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Originally posted by Tony_Poremba Also another concept is fairly simple. In all deductable logic every space must contain a space. And that space must conatain a space. For example IF our universe is finite and is contained.. what conatains it? ANd Would whatever conatained our universe also contain a space?
This simple and toally unfallible logic dictates that Space is indeed infinite.
Originally posted by Tony_Poremba
As we all know , everything is based upon cause and effect... there is no Causeless cause and no causeless effect. THerefore their cannot be an cause that bears no effect without a previous cause setting it in motion... ad infinitum.
Originally posted by Tony_Poremba
Your energy has to go through states to produce the "Effect you speak of///.. Reagrdless of the Line of thought.. Everything must have a cause... Or no effect would ever be produced.. really simple. And yes it is simple.
And it IS proven that time is linear.. Only perception and the way matter reacts differs.. Again read up. The rest is mere speculation with no reproducable effects,,, or actually not the intial effect in the first place. More imaginative thinking than anything else.
[edit on 1-5-2006 by Tony_Poremba]
Originally posted by Tony_Poremba
ACtually ... Half an Infinity cannot exist... However I may be inclined to agree two infinties... IN different states can exist. All reliant on Cause and effect of course.
Drawing a dot on an infinite line wouldn't creat two infinties... it would create a finite dot on an infinite line in an infinite space.
Originally posted by Tony_Poremba
Ummm.... u made no sense. Sorry.
Originally posted by Tony_Poremba
Actuall that claim has no basis.... I am arguing your theories with pure, proven logic. Not comeing to hair brained conclusions based on nothingness as your example asserts.
"The theory of relativity says that time cannot be treated absolutely separately from space, only in one observer's relative view. So space and time together describe a four dimensional universe."
Originally posted by Tony_Poremba
They do it based on cause and effect... As does relativity.