On TV Now..Anyone Interested

On now channel #268 The Biography Channel, a show about The Skull And Bones and Masonry in general. Know its a bit late, has about 45 minutes to go, but just thought some might be interested. Very secrective and strange secret society.

Hey GameSetMatch, if youre out there I know you have an interest, anything new on the stramge symbols on the doors of the place? Really am still curios about finding out what they meant.

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Wohoo! Nice alert! Its called
"The Unexplained: "Secret Socieites" Freemasons; re-creation of a Skull and Bones initiation rite at Yale"

Right now they are talking about an investigation in England, some fraud investigation. Has an author "Martin Short" claiming that the masons who were police were working with other masons to protect one another's criminal activities.

[edit on 2-5-2006 by Nygdan]

Yeah Nygdan, I sort of figured, I see a lot of people asking about things such as Masons, Skull And Bones, and here was an opportunity to have some of their questions answered or at least supply some info for them.

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Below is a link for anyone who might be interested in people who have made up the membership of this secret society.

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

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They're in The Tomb now...

edit to add:
They're re-created the initiation ritual:

This is what they did for the ritual:

Pretap Night is an event before the Tapping of new candidates
Taken from bed to candlelight room,
Box with names and numbers of people that can answers questions about org shown
Candles blown out
Candidate rushed out. Presumably they take that box with contact information and can ask questions. Are told, however, to not tell anyone that they have the box.
1 month later, tap night.

Someone shows up at their dorm room. The Candidate is asked "Skull and bones accept or reject"
If accept, taken to initiation. Another person says they are just told 'follow me', so that might be variable.

Might have to chase initiator, might be passed to many people. Seems that part is variable.

I don't know if the S&B calls it this, but the person bringing you to an initiation, at least in teh greek mysteries, is called a "Mystagouge", teacher of mystery.

Get blindfolded, spun, lead off, to The Tomb.

Person in coffin, candles, skull, at least called Gernonimo;s. Taken to "Room 322", which is decorated with velvet. Spun til dizzy. Then unblindfolded. Generations of bonesmen are there. They sing songs written about the fraternity.

Thats where they stop.


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Now told the following:

No times peices allowed.

No TV or radio.

Drinking alcohol is not permited.

Secret names used, many from the novel "Trystan and Shandy" or some such.

Members have strong feelings of trust, and tell their life stories, details not normally given.

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Ah I learned something new, they now allow women to be tapped for membership in the society, this since 1991. I dont know whether or not there are any boneswomen yet, they did not say. maybe someone out there has an update on this.
The whole procedure was somewhat different than what has been shown in the motion picture series of Skull And Bones.

The novel, I think, is The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gent. (1759-67) by Laurence Sterne. The link is to an online version with original illustrations by Hogarth. Do you know what the names were?

The bones, from what I've read, are indeed Geronimo's. Prescott Bush and some cronies went and dug them up out of Geronimo's grave, from what I remember, and this misdeed was covered up, although they couldn't help gloating about it.

They didn't mention any specific names, just that sometimes they are from the book.

On geronimo, the person noting that said 'Lets say you go into a room, lets say there are candles, lets say there's some bones there, Lets say they are geronimos". Not sure the precise context as to why he'd say it like that.


Also, its possible that they have a tradition of them being geronimo's bones, but that they are not, or even that that conspiracy theory worked its way into their own folklore, and they picked it up, which would be interesting.


Seems like you could get a legal justification to raid The Tomb if there are human remains held there, which would be illegal, or at least against zoning and health regulations no?

WHere'd you hear of the book??

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Why do such interesting shows have to always end so quickly? Guess maybe they just dont have enough information to offer.
Yes Rich, Ive also read pretty convincing accounts that the skull does indeed belong to Geronimo. What bad people they are, no respect for the dead, they should most definetly be prosecuted for that if it could ever be proven, the audacity of the Bush family to do something like that.

The book is kind of a classic. People were reading it when I was at school. It's actually renowned for being "18th century post-modern" because it plays with conventions of narrative and typography. Mostly, even today, I find it almost unreadable, though it has a drollness I like.

It was also recently adapted for the screen as "A Cock And Bull Story". Not a hit, sadly, as it has some UK comedians I like in it and the conceit of making a film-within-a-film is right in line with the book's ideas.

And tracer... my suspicion is that what gets on TV is only the tip of the iceberg. Check out the Disclosure Project's experience of a network documentary team's "in depth coverage".

And
here is a link to the Prescott Bush story. From The Yale Herald, no less.

The Martin Short book is an excellent expose' on freemasonry. I have it and am working my way though it. It is an exhaustive read. If anybody wants details on it just send me a message and I can post specifics on the title and publisher etc.

I'm sure that you can find it on Amazon too.

Again anybody wanting a good read on Freemasons should pick it up.

oH and I saw that special it was good work and quite enjoyed it.