The Secret Nasa Transmissions. Smoking Gun

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I was asked to view this by a believer friend, after viewing i am starting to believe.

The astronaughts comments during a mission are unbelievable, mission control is stunned into silence by what is said. Other footage shown raises many many questions which nasa are not claiming are simple ice crystals and such.

Well worth a view if you are a sceptic on the subject.

This is an interesting video.

Some of the sts footage on this video appears to contradict the relatively linear behavior of the objects as seen on other sts UFO videos. There is much more interesting behavior here.

Also, there appears to be some image processing done on the tether sequences, but not in a bad way. I like the image processing done on the near field objects in the tether footage.

I also appreciate the lack of manipulative music. There is no music in the background here, and I greatly appreciate that.

Unfotunately, there is no context to analyze the video in their natural state, and I need to do that. The next step is for me to try to acquire some of this footage in its entirety for analysis. This is necessary, as I have seen cases from ufologists in the past ignoring sudden camera zoom, etc, in interpreting object motion.

Thanks for the link.

[edit on 19-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

Originally posted by The LinksWell worth a view if you are a sceptic on the subject.

Ok, I'll bite. The tether video is a bunch of indistinct blobs. When they zoom really far away when the tether is further out, the blobs become (probably due to ice specks being WAY out of focus) bigger in *appearance*. The same kind of thing happens occasionally with microscopes when you're focused way deep on a slide that has liquid.. Suddenly, the dude narrating assumes these are GIGANTIC objects passing in front of and behind the tether. I see no such thing. Call me crazy.

And why does he call all these things "spheres"? They're specks or blobs. I see no evidence of anything spherical. But hey, I was watching a crappy video link.

Otherwise, the guy doesn't sound crazy or anything. I'd be interested to hear some official explanation of each thing.

I've been watching live tranmissions from the ISS before and things have drifted into view, they've commented before saying things like 'what's that' and once or twice the camera has been turned around to face the ship's surface without explanation.

I love when the "Oberg-crystals" "navigate" in front of, then behind the Italian tether-power experiment. Funny how that tether snapped in exactly the right place to do no damage to the orbiter too... what wouldn't I do for some "clean" footage of that whole deal... "Phenomenon 2" as described by the late "Martin Stubbs" is the first documentation of the high speed "cosmic streak" things (not bad for a Cable Guy - you dun' good Martin)... cap'd some of my own streaks on CNN STS-114... LLWille got your ears on? u2u me. Stay vector, baby - stay vector.

Victor K

[edit on 19-4-2006 by V Kaminski]

Originally posted by V Kaminski
I love when the "Oberg-crystals" "navigate" in front of, then behind the Italian tether-power experiment.

Sorry, but I'm not seeing that. The contrast on the tether video makes everything blown-out, and all I see is a bunch of over-bright tether with a camera focused WAY far away and small specks close up being rendered as blobs and donuts with cutouts (which, BTW, I've seen in optics from microscopes and telescopes before and it had nothing to do with space aliens).

The whole "behind vs in-front-of" is in the eye of the beholder. Even if you think you see an edge around a "sphere" over the tether in one shot, and then an edge of the tether OVER a sphere in another, this is more likely just individual lighting/contrast differences in each speck. You'd have to see actual focused detail of tether and/or "sphere" to show depth. And why is it easier to believe that these are HUGE mysterious objects than that they are out-of-focus small debris?

Honestly, why?

Interesting movie. Pretty good proof and explanations. Well, they don't explain anything really but it's interesting none the less.

I suppose I'm going to have to break down and watch the entire thing...skimmed it for about 15 min (various parts), and I don't see anything more than ice crystals reflecting moonlight, or vids of orbital debris.... From what we've seen of other planets through probes, etc. Small rocks, dust, etc. are actually quite commonly in orbit around planets, so it shouldn't be a surprise to find the same around Earth.

Fleets of UFOs or ice crystals? Seriously, which is more plausible here. And I'm a believer!

The fact that at the beginning they show artwork not of UFOs but of certain identifiable symbolism (i.e. anthropomorphic man in the sun and moon, gondola boats, etc.), and a vid of a test rocket in the desert, don't exactly make it come out of the gate running....

Great find though!

[edit on 19-4-2006 by Gazrok]

Interesting vid even though some of it could also be vid fuzz. Now if we could only get the cigarette smoking man's opinion on this entire thing

Please look at the whole video, and from my copy (sorry the datums may be different) look at the 1:20:11 - 1:20:17 tether portion. OK, what's my perceived significance of the ice-crystals moving in front and then (not versus) behind - Uh, ice crystals don't do that do they? One, by itself, circles around the tether's axis coming in from one direction and then goes back the same direction from which it came. In front and behind - around. Hmmm. OK ice-crystals.
My other perceived significance to the front/ behind thing is that those up close (in front) can be reasonably explained as ice-crystals small, lit up, refracted, whatever... the one's that pass behind the 12 mile long tether that's 70 plus miles away... look to be the "grand-daddies" of the one that fell in Oakland last week... look at them, they are over 70 miles away and they pass behind the tether and are a wee bit big for ice-crystals - even with refraction. You tell me how big they are or are not.
I'm sure folks can make or not make up their own mind's about ice crytals potentially a kilometer in size.
Ever look through a microscope at swamp water? Try it and compare to this video, or not - whatever. Also, 'ever seen an "Orange Ball" UFO? Me and six members of my family have. The Orange sphere seemed to have a similar "notch" missing as some of these ice-crystals have at their perimeter. You won't have to look closely.
The best stuff on the video is the "Phenomenon 2" or as I'd like to see them one day called "Stubbs-streaks" near the end and the LLWille footage. The "Stubbs-streaks" may be entirely natural and explainable - so start explaining, cosmic rays, self-illuminating whatzits? Go ahead, please.
I want to find ol' LLW one day and thank him for being so patient, some of his stuff is well - visually stunning.
Ever wonder why ISS footage is so "crisp" and other footage of more controversial stuff is "of dubious quality" so frequently? I do, and it may be the same reason why the various Moon pics and Mars anomaly pics that raise eyebrows have the same "quality and assurance" troubles.
I had the guys down at DKP, now IDT (they do graphics an' stuff for folks like NASA, Sony, CSA and the Dungeons and Dragons folks) run my AVI format copy of this video and they took apart the video and although inconclusive it was pretty much consensus that footage that bad had been "cooked" on purpose.
I think the camera guy wasn't at fault - I think it gets "damaged" enroute during downlink by command perhaps.
One thing that makes this video "extra-interesting" to me and perhaps for the ice-crystals too, is the very nature of the tether experiment. Think Tesla, think DC, think fields - they were trying to tap "juice" by dragging the ball portion behind and below them. I wonder how much juice they generated before the carbon-fibre tether "accidentally" broke. They never have repeated the experiment either... I wonder why? Perhaps they are reticent to put so many ice-crystals in danger of electrocution? Ran out of STS missions? Nah, couldn't be, authority never misleads, especially the human kind. They got the data they wanted.

Thanx, I love this stuff,

Victor K.

ARGGGHH! This video makes the same claim about an object changing direction that his California partner made. That direciton change is clearly due to the camera zooming out.

They then take an editing version where the earth is not included (they show only the upper left part of the video) so that you can't see the camera zooming out. But in the full footage, (they also show) it is very very clear that the camera is zooming, and AS SOON AS IT STOPS ZOOMING is when the object takes on a new vector.

Thats trash! I am so angry. Why don't they get this????????????

As for the object in relation to the tether, I think, from my perspective, you can see that some of the objects pass behind the tether. In particular, pay attention to the 'shadow' to the right side of the tether and note that some of the fluffdisks pass behind that apparent shadow. Now I'm a little worried, though, that they might have run some enhancement algorithms that created an artificial dark line on the right side of the tether. I'll have to look into that.

I think the tether snap was just coincidental.

I happened to be doing some summer research at an atmospheric/space science department at the time of the snap, and I remember that all of the scientists were very gloomy about the event. They had spent, literally, years, building the damned tether and then it broke.

They had HOPED that the biggest problem would be drag during electrical current generation. But then the thing just plain snapped and drifted away. A painfully observable death for their research effort.

Anyways, I'm going to look at this video some more.

At first, I thought it was largely near field stuff. But then the stuff near the tether seems to pass behind. That I will look at much more.

But as for this 'objects' changing direction stuff you can CLEARLY see from the earth to the lower right of the footage that the vector change is do to the camera zooming out. Its just sooooo annoying that people smart enough to record all of this NASA footage could miss that, and refuse to take notice of it.

I haven't seen any of the objects do anything but move linearly, but I will continue to watch the footage in the coming days, especially the early tether footage, and look for any change in motion I can find.

p.s. Links: Don't be a believer or a non-believer. Be a thinker and a questioner and you will be more than either. Open mind, Occam's Razor.


[edit on 20-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

[edit on 20-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

V Kaminski, regarding the notches i just viewed the tether footage again, it is clear to see that most of the phenomena 2 has a notch out of it. The position of the notch is random to the direction of travel.

Thinking about this today it reminded me to a certain degree of the human condition "seeing stars" and the way the stars moved in a very random motion (speed/direction). What is the medical term for seeing stars after physical exersion?

In that video at the time frame 45.56/1.29.19 there is either a hoax special effect or a meteor dropping from the sky check it out and tell me what you think.

It could be the ice too?

ive got and seen all the movies and its quite interesting

with the teather, all the objects have a slot cut out of them in the same place, the camera dips into the infrared some of the objects are semi transparent, and i can clearly see whatever they are move behind the teather.

i can see the resemblence with lense flare and ice crystals but to me it honestly doesnt fit

in my oppinion this phenomenon deserves a good look in to

also with the red streak thing and the comments the astronauts make, i also think it needs to be scientifically looked into

Originally posted by seridium
In that video at the time frame 45.56/1.29.19 there is either a hoax special effect or a meteor dropping from the sky check it out and tell me what you think.

It could be the ice too?

has anyone wtched thsi video yet or what ???

Watch this Video !!!
This is by far the most HEAVY video I have seen.
The part where they zoom in on the objects floating around their 100 000 000 dollar payload CRAZY!

In the video you can see the Objects in space feeding off our Ionosphere some glow more than others some just sit some move towards the lighting that was amazing.
We must be some huge power supply also for these anunaki ?
Watch this Video !!!

[edit on 22-4-2006 by seridium]

I've seen this video before and I can't really make out what the "objects" are. Let me watch it again..

After review, I would have to agree with Gazrok about debris/ice crystals explanation.



[edit on 4/22/2006 by djsly]

Originally posted by Gazrok
I suppose I'm going to have to break down and watch the entire thing...skimmed it for about 15 min (various parts), and I don't see anything more than ice crystals reflecting moonlight, or vids of orbital debris.... From what we've seen of other planets through probes, etc. Small rocks, dust, etc. are actually quite commonly in orbit around planets, so it shouldn't be a surprise to find the same around Earth.

Fleets of UFOs or ice crystals? Seriously, which is more plausible here. And I'm a believer!

The fact that at the beginning they show artwork not of UFOs but of certain identifiable symbolism (i.e. anthropomorphic man in the sun and moon, gondola boats, etc.), and a vid of a test rocket in the desert, don't exactly make it come out of the gate running....

Great find though!

[edit on 19-4-2006 by Gazrok]

did you watch the part where the 100 000 000 dollar satalite breaks free from the teather?
What are all the Flying objects I can see clearly over 80 of them diff shapes sizes? did you miss that part?
these objects are taking in some kinda of energy source from are ionosphere in numerous video footage.
It is very ovious also in this video that the objects are all diff sizes shapes a and some have differnet energy field glows about them, And when the one flys over the electrical storms in the one nasa video u can see it clearly glow with the electrical energy.
How could you possible say those look like ice crystals for one how much ice do the carry on the space craft ? LOL hundreads of bag fulls come on dont be so niave and ignorant all in the same thought.

Originally posted by seridium
I can see clearly over 80 of them diff shapes sizes? did you miss that part?

I guess I missed it. All I saw was a bunch of (probably) ice and specks of junk at varying distances from the lens.

these objects are taking in some kinda of energy source from are ionosphere in numerous video footage.

Really? Wow. I must've watched a different video. I didn't see anything taking in energy sources.

dont be so niave and ignorant all in the same thought.

Ok, this is what I'm getting quite tired of here on ATS (I'm relatively new).. Someone who doesn't believe the standard conspiracy line is either naive, ignorant, or a part of the conspiracy itself. I hear it about the 9/11 stuff (and please, don't respond off-topic about THAT), and now about this NASA footage about which *reasonable* people can form multiple opinions.

I agree with Sophismata on this one. If can see the objects taking in energy, please explain the footage in the video from which you extrapolate the energy exchange. Please note the specific video phenomena indicating energy exchange.

You mentioned something about change in brightness, I think. Please elaborate.