Attempt to discredit Charlie Sheen?

Originally posted by Griff

Originally posted by BaastetNoir

I agree there ... you're right... you can remove the guilable.

The man is a known drunk, drug addcite, hooker -addict .. whatver else adcitions he has, i wouldn't be surpirsed if he did do what he is accused of.
Even if he was the Pope himself ...it wouldnt surprise me.

President Bush is a known drunk, drug addict...I don't know about hooker addict but. So, if we can vote a man in the PRESIDENCY and find him credible, why can't another man be credible just because he has the same addictions? BTW, just because you get addicted to something doesn't automatically make you an idiot. Your choices in life yes, but not your intellegence.

Im not a Bush supporter, but the fact he may of drank abit of College and used drugs before does not really make him an addict in any sence of the word. I agree with what your saying, but your first sentence takes away from the rest of it.

I thought it was known that he was in AA and all that? I thought that is why he's so "religeous" because GOD helped him with his addictions. As far as drugs, I don't think it is known for fact but many have speculated.

I find it interesting that instead of addressing what Charlie Sheen is saying, and at no moment has he ever said he is any sort of expert on the subject, but instead has pointed out other experts on the subject which calls into question the official story of 9/11, that we are addressing Charlie Sheen the person.

This seems silly, and like a way of avoiding what he is saying, by accusing him of having addictions.

Nikola Tesla was a genius, and we still use his work on alternating currents, etc., but he also claimed that he had a death laser that could destroy anyone on earth at anytime. Should we discount everything he said because he was eccentric, but likely insane?

Sylvia Plath was nuts, put in asylums, and ultimately killed herself. Does that mean we should ignore her writing and art?

I'm not saying Charlie Sheen is a genius, I'm just saying maybe we should listen to and analyze what he is saying, rather than discount it because he has a problem with alcohol, drugs, and prostitutes.

How many of you have actually listened to his interview with Alex Jones?

Originally posted by Griff


President Bush is a known drunk, drug addict...I don't know about hooker addict but. So, if we can vote a man in the PRESIDENCY and find him credible, why can't another man be credible just because he has the same addictions? BTW, just because you get addicted to something doesn't automatically make you an idiot. Your choices in life yes, but not your intellegence.

now that is just plain dirty and mean... Bush HAD drug and alcohol problems... peopl do get re-hab.. Sheen obviously DID NOT... and to actually balim his divorce and his suppose addcition to child porn as well on 9/11 ... thast behond ridiculous..

and the "choices" you make in life do show how alot about inteligence.
I never heard of a Novel Price crack addcit, but maybe i just need to get out more.

I''l go out this friday and cheat on my husband and blaim it on 9/11 conspiracies hows that ... may even snort a line or too... its all 9/11 's fault .. REALLY!

Where did I even insinuate that Sheen is blaming his problems on 9/11? That is coming from left field if anything is. BTW...once an addict...always an addict. There is a difference between recovering addicts and using addicts...I'll give you that.

I'm still confused why the hell I or anyone should listen to someone about subjects as complicated and as serious as this just because they happen to be in a few movies? The truth is there are probably more intelligent people on the street whose opinions are worth more... What makes this guy so special? It's a joke - you're all being had - can't you see that if it's anything significant, it's part of the ploy to discredit the whole thing?
I'm not sure what's funnier, some bumbling buffoon who's in it way over his depth or the people that follow him chanting like he's the latest great messiah just because he's from Hollywood..

I don't follow Sheen. You're right in saying that having him on the conspiracy side really discredits it though. But, people in Amer'ca are plain stupid as a whole (I'm American BTW). The only things they listen to are things put out by the TV. And Charlie Sheen is on TV...so he must be listened to...joke.

Urgh it's not just America, it's here in England too. I have to interact with the public regularly and it can be most depressing. Trying to get anyone even vaguely interested in this sort of thing is a joke, I even try to present them with the popular crap which I don't even believe just to get some sort of interest and they just stare back glazy eyed and shrug their shoulders saying 'well, even if it's true what can we do about it...'.
Then they'll turn over and watch, ironically, Big Brother or something equally retarded and brain numbing..
It makes you wonder if it's even worth it sometimes, they don't want saving as long as nothing affects their mundane, robotic lives.
You can show them Northwoods, Pearl Harbour, the Downing Street Memos, etc - not a blink... Just more vague stares....

The excitement here is that WE here dont get national recognition.Correct me if I am wrong, but has anyone here said what they believe about 911 either way and gotten heard by the masses?
Nobody is saying Sheen is some sort of messiah but the fact that he can be heard much louder than any of us is what makes this a big deal.He believe something is wrong with the official 9/11 story as many here so.We cant go on TV shows and say what we think.We get cut off and laughed at.Only time we can be heard is here and other boards and some radio shows.But the masses dont go there.

What Sheen is doing took balls and I applaud him.He is getting word out to the masses in shows millions watch daily.Not some show with 1000 or less.

I dont think what is being filed from his ex has anything to do with trying to dicredit him, but it might if people are thinkers on a one way street.If all people want to do is say he was a drug addict and drunk, well, so was your glorified president BUSH!!! Talk about a coke head and an alcoholic.But thats besides the point here.

Sheen did what we have wanted those who are with us, to do, stand up and shout!!
So we might be excited about him, but certainly worship him as a god.

EDIT: Spelling

[edit on 25-4-2006 by SMR]

Well I see what you mean, but I can't help thinking it would have been better off without him.... Going back to the main topic though - I can't see any attempt to discredit him, that's practically impossible. I certainly don't think anyone would even consider him a threat enough, if at all, to go to any effort on the matter.

I agree with Agent Smith on this one. Sheen definately doesn't need any help from anyone to discredit him.

I feel the same way as you.I dont think they would go about it in this way.I couldnt see them using his ex to do it.I would think they would do it another way by not letting him do these interviews again ( gov teling stations not to have him on ) and maybe issue a fasle statement from him?

Originally posted by AgentSmith
why the hell I or anyone should listen to someone about subjects as complicated and as serious as this just because they happen to be in a few movies?

Man o man that's the truth but don't let Barbara Striesand hear you!!

Here's a psycological term for ya'll ... it's called hyper-reality. Those
folks in Hollywood who think they are 'it' are in reality suffering from
hyper-reality. Babs Striesand writes very public letters to congress
telling them what to do, but at the same time she gets the leaders of
countries confused and can't even spell Iraq correctly. And yet
she expects them to do her bidding because she's a member of
Hollywood's famous and rich.

In Charlie Sheen's case it could very well be what I said - a matter of
even a blind pig being able to find an acorn once in a while.

Originally posted by Griff
President Bush is a known drunk, drug addict...

He's not a drunk. He's a recovering alcoholic who has been
sober for many years. As far as drug addict ... exactly what drug
is he addicted to?

Watching him and listening to him I suspect (but have no proof)
that he is on, or was on, tranquilizers of some sort. The kind that
are doctor prescribed. If he were on coke, his actions would have
been much different these past few years. He isn't displaying
coke symptoms. Tranquilizer symptoms .. yes. Coke .. no.

just because you get addicted to something doesn't
automatically make you an idiot. Your choices in life yes,
but not your intellegence.

So according to your words - just because Bush 43 is a recovering
alcoholic doesn't automatically make him an idiot ... right?
His actions might, but not the fact that he's a recovering
alcoholic and that he might be on a prescription medication.

Firstly I don't see why Sheen's opinions on 9/11 are any more important or worthy of consideration than yours or mine.

Secondly, I most certainly don't see how his marital situation has any bearing on the validity of his opinions on 9/11

Does this mean that in future before any of us express an opinion on any conspiratorial matter we have to sign an affidavit that we are in a steady, loving, relationship and have never hurt nor cheated on our partner in any manner whasoever?

Originally posted by Essan
Firstly I don't see why Sheen's opinions on 9/11 are any more important or worthy of consideration than yours or mine.

I don't see how his opinions have been proclaimed to be more important. He is simply in the media and can use the spotlight to voice his opinion. Most of us do not have the chance to be in front of the camera and able to voice your opinion to the mainstream media.

The face in front of the camera is no more important than the guy holding the camera.

Isn't it a NORMAL TACTIC when someone of 'fame' tries to spill the beans regarding Govt. behind the scenes actions, that all sorts of crap and 'skeletons' fly out of their closets?

Doesn't take much to start rumors about someone to discredit them once they start to speak out...

Originally posted by StarLord
Isn't it a NORMAL TACTIC when someone of 'fame' tries to spill the beans regarding Govt. behind the scenes actions, that all sorts of crap and 'skeletons' fly out of their closets?

Doesn't take much to start rumors about someone to discredit them once they start to speak out...

The drug and alcohol abuse isn't really a rumor though, its actually been going on alot longer than him speaking out against 9/11. I agree with your belief that if a star tries to voice a strong opinion and the government does not agree with it than they will do what they can to silence him. (Lennon)

This really isn't the case here.

What i'd like to know is who really cares who says what about the 9/11 conspiracy? Would it make you feel better if Robert Deniro or Tom Hanks was also against the 9/11 story? Then you would bash those 2 for being outside the box. Sheen isnt looking for attention in my opinion, just him stating where he stands on 9/11 has nothing to do with his supposed Alcohol or Drug addiction.. Some people are just so critical of others without thinking for a second that these other people ARE ALSO HUMAN , WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, SOMETIMES MORE THEN 100! Still doesnt mean i will discredit someones words because of this.. It is good to have someone in the limelight to bring this to the attentions of others, cause if you or i had said this to a group of people we would have probably had rocks thrown at us and we definately would'nt be on a talk show to tell the story we believe... To each his own..

Bud

Everybody seems to be missing two key points here.

One. What makes Charlie Sheen's opinion any more creditable than anyone else's? He is an actor, plain and simple, and not a very good one at that. Would you let him perform surgery on you, design your house or deliver your baby? Of course not. He has the right to his opinions, the same as the rest of us, but he has no special knowledge or information. If I want to know where to get drunk, get high or get laid while I am in Hollywood I'll call Charlie.

Two. Deniese Richards will soon be SINGLE again!