tree in due time, but Man wasn't ready for it when Satan tricked them into eating of it. When Adam and Eve ate from the fruit, their eyes were opened and they started seeing like God sees: through time and space. They at once saw that they were naked and why this was embarracing, and they started fearing God and their destinies.

So yes. There are indeed prophets. Both Adam and Eve were prophets. If there weren't prophets we would still have been living in Eden, running around naked loving God as a caring father.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Leveller

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by mikromarius
So it's my belief and not the Truth that you shall not worship the gods? Get real. You have probably never thought about reading the Bibla in the languages it was written in and meant to be read in, have you?

I don't want to get into a religious argument with you as I feel that I would probably write something that would be offensive to your religion and believe it or not, although I don't agree with organised religions, I respect everyone's beliefs.

Suffice to say, you accuse others without knowing. That in itself is ignorance.

eagle

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 08:20 PM
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Well then, I'm doomed then eh?

Didn't expect to be part of the prophecy, but you know, I am an inventor so....

I'll make some nasty bombs now just because of you.

mikromarius

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Suffice to say, you accuse others without knowing. That in itself is ignorance.

And how do you know that I don't know? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the systemised evil that is dressed up as the Truth. When I speek against the Church I do this without knowing? What do you know about my knowledge of good and evil? How do you know how to discern between the voice of an angel of God and the voice of an angel of Satan? What do you know about how the Bible was written and how prophecy works? Who are you to critisise my just and honest anger against the worst oppressors and persecutors of Good the world has ever seen. All you see is accusations. You don't see millions being cast on Hell for their leaders' sins and their own ignorance. Stop judging what you obviously can't comprehend. There is a war going on. And we are at a turningpoint in history where "everything" is about to be fulfilled. A UN official said some time ago that the prophecies of Revelation are playing like a symphony these days. Not until now has it been possible for most of them to be fulfilled, and I'll promice you: They are being fulfilled as we speek. The great war that is dawning will kill 1/3 of everyone living on earth. "When the number of the living exceeds the number of the dead". This is today. There are currently more people alive and walking today than there are dead people sleeping in the Earth. God made a plan 6000 years ago and he wrote a Word which would mean salvation for them who believe in it and live by it. This Word even became flesh and blood, for everything God touch come to life. The prophets mediate this word. But the prophets are killed for the people of this world say they are evil. The children of Satan loves the dead and hates the living. If we had lived back then we would have loved Jesus. Sorry I have to dissapoint you, but I doubt most of you would have seen him as anything but a troublemaker and a charlatan, an evil man accusing the establishment falsely. I'll say like my Master: Ye hipocrites.

Blessings,
Mikromarius