Amazing Discovery Channel documentary on USAF Saucers ! Did anybody else see it ?

Did anybody see the Discovery Channel program about flying saucers yesterday .
All that about the saucers actually being aircrafts from the USAF and how they were based from the Nazi , Soviety Union saucers , all the cientists that worked in the project . Plus all that footage made it very easy to convince me about the truth behind flying saucers and their real place of origin , especially when it comes from such a trustable source such as the Discovery Channel .

Wow , what about that neat trick with the coil wires , that was amazing , I had never seen that before man . Imagine being able to enhance that and maintain the heat down to avoid combustion/explosion . You do that and you got yourself one increanable piece of machinery and the most revolutonary aircraft propulcional system ever . I was amazed by the hole documentary .
Not to mention that final footage ( that I had seen before , but after all that I had seen mad so much more sense ) . All those UFO being catch by the infra red scanners , man .... you could see the heat coming from the center of the disc .
No wonder that guy thinks that the propulsion system comes from the/is based by "coil wires"

Did anybody by any chance recorded that ? I wish I could have a copy of that documentary . Does anybody knows where to find some of that footage presented at the show ? Particularly that last one regarding the saucers being cacth in the infra red scan . And also is there any webpage that teachs that trick with the coil wires ? That seemed awfully easy to recreat .

I wanna discuss all this . So let's start discussing already .

Here is a good place to start.

link

Andreas Epp was the first one to claim credit for building one of these saucers.

Thanks for the link man ... but been there done that .

That documentary made an impression on me , i'm almost intirely convinced that UFOS are man made and that there is free energy ( especially if you consider the recent claims made by that hacker ) . Now see if you can catch the next time they air the show , I went to se the listings . Here they are Listings . Make sure you guys watch it . I feel it opened my eyes for the real issue behind UFOS .

Thanks for the heads-up. This is one I've got to see.

The drum I beat, probably too often: check into William Lyne, specifically his book, "Occult Ether Physics: Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion system and the Conspiracy to Conceal It".

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I will defintally be on the look out for it and if I can I will transfer it from my TIVO.....

But that being said I am always a lil wary of Discovery Channel....the Discovery Company is heavily subsidized by the united States Government and that makes me a lil wary. But that being said I will watch the show anyways because knowledge is knowledge.

Thanks a bunch

BTW check out this link about saucers....interesting stuff...a lil out there but interesting non-the-less.

El senor pom pom rides again

www.galactic.to...

I've seen that program many times.


The facts just don't add up. Arcording to them, the US army has hadn these super flying saucers for over 60 years. But why have these 'us flying saucers' never been used?


Think of all the wars since 1945 where these flying saucer could have been used. But no, they are telling us to believe this technology has been locked up in hangers collecting dust, which only makes things confusing when they say these flying saucers are responsible for UFO sightings.









It never delved into any UFO cases

The show used too many cheap movie shots to be credible.

It mentioned a few interesting things, but nothing great. Worth watching though.

"The show used too many cheap movie shots to be credible."

that is why you have failed in your search for the truth. It is quite accurate and I knew this information for a long time. They do have the technolgies perhaps you need to do some research outside of TV and internet resources. The discovery channels documentary "Real Flying Saucers" is more accurate then anything else on TV. My research has also led me to many of the same conclusions. The fact they used movie shots as examples is not enough to discredit the documentary neither is the fact that it was on discovery.

the problem with ET beleivers is that they are completely oblivious to real information and will use excuses like above to discredit information. Comments like those bring credability down not movie clips.

alrite The Doctor

how do u explain the flying saucers in paintings and drawings that are a thousand years old?

how do you explain the ufo's in photos 100years old??

alot of this stuff is older than the Us Gov't Tesla or even Leonardo Da Vinchi

looks like your busted

and to think; u claimed to know the absolute truth

its a pity that your "all encompassing" claims dont add up; and a further weakness of your arguement that you provide no evidence what so ever to back it up

so ...does the US gov't have time machines too ? is that why ufo's show up in 900yr old paintings?

nice try...
but no cookie for you

To play Devil's advocate for a moment...many of the "UFO"s in ancient art are actually misunderstood symbolism... (and known symbolic tools for those in the area)... However, sure, there are some which defy explanation.

Still though, the argument is valid. The simple fact is that "flying saucers" became a household word before we were building them. In addition, the ones we've built (and at least have footage of), are unweildy, unstable, and completely impractical...which is why we don't see fleets of them over Iraq, and billions poured into programs like the Raptor.

The Nazi saucers like Vril, Shreiver, and Hannaubrecht (sp?) seem to be more flights of fantasy than real technical blueprints. It's possible some of the experimental Horten craft was mistaken as UFOs, but again, there is still the problem of sightings prior to this, and not over Germany or it's war theatres.

Furthermore, there are numerous sightings and footage of craft by credible witnesses, including law enforcement, military officers, etc. that show the crafts exceeding any standard capabilities of human flight of the time (or even now).

The idea that ALL UFO sightings are simply misidentified test craft is a complete fallacy that even scientists would deny.

Ok so they have the technology to build flying saucers but they are not been used because of to unstable.Unstable enough to test it in foreign countries?

And i am not talking mexico or anything, take europe for example, the belgian triangles case wich i know really did happen and u want us to believe that this is all just a US experiment?

Sorry i am not buying this, it just doesent add up.

Germany was having a hard enough time trying to get rockets going the way they wanted during World War 2, what evidence do you have to show they mastered creating successful flying saucers, I guess you can use the same argument for America.

Point me to the sources you have, I'm really curious.

When I was in training for my military job, we were shown a training video on Information Security. Since my job required a secret clearance they really wanted to stress the importance of watching what you say over the phone or around other people, and not to talk about what you do at home. Anyways, the video (which is extremely old and boring) goes through a couple of scenerios, and you can infur that they are building something, but it's extrememly classified. Throughout the whole video I'm just dying of boredom, and I'm thinking to myself, "Could you please just reveal what they are building?" So we finally get to the end, and they reveal that they were building..........a UFO. I laughed my butt off. I remember yelling, "Are you ****ing serious? I sat through this video just to find out that they were building a UFO." Even though the video is completely bogus, I found it kind of odd that they make a video about building a UFO to teach us about information security.

Originally posted by Elsenorpompom

But that being said I am always a lil wary of Discovery Channel....the Discovery Company is heavily subsidized by the united States Government and that makes me a lil wary. But that being said I will watch the show anyways because knowledge is knowledge.

www.galactic.to...

Yeah, and when it comes to anything run by them TLC, Travel, Animal, National Geograhpic, and sadly, Biography, History, and History International Channels. I know because I read the largest local paper whenever I get a chance to at work. I think it was some-what propaganda, and possibly Bush or some of is FBI/CIA friends, not as associated with him or his family may have showed it to get "CT"s like us, and UFOlogists, the SCI-FI channel people digging for the truth, and just palin inquizative citzens asking too many questions. I know Michavelli wrote something like that in his book, I should know, I read the whole thing.

"alrite The Doctor

"how do u explain the flying saucers in paintings and drawings that are a thousand years old?" I am not an archeologist but from what they say they are nothing more then symbols It's ET nuts who can't accept the real truth and beleive everything they hear mis-interpret these things.

"how do you explain the ufo's in photos 100years old??"
I haven't seen to many of those but there could be a logical explanation you never know...

"alot of this stuff is older than the Us Gov't Tesla or even Leonardo Da Vinchi"
They never has photographs before Da Vinci and stories like War of The Worlds really influenced the ET culture. Why because people think Sci-Fi has hidden meanings War of the worlds was around when Tesla was around.

"looks like your busted"
How?

"and to think; u claimed to know the absolute truth"
That's because I do know the truth you are the one who is quite naive. As I have said before take it or leave it. I really don't care


"its a pity that your "all encompassing" claims dont add up; and a further weakness of your arguement that you provide no evidence what so ever to back it up"

See I knew what they had shown on Discovery before the Documentary was even made. I searched hard and wasted many resources and came up empty handed. You have no idea what I did for a living how much I sacrificed before I nearly killed myself. (accidentally)

"so ...does the US gov't have time machines too ? is that why ufo's show up in 900yr old paintings?"

That could be coincodence I have seen certain clouds shaped perfectly like saucers these are called Lenticulaire clouds. ufologie.net/htm/lenticulaires.htm check the link it has pics

"nice try...
but no cookie for you"

In your mind maybe but I still have yet to be prooven wrong on the fact there are no ET's on Earth.

www.ekip-aviation-concern.com... this is ours and it appears saucer shaped it is scheduled for 07 (maybe budget cuts...) but has a somewhat saucer shape.

no sir, the argument was about you proving your claims that all flying saucers were military creations

you claim to have inside info about that that u found in the "real world"

and you have yet to provide any evidence to back up your claims; so please provide the evidence *at least a tidbit would be nice

on several threads you claim to have the juicy info that millions of people are dying to see... the Truth of UFO's

we cant just let you claim all these things without backing it up

in my honest opinion you probably dont have this information, but ill wait and give you a chance...please show us the $$

you said "Thats because i do know the truth"

well please stop withholding the goods...and share

You want your evidence need I not remind you of the U2 spyplane (mistaken for UFO), Stealth planes (mistaken as triangular UFO's), SR-71 black bird (mistaken for UFO).

All are examples of human made UFO's

Here is a good website that talks about this a lil bit.
www.xenophilia.com...

In the near future after I am finished my work I will put it up online. I still have to make a few more trips to gather the info i need.

Hey Muzzleflash, I'm sending my ET friends over to The Doctors to pay him a little visit. Maybe they can make a believer out of him when they're dragging him out of bed while he's $%#*ing his pants.

Of course knowing him, he'll come up with some "Logical" explaination for it. I'd like to hear that one.

All hail the ALL KNOWING DOCTOR

Of course it's been known for a long time that at probably most of the more common UFO sightings are man-made experimental aircraft. There's no big argument or surprise there.

But there's no way USAF experimental aircraft can account for all of the sightings, particularly the sightings that involve high strangeness and effects that go way beyond the norm. Weird creatures, time shift effects, mental manipulation, etc.

And although when people think of UFOs, they tend to think of flying saucers, but UFOs come in a huge variety of shapes and sizes. Certainly more than can be accounted for by some ongoing Air Force project.

Whenever I see a newer program produced like this, I wonder what the "pre-debunking" is all about. Is it just another cheap TV production idea, or is somebody in authority expecting people to see more UFOs this summer and wants to try to explain them away in advance? Makes me wonder.

It ain't all just about hardware, folks. Check out this Vallee interview from a few years back:

Jacques Vallee Interview

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The thing that suprises me the most is how lightly the program deals with the subject.


This program is saying that the US government has had super Nazi flying saucers that use a clean source of energy and can out manuever any other aircraft known to man for over 60s years.


"Nothing to worry about folks. It's not even worth discussing or thinking about."


Wait a minute.


Think about it.


If this information is credible, why hasn't the subject been brought up during the oil debates?




The program presents all the information as fact. Now that just destroys all credibility.


















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