France is under Sharia law

France is under Sharia law. It has proven this by urging the World Bank to continue aiding Palestine financially despite the fact that a terrorist organisation has won the Palestinian elections.

Reference: news.bbc.co.uk...

Don't be silly.

A refusal to accept the US/Israeli 'line' in this is just that, it has nothing to do with absurd notions of them being "under Sharia law".

I suppose you are going to claim Russia is too seeing as they have tried to help this Palestinian funding crisis?

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Don't be silly.

A refusal to accept the US/Israeli policy towards Muslims in this is just that, it has nothing to do with absurd notions of them being "under Sharia law".

This wasn't "A refusal to accept the US/Israeli policy towards Muslims", this was financial aid for the Hamas terrorist organisation. If France wasn't under Sharia law, it wouldn't financially aid the Hamas terrorist organisation.

[edit on 4-5-2006 by Zibi]

funny, my sons was just in france...he didn't mention anything about them beating the french girls for making too much noise while they walked....or mention any stonings or anything like that....are you sure about this???

I don't see the relation between them giving aid to the palestinians and them being under a Islamic legal system. and if this was the case, I would venture to guess that most of the developed nations would have to be considered under Islamic laws, even the US. since saudi arabia is one of the biggest supporter of terrorism, and they get alot of support from us.

my son did have a very unnerving experience in France though and I find myself wondering if crap like this didn't help produce that experience. more anti-france rhetoric that will only serve to cause the rest of the world to dislike us more...

they're soveriegn countries, with the right to make their own decisions when it comes to their policies....they chose to support the palestian people instead of risking them starving to death or whatever...live with it...unless of course, you are willing to risk the US or any other county losing thier right to soveriegnty.

Originally posted by Zibi
this was financial aid for the Hamas terrorist organisation.

- It is financial aid to the newly elected Palestinain state government, which happens to now be run by Hamas after their recent electoral success.

Which is nothing like the same thing as you claim.

If France wasn't under Sharia law, it wouldn't financially aid the Hamas terrorist organisation.

- France is actually under 'Napoleonic' law.

Wise up.

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
It was financial aid to the newly elected Palestinain state government, which is now run by Hamas after their recent electoral victory.

Yes, the Hamas terrorist organisation which is responsible for the death of 600 Israelis.

[edit on 6-5-2006 by Zibi]

France is under law administered by muslim clerics and base upon the revelations in the Koran and the sayings of ensuing religious leaders? Because they don't like israel?

Odd. You'd think that they wouldnt't've outlawed the hijab, which is an essential part sharia, but I guess it must be true!

If France wasn't under Sharia law, it wouldn't financially aid the Hamas terrorist organisation.

Your "If Then" logical statement is flawed and does not follow.

[edit on 5-5-2006 by Nygdan]

I thought this was a joke, and I think your thread is very misleading.

If France were to be under Sharia law I'm sure we would have heard about this.

Canada still gives aid to the Palestinian people, just not directly through Hamas.

And we are definitely not under sharia law, never very fond of our Premier and when this issue came up I even went to Toronto and protested, and I'm not even a liberal

In my opinion it still took long for this decision

www.ctv.ca...

considering that only 7% of the french population are muslims they've done pretty well to bring in the sharia law haven't they

www.islamicweb.com... and they have got their figures from the CIA so I guess they are completely wrong

Maybe, I'm a "dumb American". What's Sharian Law?

I'm drawing blanks here, even Cartman on South Park is laughing at me.

Here you go cranefly

en.wikipedia.org...

I got this as a U2U today -

from: Zibi
sent: 6-5-2006 at 02:00 PM
"France is actually under 'Napoleonic' law.

Wise up."

Oh yeah, Napoleonic law - the law that allows unlimited arrest without being charged with a crime, denies the defendant the right to trial by jury, and forces the defendant to prove that hes innocent.

By contrast, British law guarantees British citizens the following rights:
1) The right to be released from jail 24 hours after being locked up in jail if the citizen hasnt been charged with a crime
2) Torture is forbidden
3) The right to trial by jury
4) The defendant is innocent until the prosecution can prove that hes guilty

You should be grateful to your countrys leaders that you enjoy these rights.

BTW, this British law has been imposed during the times of the Glorious Revolution (1689) - before Napoleon came to power in France (hell, before even Napoleon was born). The Napoleonic Code has been imposed in 1798, right? Stupid French - its 2006 now and they still havent imposed a just law!

- I have never put anyone on 'ignore' before here but I will not tollerate being stalked by this kind of insane - not forgetting wrong in parts actually anyway - cretinous rubbish.

Hehe, welcome to the inofficial "Zibi" fanclub. Pretty funny combination... an annoying teenage british supremacist of polish nationality with anti-french/continental sentiments and a pro-American attitude... gladly he cant read this because I´m on his ignore list, he´d get a heart attack

Anyway, to contribute to topic, "France being under Sharia Law" is a ridiculous concept from the start. First, Sharia is based on core 4 core scriptures of Islam, and neither of these, not even the Koran, is considered of any significance to the secular french state. Furthermore, Sharia law conflicts with the Universal declaration of Human rights as well as EU Charta and the European Conventions on HR, which were all co-written, signed and ratified by France, in key aspects.

The second mistake is to connect the funding for the Palestinian authorities with any kind of pro-Terrorist stance of France. France is as anti-terrorist as can be, notably because they have to live with the problem of modern terrorism since it emerged after the 2nd World War.

In reality the problem with the Palestinian authorities is that of the "Burning Art Gallery". Do you let the Gallery burn, hoping to salvage enough paintings, or do you try to put out the fire and in the wake destroy much of the artworks with the water from the fire hoses?

Of course it is not acceptable that the Hamas runs the Palestinian Autonomous government without decisive concessions... But leaving the Palestinian authorities without the previous support is a true Damoclean sword because it can destabilize the situation further.

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
I have never put anyone on 'ignore' before here but I will not tollerate being stalked by this kind of insane - not forgetting wrong in parts actually anyway - cretinous rubbish.

I have proven you wrong, so you should admit being wrong, not offend me.

[edit on 6-5-2006 by Zibi]

Thanks for the link! So that's what Sharia law is. If France were really under it, like the whole country, wouldn't it be on the news?

Anyway, I think it might just be some the Islamic communities may be rebelling possibly. Or you could just be wrong for now(no offence).

.....and the ridiculous stalking continues.
Here's another unsolicited U2U.

from: Zibi
sent: 7-5-2006 at 12:23 AM
"I have never put anyone on 'ignore' before here but I will not tollerate being stalked by this kind of insane - not forgetting wrong actually anyway - cretinous rubbish."

Wrong? Can you cite a factual error? If not, don't post such messages, then I won't be laughing at such messages.

What error? Dates are incorrect? No, they are not, read a history book. British citizen's rights are incorrect? So the Bill of Rights and the Habeas Corpus Act don't guarantee you any rights? What I've said about the Napoleonic Code is wrong? Have you read the Napoleonic Code?

Next time you reply to my post, make sure that you can prove me wrong, citing errors and providing proof that I'm wrong. Otherwise, don't bother replying - I don't like reading messages like "I'm right because I am", which you post when talking to anyone who disagrees with you or proves you wrong. Oh wait, you are ignoring me? OK. I'll use these measure against you, too. Just like I did to Lonestar and Mdv2 - who are, like you, biased, America-hating Europhiles - and who, like you, haven't posted any message worth reading. Enjoy talking to these biased, childish, America-hating people.

- I'd have thought the hint would have been taken but obviously no.

OK, let's refer this to the mods then.



[edit on 6-5-2006 by sminkeypinkey]

How great ! We are under Sharia law .. I didn't even know. Thanks for the info zibi.

My turn to give you some good news: in May the french Foreign Policy Department has refused to provide with visas two Hamas representatives, Salah Muhammad al-Bardawil who's the spoke-person of the parliament group, and Mohammad al-Rantissi another Hamas member.

Moreover, it is not only France but the USA, the EU, Russia and UNO which are seeking the finance directly Palestinian people without going through Hamas government. Why ? Because there might be big probleme with medical drugs soon in Palestine.

All right ?

By the way you phrase your argument, I could respond that the U.S. is under sharia law. It's officially allied and has numerous economic ties with a state - Saudi Arabia - which practices sharia and represses the rights of its citizens, especially females.

That what i loved about Paris, the beatings, every pretty girl covered except for the eyes... The Eiffel Minaret... The Arc de Allah...

Long Live Sharia France

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
I got this as a U2U today -

from: Zibi
sent: 6-5-2006 at 02:00 PM
"France is actually under 'Napoleonic' law.

Wise up."

Oh yeah, Napoleonic law - the law that allows unlimited arrest without being charged with a crime, denies the defendant the right to trial by jury, and forces the defendant to prove that hes innocent.

By contrast, British law guarantees British citizens the following rights:
1) The right to be released from jail 24 hours after being locked up in jail if the citizen hasnt been charged with a crime
2) Torture is forbidden
3) The right to trial by jury
4) The defendant is innocent until the prosecution can prove that hes guilty

You should be grateful to your countrys leaders that you enjoy these rights.

BTW, this British law has been imposed during the times of the Glorious Revolution (1689) - before Napoleon came to power in France (hell, before even Napoleon was born). The Napoleonic Code has been imposed in 1798, right? Stupid French - its 2006 now and they still havent imposed a just law!

You need to get updated Zibi. Britain passed a law stating that a person can be locked up for 3 months, I think, (any Brits that can answer this?) before being charged with a crime.

The U.S., who's laws come from British Common law, has circumvented habeas corpus, rendering it useless; right to trial by jury doesn't mean anything because any citizen can be deemed "enemy combatant" and therefore has no right to trial by jury, and torture is hardly forbidden any more.

BTW, I'm really sick of the French-bashing. France has ALWAYS been our friend, never fought against us, and if it hadn't have been for France, we'd still be fighting the Revolutionary War and America would not exist. France has also given us manners, cuisine, romance, a love and reverance of beauty, the Louvre, truffles, champagne, great art, Abelard and Heloise, Louis Pasteur, Pierre Curie, and other great physicians/scientists and a victory at the Battle of Yorktown during the U.S. revolution - they had more troops there than America.

Viva la France!