Moussaoui gets life

A federal jury rejected the death penalty for al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui on Wednesday and decided he must spend life in prison for his role in the deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. history. After seven days of deliberation, the nine men and three women rebuffed the government's appeal for death for the only person charged in this country in the four suicide jetliner hijackings that killed nearly 3,000 people on Sept. 11, 2001. Three jurors said Moussaoui had only limited knowledge of the Sept. 11 plot and three described his role in the attacks as minor, if he had any role at all. Moussaoui, as he was led from the courtroom after the 15-minute hearing, said: "America, you lost. ... I won." He clapped his hands as he was escorted away.




Well now that is over and I am glad for it. From what I have observed, Moussaoui is either a fall guy or a loon, but I just can't credit him with what he has claimed. I figure either he is a terrorist wannabe or a setup. He is just too much of a lose cannon to have been trusted with what he claims his role was to be. I suggest that he was an Al Qeada reject or hanger-on, got wind of what was happening and just kinda inserted himself into the conspirecy. If he had any support from the Al Qeada leadership it was probably to string him along just to get rid of him. There is just too much that is unknown and/or questionable to warrant the death penalty.

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[edit on 3-5-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

My feeling this entire time.A fall guy knowingly or not, he will fall out of the spot light and probably disappear.Will he spend life in prison, maybe, maybe not.Where are you going to keep a guy who conspired 9/11 ? Thats like sending a child molester into the general public in jail...he will be dead within days.

snip............ spare the life of the only person to stand trial in the United States for the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Thats just crazy.......

its my understanding that the jury had to be unamious for the death penalty

a hung jury would make Moussaoui eligible for re-trial at best/ or life-in-prison as the default sentence.

i'm so glad the jury wasn't so under the influence of 'the state' to legally murder the man

there are small victories, even as we're engaged in the War-On-Terrorism

I don't know what victory you are talking about. I'm just concerned about the added cost of keeping this man alive at taxpayers expense.

As somebody else said, he might not last that long in a prison, or if he does, his life there can be rather unpleasant.

>idontknow "Thats like sending a child molester into the general public in jail...he will be dead within days."

I Agree.

If the news reports are correct he will not be dead in days.

They stated he will be kept confined in his own cell w/o TV and newspapers and some other things (I forgot what they are now sorry). He will be let out of his cell only once a day for one hour, where he can exercise (even that will be in a spcial area) then it is back to his cell. He will also be served his meals in his cell.

It sort of looks like he will actually get specialized treatment to make sure he does not die, although I wish he would have gotten death.

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I wanted the death penalty here. But I know personally that the worst thing you could do to me would be to lock me away for life. I'd be always looking for a way to put myself out of my own misery.

:shk:

Very short sighted. You have no idea what this guy's in for. I knew an inmate that had done 15 years in Seg and after he was serving a lesser sentance. He was a helluva worker but when there was some down time he paced, constantly. That's what he did when serving his federal term. Trust me, this guy is going to suffer much more this way than by being offed.

Personally I was for Death for the Guy BUT him rotting in Federal prison Dishonors him and makes him look like a PUNK to the Muslim Community instead of a martyr

is this guy going to a "special prison," maybe one for famous people???

if not, how long do you think he will last in prison???

this could definitely be a problem...

The rest of his life behind walls and bars at a SUPER MAX Prison.
No Human Contact. EVER! (other than Prison Guards).
1 Hour a day outside his cell in the prison yard.
The only thing he will ever see are walls, bars, doors and the sky.
2 showers a week.
He will disappear and no one will ever hear a word from his accursed lips again.
3 Meals a day.
His bed will be on concrete, not metal.
His cell will be an 8 X 12 foot room with a toilet, bed and nothing else..
No TV. No books. No radio. No Computer.
This guy wanted Martyrdom.
He isn't going to get it.
He's going to rot in Prison and he willo rot in HELL after he dies in agonies and torments known and unknown to man for all eternity.



[edit on 3-5-2006 by Truth_Hunter_1976]

Originally posted by Truth_Hunter_1976
here is what the guy has to look forward to:

excuse me???

anyway, where does it say all of this information???




[edit on 3-5-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Watching the news, it was said that he was going to prison in Colorado. They didn't name a city. The Federal Supermax in Florence, CO. maybe?

en.wikipedia.org...:Federal_Supermax_Prisoners_at_Florence,_Colorado

Best to not make a martyr of the guy. He's harmless in Jail, he can be exceeding dangerous dead, as paradoxically as that sounds.

Originally posted by Truth_Hunter_1976
He's going to rot in Prison and he willo rot in HELL after he dies in agonies and torments known and unknown to man for all eternity.

According to his beliefs he's going to heaven when he dies.. But that would make a BTS thread about who goes where after they die.

And personally I don't know what to make of the whole situation, because I didn't follow the trial.

[edit on 3-5-2006 by TheBandit795]

VIII Amendment To U.S. Constitution: " . . nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

posted by Truth_Hunter_1976:

“The rest of his life behind walls and bars at a SUPER MAX Prison. No Human Contact. EVER! other than Prison Guards. 1 Hour a day outside his cell in the prison yard. The only thing he will ever see are walls, bars, doors and the sky. 2 showers a week. 3 Meals a day. His bed will be on concrete, not metal. His cell will be an 8 X 12 foot room with a toilet, bed and nothing else.. No TV. No books. No radio. No Computer. This guy wanted Martyrdom. He isn't going to get it. He's going to rot in Prison and he will rot in HELL after he dies in agonies and torments known and unknown to man for all eternity.

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Any nation that calls itself civilized that would even consider operating such a place as you’ve described is capable of anything, say, like Guantanamo Bay or Abu Ghraib. Hmm?

Secret prison. Rendition. Torture. Barbarism. Etc. Geo W is this your L E G A C Y?

Is it any wonder the Human Rights Watch has America on its list? Or than Amnesty International regularly sends out the prisoner of conscience list to include many in American jails? Do you understand why Geo W will not sign the International Law Court Treaty to try human rights violators at The Hague?

I’m saddened, disappointed and ashamed to be living in a country that seems to consent to such barbaric conduct more worthy of Attila the Hun!


[edit on 5/3/2006 by donwhite]

Originally posted by donwhite
T/W, does your health care policy provide for mental health care?

Do you think you could have made your point without this? This is the News Network, not open mike night at Yuk Yuk's.

Originally posted by donwhite
I’m saddened, disappointed and ashamed to be living in a country that seems to consent to such barbaric conduct more worthy of Atilla the Hun!

Heck, living in a world where maniacs plunge planes into large populated buildings is not easy, nobody promised you that.

Solitary confinement may seem barbaric to you. I'd be sort of dissapointed though, if this guy, a condemned terrorist, got a place with a nice couch, a plasma TV, a waterpipe (popular in North Africa and Middle East), a kitchenette stocked with cous cous and dried figs, and a meeting place where imprisoned jihadists can socialize and discuss the intricacies of the Quran and how to interpret it in a way that encourages beheadings of the Americans. There is just something wrong with this picture.

I imagine that after a while in confinement he been of dubious mental health. . .probably will become to dangerous to himself.

I expect him to transfered to a mental institution no to far in the future.

He was nothing more than the fall guy and the only one to pay for the 9/11 tragedy.

Originally posted by donwhite
VIII Amendment To U.S. Constitution: " . . nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

Please define cruel and unusual punishment for a admitted terrorist. For crying out loud! This SOB was overjoyed at the pain inflicted on the families of 9-11 survivors and he was scheduled to fly a plane into a building on American soil!

I’m saddened, disappointed and ashamed to be living in a country that seems to consent to such barbaric conduct more worthy of Attila the Hun!

The government of the United States isn't holding you against your will, so you may leave anytime now! Bye!

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