Math Time!

Wow, Benjj!

I have a Ford F-250 V10 truck to drive that I used for business before I became disabled. It has a 35 gallon tank on it, and with current gas prices at $2.99/gal, it costs me $105 to fill it up.

I don't do it often.

I feel your pain! *smiles in laughter*

JDub

I have some sympathy for you guys in the States, but here in the UK we are paying £1 per litre (approx $1.73) and at 4.55l per gallon, that takes a gallon of fuel at the pump to an astronomical $7.87.

I recently down-sized from a 25MPG car to a more forgiving 60MPG just to compensate for the prices here in the UK, but then again we've always ripped off via taxes at the pumps by our government.

Unfortunately I don't see things getting any better real soon.

Best Wishes

J

Originally posted by Crakeur
on the topic of gas prices crushing the end user, CNN had a story about California Tow Trucks being beseiged with motorists with empty tanks. Seems they will give you a free gallon of gas to get you to the station so people are running their tanks dry and calling for their free gallon.

the american way. use it all up and then kill hours waiting for a truck to give you one gallon of gas.

Cracker,

Thats not the American way, no need to comment with the intent to insult. Thats a handfull of people, not a representation of the entire country.

Originally posted by chissler
I can understand the reduced rate but how about figuring out how to limit the consumption? We are on the brink of a worldwide shortage, maybe if the countries (Canada included) would try to cut back on what we are wasting, maybe we would not be in the predicament we are in.

Oh, I agree with this whole-heartedly!

In another thread I posted in yesterday or the day before, I stated that I have neighbors that live down 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile lanes from the road. They drive their cars to the mailbox everyday to pick up the mail instead of waiting until they are leaving or coming home to get it. Those same neighbors don't like leaving out-going mail in their mailbox so they drive 3 miles into town to drop it off at the post office.

I know other parents in the nearby town that drive two blocks to take their child(ren) to school and pick them up everyday. The school discharges the kids at 2:30 everyday but there are parents lined up in the driveway of the school starting about 2:10 that sit and let their cars idle for the heat or A/C, or just sitting and listening to the radio.

Correcting those examples won't save a huge amount of gas/oil, but surely it has to add up over time.

The wife and I have, in the last year, started consolidating trips into town to pick up groceries or supplies. If we are out of milk - too bad, we' re not going to town for another two days so that we can consolidate trips.

We are trying to do our part.

JDub

Originally posted by skippytjc

Cracker,

Thats not the American way, no need to comment with the intent to insult. Thats a handfull of people, not a representation of the entire country.

Exactly.

Originally posted by skippytjc
Ill have to summarize the math for you as you apparently cant follow along:

Now lets try to imply that on all posts you make.



Blue...

It is the same as tossing your loose change into a jar. Everylittle bit counts and over time it is amazing how much actually can be saved. I once saved pennies when I was in high school for a few months and I think I came up with close to $200. Now that is not going to change my life, but if everybody did that it would certainly add up quick.



[edit on 27-4-2006 by chissler]

skippy et al, I'm an american and I was mocking the concept that someone would actually sit and wait for a gallon of gas to avoid paying for that one gallon.

the truth is, the rebate, which I doubt we'll ever get, is something nobody expected and, therefore, should be accepted with a bit of gratitude, not with a whine that it isn't enough. that, unfortunately, is becoming rather american and it is something I am embarrassed about. The gov't does not have to offer the country anything. $100 is not going to make it easier to swallow the price of gas. I'd rather see them do something to the companies that are reaping all the profits and paying out huge bonuses. I'd like to see the companies put the massive profits into use in some manner that will help the end user.

Originally posted by chissler
You can complain all you want, your still paying less than a high % of the world.

So lets do some math for Canada.

I just spent $1.20/Litre this morning for gas.

1 Gallon = 4.55 Litres

$1.20x4.55 Litres = $5.46 That I am paying for a Gallon.

The gallon you quoted here is an UK Gallon, not US gallon (which is much smaller), plus I guest you didn't convert the $CDN to $US, then:

($1.20 CDN / Litre) x ($1 US / $1.1224 CDN) x (3.785 litre / 1 gallon US) = $4.05

I also guess Math was not your strong subject ?

[edit on 27-4-2006 by PopeyeFAFL]

Originally posted by PopeyeFAFL

The gallon you quoted here is an UK Gallon, not US gallon (which is much smaller), plus I guest you didn't convert the $CDN to $US, then:

($1.20 CDN / Litre) x ($1 US / $1.1224 CDN) x (3.785 litre / 1 gallon US) = $4.05

I also guess Math was not your strong subject ?

[edit on 27-4-2006 by PopeyeFAFL]

[sarcasm]
Well god damn, I guess I should of went to those Math classes instead of skipping out. You got me on this one, I didn't convert my funds and shoot I really missed the ball on what gallon I was using.

Actually no sir, I was not an expert in Math and I applaud you for pointing this out.

Would you make fun of me if I told you I couldn't read?

Job well done sir, role model to all of us.

[/sarcasm]

Since we have discussing Fuel consumption, and the amounts we have been wasting over the years could you please explain to me how this has any relevance to what we are discussing? Yes I was off by a few cents but so what? It still proves USA is paying less money for their gas and wasting it at a higher rate than any nation.

Regardless of how bad us Canadians are at math.

[edit on 27-4-2006 by chissler]

$100 credit... What a joke!

We as tax payers (except of course the illegals from south of the border) have already paid this money to the government through our taxes. They will be giving us $100 of our own money back and not penzlizing the oil companies at all. They get to still keep all of their profits which they made off of us by jacking up the price of gas. Not only that, but if this goes through, big oil will also get rewarded by being able to drill Alaska.

F'n keep it. I'm sick of the unbreakable bond between the government and corporations. This system is wrong and needs fixing... soon. The average guy just keeps getting screwed.

I wonder if the illegals will get a check also… it wouldn’t surprise me.

I'm wondering if this is similar to the "rebate" we received a few years back of $300 or so which was nothing more than an advance on the following year's tax returns or loan, if you will, which was cleverly spun as a rebate. I'm guessing yes without researching further. Anyone have info on this?

You know what else, in a way, I'm somewhat glad the prices are going up. I know it's very tough on a lot of people but we need to look at alternatives. I would like nothing more than for the oil industry to dry up and all their money with it.

Also, the exchairman of Exxon that got $400M... I hope you choke on it!

I don't share your anger mecheng but I do agree with what you say. Its simply amazing how these guys who run the oil companies can sit back and gouge the common man, and profit the way they do. Sure money is a great thing to have, but would you give up your dignity to do so? I guess its a question of charachter really, personally I would not beable to sleep at night.

Does anyone remember the gas company that dropped their price significantly for one day, to compensate the average consumer. I think it was dropped to like .49/Litre for a day. Not sure when it was or where it was, but it was a gesture that is not very common with the industry.

Chissler.Did you convert your canadian dollars into USD before posting how much you pay for a litre? That also goes for anyone else that doesnt use the USD for currency.I just want to know the exact differences.Because it might seem like more.But actual be more closer to ours then you think.

Quite a revealing thread. Here is some more math.

We are the government + Every penny the government has comes from taxes + Every dollar handed out has to replaced at some point in time = Therefore this rebate will probably in actuality come from our children or grandchildren.

The reason citizens of most other countries pay more than we do is because there fuel taxes are higher than ours. + We have no control over how high taxes are in other countries. + In the end the citizens of a country determine how much in taxes they will allow their government to take from them before they rebel. = Stop whining, "we pay more than you do” is a ridiculous statement as it is admitting that you have allowed your government to overtax something critical to your economic survival. Nothing to brag about.

Conclusion: Most animosity towards US citizens, not our government, is based on pure jealousy. The most destructive of all emotions.

My Point: It would be really nice if we could get around all of these non-productive attacks on others just because we live in different countries or regions. Reminds me of the name calling between immature children.

Bread and circuses. And people are going to fall for this? I guess election season is the circus.

A tax rebate was one of Jr's first moves coming into this administration. Then again the next year (that I never did see). Helped for school clothes and holidays that first year, but this is getting old and pandering.

I thought about the kids getting rides to school too. And almost every school district I hear about is singing the blues, how are the bus companies going to keep up with this? Leaving kids back? So much for No Child Left Behind again.

They know they're hurting everyone, yet it persists...

The real question behind this is this:

Can the U.S. even afford these $100 check incentives while running a 500 billion dollar budget deficit?

It seems congress is pretty desperate. The republicans will do just about anything now to make the problem look like it's in good hands.

My avatar says it all, this morning i payed $1.43pL AUS for regular and premo was $1.53pL AUS (Toowoomba, QLD)

I'm lucky im in the top 2% richest people in the world ahahaha

Yet i still commute cause it's enviromentally freindly and cheaper. If you hate gas prices so much take the bus or the train like they do in Europe or Japan etc.

You know america is in trouble when a country like Brazil is ready to declare fuel independance and began working toward that goal in the 70's when jimmy carter gave everyone the oil scare and said there was a looming energy crisis. Well i guess he was right.

this war should be amply renamed "The Petro Wars" I am currently writing a lil something something on the issue and will probably post it up in the near future.

after reading the first page i have come to the conclusion that some of you must be minors because (and i mean no disrespect) it seems some of you realy have it made.

try living in the north east US , upstate vermont for instance like me i drive 44 miles a day to and from work. i spend about $40 a week in gas then my wife also has to get to work but she is cheaper about $20 a week thats $60 a week just in gas.
now lets go into heating it has been costing us about $250 a month for oil this winter (and this has been a warm winter). 60 x 4 = 240 + 250 = $490 a month just on fuel, my house payment with taxes and insurance included is only $570 a month.

and if you know anything about vermont you would know people dont make $20 bucks an hour up here so ya i feel i have the right to voice my opinion.
i live 1/4 mile from canada and i know you guys have been paying alot for fuel for sometime now maybe you guys should voice your opinion out loud because i have never heard you all do it and i work with 4 guys everyday from canada.

Originally posted by MadMachinisttry living in the north east US , upstate vermont for instance like me

cost of living is cheaper there than where I am (NYC) and I'm guessing the gas is too. Station closest to my apartment was selling it for $4.50 until the papers put them on the front page. Of course I don't drive to work every day but I think it is safe to assume that the increase in everything else more than bridges the gap.


As I said, the $100, which I doubt will get approval, is a gift. People should stop complaining about it. You don't see thge brits being offered a rebate, or the french or the germans or the ....nope just us.