Iran 'fails to heed nuclear call'.

Originally posted by marg6043


But when US went into Iraq they though it was going to be a piece of cake.

a piece of cake? are you sure thats not what you were shoveling into your piehole while you watched it on tv?

Originally posted by XphilesPhan

Originally posted by marg6043


But when US went into Iraq they though it was going to be a piece of cake.

a piece of cake?

are you sure thats not what you were shoveling into your piehole while you watched it on tv?

You know you are very disgusting and very nasty in your post in regard to using the English language.

I wasn't born yesterday I know exactly what you are trying to say.

I think i will ignore you for now on.

Taking out the Iraqi military was a piece of cake! Enforcing the borders set up by the UN, that's another story.

The only way to keep Sunni's, Shia, and Kurds in the same country is through absolute force ie. Saddam Hussein. It was the UN's need for nation states to deal with for oil that created the state called Iraq, out of diametrically opposed tribes.

Can't even fix their own mistakes, what a joke!

Curio:

There's a very big difference between the US getting impatient with the UN failing to act, and Iran who are actually ignoring the UN/IAEA.

Total boolsheet, sorry to call it.

WHY was the US getting impatient with the United Nations? What exactly was the huge rush to get American troops into Iraq? It was your administration pushing for the invasion, the United Nations AND the IAEA were saying that given more time, they could find out what they needed to know.

Nobody really knew what Iraq had in the way of WMD. How could they - the inspectors were never allowed to do their job properly.

Again, BS. Other countries knew, and refused to join the Coalition of the Weenies. YOUR OWN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES knew. The CIA knew.

Nobody really knew what Iraq had in the way of WMD?!

Wow, where were you when Bush Administration shills were all over the media crowing about his WMDs. When Powell was holding up the vial at the UN? When Bush was talking about UADs coming across the ocean to spray chemicals on Americans?

Where were you when the Bushies were so sure that Saddam was not only a threat but an IMMEDIATE threat requiring IMMEDIATE action?

Both action and inaction pose risks - you take your chance either way.

Military action is not "thinking action". Bullies are stupid and don't think things through until another bully comes along and slaps them around. Your country is getting furiously slapped around right now by Iran, and it is showing the world what a paper tiger the U.S. has become.

Iraq was in violation of the 1991 cease-fire agreement & 17 UN resolutions.

America showed that they had a spine.

Iraq was in violation of the 1991 cease-fire agreement & 17 UN resolutions.

America showed that they had a spine.

Ahahahaha! Turkey is in violation of far more than 17 Resolutions and you asked them to help. Heck, you BRIBED them to help!

Here's a list of all the countries currently in violation of UN Resolutions, are they all next? Drop a few megatons of freedom on them?

www.vicpeace.org...


Want to try to come up with another reason why you went to war? The "we've got spine" part is not really effective when you are talking about the world's most powerful military vs. a 3rd World country's army decimated after 12 years of sanctions.

I'll be here when you come up another "valid" reason.

-jakomo

I'm not scared of this fear mongering and am sure Iran feels much more threatened by America and Israel right now, plus all the propoganda being made against them.

[edit on 1-5-2006 by Xeros]

Was Iraq in violation on the 1991 cease-fire agreement?

[size=12]YES

ferretman:

Was Iraq in violation on the 1991 cease-fire agreement?

First off, the ceasefire resolution is conceived of as holding between Iraq and the Security Council. The Security Council would have to identify the material breach for there to be any effect: and only the parties to the agreement can invoke it.

So first, be so kind as to identify to me the “material breach” that Iraq was guilty of. Bear in mind that it has a definition in international law before you answer.

That aside, since the "ownership" of the resolutions rested with the entire 15-member Security Council and not with individual states, it's the Security Council that is party to the ceasefire, not the UK and US individually. Two signatories can’t just scream “in violation” and use it as justification to go to war... 3 years after the fact.

As for the particulars, one could argue that it is actually the US and UK who are in breach of the terms of the ceasefire - for the deadly use of force against Iraq in the so-called "no-fly zones" as well as more widespread attacks in January and June 1993, September 1996, December 1998, and a bunch of other timelines, breaching paragraphs 4 and 33 of the ceasefire resolution.

Also, the US has ADMITTED to corrupting UNSCOM with spies. So there goes that justification too, sorry. Also, Saddam did not kick them out, they left at the behest of the UN because they didn’t want their inspectors getting killed by US bombs.

So, any other justifications you can think of that they never even thought of 3 years ago when the bill of goods for this war was sold?

Thanks for the link, Jakomo.

Look who has a TON of UN violations! That cesspool Israel. Don't count on them being invaded anytime soon, though...

Originally posted by ferretman2
Iraq was in violation of the 1991 cease-fire agreement & 17 UN resolutions.

Israel is in violation of around 60 UN resolutions.

Shall we invade them next? They have nukes, oppress peoples within their conquering borders.

Originally posted by ferretman2
America showed that they had a spine.

America showed it had a greed for oil, and geopolitical positioning.

Originally posted by Jakomo

www.vicpeace.org...

Wow all those Reiterations and still nothing improves. I guess they really are ineffectual. Why do they even bother making all those resolutions if they won't even enforce it. No wonder why so many people actually believe some of the countries on that list are so innocent when in reality they are not. Thats a shame.


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