I am issuing a challenge

To all those who believe the Necronomican to be true, for all the arcane experts and practitioners, to anyone on this sight believing in the lines of lost arts and magic:

I do hereby challange any and all to try an astral or magical assault upon myself, from any direction or means. The performance can be as a single person or a group ritual.

I am doing this not for publicity, or to say "I'm above the rest". I am doing this to put down some claims and ideas, and responding to email recieved by me (I have not "ignored" those few, nor have I "complained"... what happens... happens).

I am just tired of nonsense spewed from a few, and wish to openly declare this challenge. It'll help some prove theories, it'll help others in their abilities... it'll even help me, along the way.

If anyone needs more information about me (pictures for rituals, whatever), please feel free to contact me. I am always willing to help in these manners.

Its your funeral

Not exactly bravery, more like stupidity.

A good general can pick and choose his battles...

and one never calls for war without the means to win...

Bravado? A death-wise? Neither of those... just a means to an end.

Bravo!

I would also add that anyone who takes you up on this challenge should declare their intent first. That way they could not simply wait for something bad to happen to you and then take credit for it.

But then where would the element of surprise be?

I would rather be taken off-guard, and develope from there... if anything, once the challenge has been taken (by any number of people), the two teams can give updates... I usually only come online on Sunday days, Monday afternoon/evening, Wednesday afternoon/evenings, and some Fridays. Any deviation from my part could be a hint of something ill.

But I do see what you mean... simply saying HA! You got a flat tire! will simply not work...

[Edited on 17-10-2003 by soothsayer]

Also, if needed, I'll descibe/ email an illustration of my astral self, describe the best I can my energy patterns, etcetera. I'll make this as easy as I can...

Trust me

Certainly defeating the enemy while playing by the enemies rules is a greater victory than defeating the enemy by playing fair. I'd wish you luck, but you don't need it.

I Myself have studied and have backgrounds in the arcane, but I am afriad I cannot help you, as attacking people astrally, nor playing with silly demonic magics have never been my selling points. Besides, I dont think i am adept enough to perform something that huge.

However hats off to you, I can look around and ask some friends of mine if they would if you like, certainly one of them might take you up on the offer. I thinks it great you are doing this, to once and for all show just what a silly bunch of crap the necronomicon and the mad arab are!

But they can't be mentioned, or else they wouldn't be hidden, right?

Besides, this will be a great way to grow... and learn... about oneself!

Yikes, I for one wouldnt mess around asking for such a request like that! I dare not be that brave. Although if anyone is capable, and wishes to do so, you could send some good luck my way... I could use it for a change.

I thank you ahead of time... please ask around. The people partaking in the challenge needn't be from ATS, although it would be easier for them to post experiences, visuals, whatever (unless a member wishes to be the "voice").

I'm pretty much game for anything; it doesn't have to be from the Necronomican... just when the poster preforms something, it would be nice for prosperities sake if they would tell what method they are using; this way all of us can see what works better then others, if it works at all...

But, now that I think about it, that would kind of dampen the whole "taken by surprize" aspect, wouldn't it? Any thoughts would be appreciated...

Originally posted by soothsayer
To all those who believe the Necronomican to be true, for all the arcane experts and practitioners, to anyone on this sight believing in the lines of lost arts and magic:

I do hereby challange any and all to try an astral or magical assault upon myself, from any direction or means. The performance can be as a single person or a group ritual.

I am doing this not for publicity, or to say "I'm above the rest". I am doing this to put down some claims and ideas, and responding to email recieved by me (I have not "ignored" those few, nor have I "complained"... what happens... happens).

I am just tired of nonsense spewed from a few, and wish to openly declare this challenge. It'll help some prove theories, it'll help others in their abilities... it'll even help me, along the way.

If anyone needs more information about me (pictures for rituals, whatever), please feel free to contact me. I am always willing to help in these manners.

I'm with you, let 'em try it, nothing will happen. Magic isn't real! Astral projection isn't real! Santa Clause isn't real! Sorry guys, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Originally posted by NotTooHappy
I'm with you, let 'em try it, nothing will happen. Magic isn't real! Astral projection isn't real! Santa Clause isn't real! Sorry guys, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Magick is real.
Astral projection is real.
Santa Claus is a story based on a man who was real.
The Necronomicon is real, but only in the same way that saying Candyman 5 times in the mirror will bring the Candyman to kill you is real. It's based on a work of fiction.

OOO EEEE OOO AAAA AAAA TING TANG WALLA WALLA BING BANG Did it work??

Actually, I do believe in magic, astral projection, energy leeches and the ability to use one's energy against him... among other things...

I am doing this challenge for two main reasons:

The AVON Publication of the Necronomican is false... certianly there are much older tomes that can relate to it, but by and large, this modern version is false, it simply will not work... at least, not as intended...

The second reason is a hidden one. Sorry.

can someone explain to me what arcane is?? is it a type of magic or something???

not being mundane...

To me, anything that goes into a spiritual/magical belief/phenomenon is arcane... stuff normal "mundane" people don't want to believe...

Webster defines arcanum as "a secret, mystery"...

soothsayer, you should not encourage practice of the "dark arts".
Yes, I have done this crap before, back in the day, however, it's foolish, it works for the wrong reasons...

I wasted about three years of my life seeking "power", then I woke up.
I could walk on fire, control fire, lift cars, break trees, talk animals to death and speaking with demons and angels.
I would've gone to hell, because I didn't know Christ. It wasn't worth it.

However, I realized it was all the work of demons, and demons are bad.
You should not participate in such activities.
Truly, would you rather have 200 years of "powerful" life on Earth, or an eternity of "perfection" in heaven?

I know where my choices lie, I've turned away from evil and left it behind.
You should too,
- Tass

Originally posted by �any
Magick is real.
Astral projection is real.
Santa Claus is a story based on a man who was real.
The Necronomicon is real, but only in the same way that saying Candyman 5 times in the mirror will bring the Candyman to kill you is real. It's based on a work of fiction.

Like David Blaine magic or Merlin magic. Illusions are real, actual "Magic" is not.

I've always believed fight fire with fire... to defeat your enemy, you must become as your enemy... that you must become more than your enemy...

I am not evil, but neither am I good... I walk along the path of shadows, knowing that neither can exist without the other. The things I do, the things I have seen... I am a watcher/guardian/protector... preventing certian things from crossing over.

I know what I am, and what I do... I wouldn't call it evil. I just use the tactics and styles of my enemies... fight fire with fire. My enemies... have a disturbing respect for me... to defeat the enemy, become the enemy. There is more, put for a later time!