WIPO Broadcast Treaty: Expansive Free Speech Limitations Proposed by U.N.

They're going to do whatever they can to make money off of it, that simple.

It's the ONLY thing that this corporatracy cares about. All money, all the time.

Who at the UN was responsible for getting this proposal on the table? A Bolton agenda? Or some flunkies of his?

Seriously, they need to go suck wind.

Congress too. (And a small group of interconnected, powerful telecom and mainstream media monopolies)

where are the naysayers? im waiting for their response to how this document DOESNT infringe on the freedom of speech.

Please some mod put it on front page, it is very very important for the future. Because if they do succeed with this law, we are cooked. Our children and ignorant people (the majority) will be feed with propaganda and people who diverge from government's opinion will be terrorists and threat to national unity/security.

If this law pass without insurrection, we're dead.

grimpraeper, there is still people on ATS that defend Bush and Corporations? If there is, they are corporations CEO or I don't know what!!

[edit on 4-5-2006 by Vitchilo]

I don't know if there's much to worry about at this point.

Obviously such maneuvers speak of malicious intent, but if y'all need more proof of that at this point, y'all haven't been paying attention.

The crux of the issue is enforcement.

Laws are fine and dandy, but without enforcement, they're meaningless.

No totalitarian, thought-controlling government can exist on this planet or any other without casting a shadow of rebellion, and because the technology that drives this new world is complicated, the whipmasters will find themselves forever delegating the technical aspects of their reign to the very people they seek to enslave.

How can you win a war against thought with an army of thinkers?

[edit on 4-5-2006 by WyrdeOne]

[edit on 4-5-2006 by WyrdeOne]

I've got to agree. Everyone should read this. If for no other reason than to understand how dangerous the UN has become.

Originally posted by WyrdeOne
I don't know if there's much to worry about at this point.

i would say there is, from the amount of US support its getting. From the mere fact the US, supposive representative of freedom, is the main supporter of this.

Obviously such maneuvers speak of malicious intent, but if y'all need more proof of that at this point, y'all haven't been paying attention.

lol very true

The crux of the issue is enforcement.

Laws are fine and dandy, but without enforcement, they're meaningless.

im pretty sure they could enforce it if they were really dedicated. with the profit they could make off of this, id say its pretty certain it would be enforced.

No totalitarian, thought-controlling government can exist on this planet or any other without casting a shadow of rebellion, and because the technology that drives this new world is complicated, the whipmasters will find themselves forever delegating the technical aspects of their reign to the very people they seek to enslave.

How can you win a war against thought with an army of thinkers?

how can you win, make it so no one is thinking...hasnt that what the media has been doing? turn on the TV, watch all the mindless shows, then tell me people are thinkers. its pretty easy to win this war, make it so they dont think at all.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
If for no other reason than to understand how dangerous the UN has become.

The centralized institutions of the UN can certainly be dangerous. But, the UN is not acting in isolation here. This proposal would be become nothing if it weren't for the fact that so many countries are supporting it, including the US.

This shows how dangerous modern government has become.

[edit on 4-5-2006 by Jamuhn]

Originally posted by Jamuhn
The centralized institutions of the UN can certainly be dangerous. But, the UN is not acting in isolation here. This proposal would be become nothing if it weren't for the fact that so many countries are supporting it, including the US.

This shows how dangerous modern government has become.

[edit on 4-5-2006 by Jamuhn]

No argument here. I was shocked when I read about the US support. The problem I see is that to fight this the media is needed and they have an interest in wanting it to happen.

The UN has also brought forth into the forum the possiblity of a global gun ban. Somehting in my opinion that should have ushered the end of the UN all together. I dont think this issue of free speech will come of anything though. As long as people arent putting out a message of violence, or advocating it in any manner, then I am all for free speech. This is so similar to the RIAA's push in the 90's to ban downloading of music and movies. THough I understand they want their intellectual property protected, they make enough money as it is, and I believe the statistics have shown in the past that downloading music doesnt influence sales all that much. If I want a cd of an artist I like, I go buy it.

This is so similar to the RIAA's push in the 90's to ban downloading of music and movies.

They are still trying to do that. See the Piracy is worse then downloading Kiddy porn link I posted above.

you know the more i hear about the U.N. the more i see new world order in the making

the new U.N moto: we are borg!! one world one voice one mind .

you will be assimalated , resistance is futille..........

The UN is merely the sum of all it's parts. We elect governments and they appoint the UN ambassadors, etc.

they are barking up the wrong tree

i just hope people defend themselves and their rights

if people defend their rights, than everything will turn out for the better

someone said the modern gov'ts are becoming quite dangerous

well, look at it the other way, we are becoming quite dangerous to them, now arent we? with all our information sharing and thinking and such

they are in for quite a bit of trouble

If this passes, I'll take the responsability to create rebellion in my province in Canada. And we will surely succeed and a lot of those politicians will be hang up!

Originally posted by Vitchilo
If this passes, I'll take the responsability to create rebellion in my province in Canada. And we will surely succeed and a lot of those politicians will be hang up!

If this goes through I'll be rebelling by breaking this law every chance I get, and if I get slapped with a lawsuit, I'm going to fight it! My Bittorrent client is going to go into overtime.

If enough of us do it and they try to sue enough of us, and a goodly percentage fight it in the courts, we'll clog up the system to the point where we will force them to change it back to the way it was!

[edit on 4-5-2006 by sardion2000]

Originally posted by WyrdeOne

...because the technology that drives this new world is complicated, the whipmasters will find themselves forever delegating the technical aspects of their reign to the very people they seek to enslave.

How can you win a war against thought with an army of thinkers?

Excellent points. Thank you.

Let's just hope there are not too many whores out there who have the skills but not the minds.

Good gravilicious!

First it was heresy and now it's being anti-capitalistic and, by default, un-American.

The excuse given to limit the spread of information and ideas changes face occasionally, but deep down, it's still the same dirty, sadistic devil we call greed.

In-as-much as this proposed U.N. treaty would spell the end of ATS and all other public forums similar to it, as well as most blogs, in addition to what it would do to restrain criticism of politicians and governments, it would go a long way towards total control of the free exchange of ideas. We need to find out where this proposal came from originally and just who is supporting it. Once that information is known we can start flooding the offices of those people as well as the offices of other politicians with our cries of opposition. A treaty such as this must never be allowed to be implemented--EVER.

sad part is how much Microsoft and Yahoo are trying to push it through. The UN members of WIPO are most likely paid off. I would expect this to be big thought since it could spell the end of ATS if passed.

The Union For The Public Domain

This group is organizing an effort to fight this proposed threaty.

The WIPO Broadcast Treaty
The World Intellectual Property Organisation (WIPO) is currently considering an international treaty that would extend the power that broadcasters have to control how we use and record images and sounds, including material in the public domain. This treaty will trade off the public's freedom for additional powers that the broadcasters have not demonstrated are necessary for the public good. Our position is that the treaty should be rejected.

Links to information on the draft WIPO Treaty on the Protection of Broadcasting Organisations


This may be the first time in three years (other than supporting international literacy efforts) where I might consider proposals on how ATS can organize its massive potential influence to increase awareness of this issue, and perhaps aid in the rejection of the treaty.