Airing now on Dutch national TV: JFK evidence special

Just started on SBS6 (20:30 local time) a two and a half hour special on the JFK murder with some new evidence by the Dutch award winning Crime Journalist Peter R. de Vries.

Appearantly he has found someone willing to testify who was one of the shooters, a former contractor for the C.I.A. How credible this witness is, I do not know.

He has spent several weeks in Dallas with his crew after doing research over several years to shoot this documentary.

SBS6 is one of the biggest commercial networks in the Netherlands.

I´ll add to this thread if I have more info.

Link (in dutch only sorry)

sbs6.sbs.nl...

[edit on 2-5-2006 by HardToGet]

I have just translated the SBS6 info on the report:

Peter R. de Vries and the murder of JFK

In a more than two and a half hour special - made in Dallas - Peter R. de Vries makes an attempt to shed new light on the most famous of all murder cases: the murder of John F. Kennedy on november 22, 1963. Almost fourty years later Peter R. de Vries tries to answer the question that hundreds of millions have asked themselves: was Lee Harvey Oswald the sole assassin, or was there a conspiracy? Peter R. de Vries, international crime reporter can be seen may 2nd from 20:30 to 23:50 interrupted only by a 20 minute newsbreak.

In the report Peter shows that many conclusions and findings of the Warren Commission are no longer valid. The special has been made in conjunction with the dutch Kennedy-expert and former businessman Wim Dankbaar, who has been investigating the Kennedy assassination for more than 10 years now.

After a long period of research, Peter and his crew went to Dallas for two weeks last februari to shoot, and have spoken to many of the people involved still alive today, like former CIA- and FBI-agents, but also with the ex-girlfriend of Oswald, and a number of surviving eye-witnesses. The result is the longest broadcast ever in the history of PRdV specials which contains new, never before shown footage and a remarkable interview with an individual who claims to have been closely involved with the Kennedy hit. According to this individual the assassination was a joint operation by the CIA as well as organised crime groups (mafia), who both benefited from Kennedy´s death.

Peter R. de Vries: "At face value it sounds incredible that we have found someone who confesses to the murder, I was very skeptical at first. But during our research we discovered that this witness is not just a dilusional who claims he has killed JFK. On the contrary, he has knows remarkable details with references to other individuals and places which match entirely the stories of other independent witnesses. His story would require a federal investigation to prove, but the Federal Government of the U.S. doesn´t seem willing to cooperate at this time. One of the reasons for that might be the fact that there have been too many JFK theories and scenarios brought under the attention of federal investigators over the years.

About his stay in Dallas Peter mentions: "To me as a plain dutch reporter it was quite a unique experience to create a report from these historic places – Dealey Plaza, the Grassy Knoll, the Texas book depository. This is a case where hundreds of Americans have gone the distance to investigate, so I do realise that it is rather presumptious to declare one has found something new. Still I declare we did find new evidence. It is a powerful report which will open a lot of viewer´s eyes."

[edit on 2-5-2006 by HardToGet]

Men this sucks dude..
I tryed my best to make a thread and then it get closed caus you get it 21 minuts for me !
Men this is totally !!!

[edit on 2-5-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

That´s the worse of coincedences and bad luck, my dish lost about four channels, including SBS6, argh!

No, I do not think it is a conspiracy to stop the broadcast of this program.

Originally posted by 1337nessCas
I tryed my best to make a thread and then it get closed caus you get it 21 minuts for me !

Don´t feel bad!

At least you can still watch the broadcast right? I cannot watch RTL4,5,SBS6 and Talpa anymore since five minutes. I must remark I am living in Spain and watching using a satellite with a hacked decoder, but still...

Its just unfair that my thread just get closed in a few seconds i had made with word a hole conclusion and stuff ! and then i cant post it .. ! WTF is this for bull# men !! I cant take it when i make something thats useless after all !

Time Waits For No One

Originally posted by 1337nessCas
I tryed my best to make a thread and then it get closed caus you get it 21 minuts for me !

Think of it like Counterstrike: whoever shoots first wins.

WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IF YOU MAKED A HOLE CONCLUSIE AND # ON THE PC AND WANNA POST IT AND GET CLOSED A FEW SECONDS LATER !?

Hey man, your info is never lost, your thread is still there for all to see for all eternity! (Well as long as the archives are up that is)

Happened to me a couple of times too. Cheer

Oke Oke..
but i cant reply anymore at my thread so..
But i had information in word translated that i wanna post later when the show of Peter R de vries where done so i could change details on it if i had to..
It was for nothing.. it all was useless
I will hang out by your thread maybe i can at any information by a reply here


Anyway its oke now..

Friendly Fire OFF

Originally posted by 1337nessCas
WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IF YOU MAKED A HOLE CONCLUSIE AND # ON THE PC AND WANNA POST IT AND GET CLOSED A FEW SECONDS LATER !?

It happens. When multiple threads are started on a specific topic, the staff may choose to close all but one to avoid having several fractured discussions occurring at once.

I have done this in this case. If you disagree with my decision, please use the Suggestion button to submit a complaint, which will be reviewed by the senior staff.

Please do NOT post off-topic rants to this thread.

The topic is the JFK Assassination and its portrayal on Dutch TV.

Let's try to stay on target.



Also, please check your keyboard:




Edit: From your post above, it looks like you beat me by two minutes.

Now, back to JFK.

[edit on 5/2/2006 by Majic]

Originally posted by 1337nessCas
But i had information in word translated that i wanna post later when the show of Peter R de vries where done so i could change details on it if i had to..

It was for nothing.. it all was useless

No, no, please post your findings here 1337nessCas, everyone will like to know your findings on the show, I cannot see it right now and have to wait until it is archived to watch it online.

Please post your translations if you have them, looking forward to that.

Oké i have im watching the show now.. and any info i can find at the show i will post it here !
Lets work here together on this project?
Could be nice dude

Originally posted by 1337nessCas
Lets work here together on this project?

You bet! Would love to know what you think of the report... (Still half an hour to go...)

The witness is James Files, a hitman and CIA-contractor turned religious and well known. Not succesfully debunked yet, which makes it interesting. The more so because of the major debunking attempts and who tried to debunk him.

Files is one of three men who confessed.

Check out pretty good site www.jfkmurdersolved.com...

Contains a Files private document linking CIA to mob.... Hmm.

So nothing spectacular was revealed I presume, Cas?

[edit on 2-5-2006 by HardToGet]

There is much more to this.

Found the website of Wim Dankbaar and man-o-man.

I will compile something on Wim Dankbaar and post later. For one thing, an FBI document by J. Edgar Hoover dated 11/29/63 and declassified by accident in 1988 proves without a doubt that George Bush (dad) was on the CIA payroll back in ´63, ten years before he became Director there. He always denied this, even under oath!

This is nothing new, but important in this context of the report. English site about this proof here:

inquirer.gn.apc.org...

This document was a memo to the Director of the Bureau of Intelligence and Research and to the Department of State. It was about the fact that the FBI stated that the Anti-Castro movement are not a suspect in the JFK hit, they (Anti-Castro Cuban movement) were "stunned in disbelief" and "feel that the death of JFK is a great loss".

Nice piece of propaganda there. The document (authenticated) ends with the following sentence:

"The substance of the forgoing information was orally furnished to George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defence Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963 by Mr. W.T. Forsyth of this Bureau."

*BUZZZZ* -HTG for two points- That looks like evidence to me... CORRECT! *ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding*

Document itself here:

source

The rest of the presentation is in Dutch, haven´t found an english version yet.

It is a lot of text to translate but for those who understand Dutch, go here: www.jfkmurdersolved.com...
From a november 2005 presentation in Amsterdam

If anyone can find this in English, please post link. Otherwise I will translate it myself and post the text somewhere on a server.

man-o-man-o-man those Bushes.... This is the first time I am willing to believe a CIA/mob connection as truth and why and how JFK was murdered.

George Bush worked for the CIA in ´63. This is your first clue.

Stay tuned...

EDIT: Yes, I got confused, Prescott Bush funded the Nixon campaign among other things...

[edit on 2-5-2006 by HardToGet]

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[edit on 2-5-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Not surprising that James Files would turn up in this story! I saw a lengthy interview he gave while in prison. At the time, I was amazed and decided the story was too far-fetched. But, other sources make his account somewhat credible.

I hope you can tell us about the show as it may never see the light of day in the US

Some info on Files:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
(use james files as your search)

Btw... Peter R De Vries is the best Dutch investigative reporter there is. He hosts a show that is similar to America's Most Wanted, and his investigations have helped to solve tons of criminal cases in the Netherlands..

Yes ToHardToGet.. i didnt see much proof and stuff on the documentairi but maybe we can find that on the web.. maybe the sound recording of the shots.. maybe if we can find that and postit here so the other can here that there were 4 shots not 3 .. maybe there were 5 ..

Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
I hope you can tell us about the show as it may never see the light of day in the US

I´m on it, translating the Dankbaar presentation, the one that the whole report was based on. He´s written a book too, not for the money (as he is a multi-millionaire) but for justice. Then will upload for all. A lot of words, names, documents and pictures though, this will probably be in the order of a 1,8MB PDF file when I´m through, suggestions where to store it welcome.

Dude, did your Avatar get hacked BTW?