I'm running for President in 08.

Hm, your vision of government vaguely reminds me of the worst visions of a world ruled by the NWO.

You'll love it after you get used to it. I was watching a history show tonite.
They used to put coals under an iron chair and get it red hot, then make the christians sit in it. they used to feed christians to lions and tigers, they used to crucify them as well.
You know what they say about "what goes around, comes around" .
I was getting all kinds of cool ideas for executions after I win.
Could you imagine the money we could make by selling executions on pay per view around the world. We'd make billions for putting a congressman in a red hot iron chair. " our ad slogan could be something like - we don't sell the congressman, we sell the sizzle" When we hang em or feed em to lions we could set box office records. We could pay off the national debt by executing the traitors on pay per view.
Firing squads, hanging, iron chair, electric chair, crucifixion, lion food. We could even blow em up. We could kill them like they kill us..... a little at a time. We could lie to em and torment em before we kill em. we could say we are releasing them, then when they are led to the death chamber, it would be a gas to see the look on their faces.
I'm thinking we could throw em into a pool of piranahas or sharks. throw em off the top of the empire state building like what happened to us on 9/11.

VOTE FOR SHOT MESSENGER IN 08 AND WATCH THE BAD GUYS SCREAM AND SWEAT- AND BLEED!

So I guess this won't be the Peace Party then? Maybe the Green Party? Balance the ticket with Nader?

I'm still confused. Are we voting or revolting? Although the candidates are normally fairly revolting in and of themselves.

We've got the platform [KILLKILLKILL Everyone we don't like in the slowest and most agonizing way possible] people can rally around. All we need is a party and a convention [Slate SHOT or be Shot]; that works. A natural base of WWE fans. I think we're on a roll.

Or something.

Tv is giving me some really good ideas.
I think a revolution like the first one won't fly.
We need a revolution like the French Revolution with the whole "reign of terror" bit.
The people just need to run wild in the streets whacking those fools.
Kind of like voting with a baseball bat instead of a stylus.

After we "will the election" with the baseball bat we can start executing the bad guys on pay per view worldwide. I saw some great ways to execute the bad guys on the History channel. ever heard of drawn and quartered, boiled in oil, burned at the stake. We could make em wrestle in a pit filled with breading and 11 herbs and spices, and tell them the loser gets fried in oil. The joint would smell like KFC.

The important thing is to make sure that none of them get away. Hunt em down like the Mossad hunted NAZI's. That would restore our standing in the world.
The supreme law is the survival of the state. We ain't gonna survive much longer if we stay on the course we're on. We're doomed for sure, and soon. China could collapse our economy tomorrow if they wanted to. One day, boom, instant collapse.
If the oil flow is even temporarily interrupted, it's over baby.

First of all, what age are you? If you're under the age of 35 years old, that disqualifies you from the start.

Second, who are the 'bad guys' you want to hang from telephone poles? The Democrats? The Republicans? The Libertarians?

While I can sympathise with your sentiments towards todays society as a whole, I do believe that hanging unwanted members of society from a telephone pole a bit barbaric.

Besides, if you tried to run on this format, you'd lose faster than you can blink.

You need to win the support of the people (or a majority of them) and then when you get elected, do the opposite of what you promised in your campaign!

Now that's the way politics work!



[edit on 9/5/06 by Intelearthling]

1- Get baseball bats
2- Run wild
3- Whack "fools"
4- Execute "bad guys" on pay-per-view
5- Make sure to get them ALL
6- Thus restoring our standing in the world

Maybe it's just me, but I think we're leaving out something between steps 5 & 6. Of course anything starting out with, "TV is giving me some really good ideas" gives me some pause.

Don't we need a high sign or code word or hat or something to make sure all the bat wielding "voters" aren't whacking the wrong fools? And how will we know when we're done? Isn't there always another fool or bad guy? And isn't that distinction based entirely upon a very subjective perception?

Don't put me on the whack list, I'm just thinkin'.

You make Hitler sound like one of the good guys. Oh yeah, we want to follow you.

Where does it end? Kill everyone? When do you stop killing people? Who's on first?

Sorry I don't have time to read the thread I created but i have a campaign to run.
This goes to theory and platform.

It's my theory that prescription drug prices are so high because the government creates a YAXPAYER FUNDED program to cover the cost gouging by drug companies evrytime the drug company raises prices.

If the government quit paying for senior citizen prescription drugs [ solely to get re-elected] then the prices would have to go down dramatically or the drug company won't sell many drugs and get rich. If the people are dying because the drug companies are trying to get too much for their drugs, then we all will know who's fault it is. The problem is "life" . everybody wants to live long and disease free but they don't want to take responsibility for their own health. 65% of americans are obese. Peroblems related to that are DIABETES, HEART DISEASE, DEPRESSION, ARTHRITIS, CANCER, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND SO ON.

If people take better care of themselves and the government quits paying drug company ransom, then the problem goes away.

***** NOTE TO DRUG COMPANY.

FOR A SMALL CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION, I CAN FORGET ALL OF THIS. I'LL NEVER SAY IT AGAIN.

I just read the thread. After the revolution that will be won without blood, because the powers that be will just surrender, we'll just forgive and forget. We'll let the bad guys keep all that booty. there should be no consequences for criminal action.

HOW YA LIKE ME NOW ? I CAN'T KEEP FLIP FLOPPING LIKE THIS FELLAS.

I was just thinking that if you have a revolution and reinstitue new government, if we let the bad guys live and keep their money, they'll just be a problem later.
It just seems to me that it wasn't meant to be that the people fear and mistrust the government. Seems like it would work better if the government KNEW it would be their ass if they try some dirty crap. But we'd never be able to keep up if we allow the same ole media whore types to live and keep their money.
BUT HEY! AMNESTY FOR EVERYBODY !! VIVA SHOT MESSENGER !!!

Is there any potential middle ground between "torture them to a screaming bloody death on pay-per-view" and "let 'em all go scot free with total amnesty and no penalty"?

Inquiring minds...

The idea behind the "execution" thing on pay-per-view is the money.
Now if you execute three on pay-per-view and you sell it to 100 million people at 10 bucks a pop, you make a billion dollars, do that 1000 times and you make a trillion dollars. Plus, we can't take all their assets- that alone may pay off the national debt.
amnesty isn't preferrable because you dam well never heard of one of those powers that be giving anybody else amnesty. You got to let the next governemnt know that it's their ass if they rob,kill, betray, lie to, conspire, take bribes and spend money they don't have. Now, the people fear government and the intrusion into their lives. The government needs to govern with fear and trembling. We'll pay em good for all the stress. 150G a year is fair. term limits do apply.

I have to tell you all, I'm just not feeling the love. What I need is a campaign slogan maybe. Let me know what you think of this.

"A HORSE IN EVERY GARAGE, A ROAST IN EVERY POT, A POLITICAN HANGING FROM EVERY TREE, AND WE'LL ALL BE LIVING DAM NEAR TAX FREE."

[edit on 16-5-2006 by shot messenger]

But doesn't this technically make you a politician?

Have a tree preference, or just whatever holds a rope?

Is this flawed syllogistic reasoning on my part?

Or what?

Yeahright,
I guess it does technically make me a politican. I'll be held to the same standard I believe we should hold elected offials to.

No, i have no tree preference. Actually, I'm not that much in love with the hanging thing. I mean, the first few on pay-per-view may be a lot of fun if we put a mic on the collar so we can hear the neckbone snap, but that could get old quick. If we want to sustain high pay-per-view numbers, we should take great care to violently escalate the executions. Hanging, firing squads and electric chairs won't hold the interest of the viewer. We'll be shooting for one billion suscribers at 10 bucks a pop, so we can earn a billion a week. To keep those ratings numbers, we will have to resort to drama. BOILING IN OIL-COMPLETE WITH SCREAMING AND CRYING.
FEEDING THE LIONS- WITH ALL THE SCREAMING AND GROWLING.
BURNING AT THE STAKE- WITH ALL THE SCREAMING. AND A SPECIAL TREAT- THROWING THEM OFF THE TOP OF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING- YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FOLKS WHO JUMPED OFF THE WTC. DRAWING AND QUARTERING SEEMS PERFECTLY GHASTLY. THAT INVOLVES TYING THEM TO FOUR HORSES AND STAMPEDING THE HORSES UNTIL THE ARMS AND LEGS TEAR AWAY. KIND OF LIKE THOSE HYENAS ON A ANTELOPE ON THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAM.

At a billion a week, we could possibly earn a trillion bucks over time. If we "take all their assets and their family assets", we could probably get a few trillion there as well. If we can get it down to 5 trillion, we can just mint a 5 trillion dollar coin and throw it in the street and let the bondholders fight over it. Most of the folks holding debt bonds are thieves themselves. China holds more debt bonds than anybody. If they complain about getting ripped-off, we can just bow and say "SO SORRY." They're into that type of stuff. Of course they could hit us with nukes since THE PEOPLE WE ARE EXECUTING SOLD OUR NUCLEAR SECRETS TO CHINA.
HEY, CONGRESSMAN COX SAID THE GUILTY PARTIES SHOULD BE EXECUTED.


***** LOOK FOR MY FIRST CAMPAIGN SPEECH... TO BE POSTED HERE ON IT'S OWN THREAD IN A FEW DAYS. ***** SEND CONTRIBUTIONS TO ATS FOR ALL THEIR HELP IN GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT.

[edit on 19-5-2006 by shot messenger]

Note to ATS.

If you notice a sudden spike in contributions soon, I'd ask you to kick me back, but that would be unethical. But you know.............. [wink wink].

MY GOD!! I'M BECOMING ONE OF THEM AND I AIN'T EVEN ONE OF THEM YET.!!!

With your platform so far, it ought to be easy to beat you in a election...
I compliment your idea, but disagree with your methods and result...

so in closing:
Vote for Lazarusthelong in 08

Technocratic party candidate
one person- one vote
justice will be blind
science will rule the day
logic will dictate decisions.
No PACs or any other type of money-influence buying allowed- equates to treason against the people of the USA.

Originally posted by shot messenger
MY GOD!! I'M BECOMING ONE OF THEM AND I AIN'T EVEN ONE OF THEM YET.!!!

Yes, that did take a very long time, didn't it?

See, even the anticipation of power corrupts. I might have to throw in with LazarustheLong.

I hereby challenge Lazarus da long to a "vision statement" comparison.
I will post my vision statement first and Lazo can have 48 hours to post his.
It is now 7:18 p.m. in washington D.C. I will post my vision statement by this time tomorrow, saturday the 20th of may, 2006. After Lazodelong is shown to be inferior, I'll extend an offer of VP to the young man. He'll need a job.




Then i'm going to the Preakness and betting a trifecta with "SWEETNORTHERNSAINT" ON TOP AND "LIKE NOW" WITH "BROTHER DEREK" 2ND AND 3RD AND "BERNARDINI" 4TH , THATS A SUPEREFECTA WORTH AT LEAST 500K BECAUSE I'M LEAVING BARBARO OUT OF IT.

i say good luck to u but it is my opinion that it is not the president that actually pulls the strings it is that majority behind the curtain that does if u go in there with plans to change something my guess is they wont allow u to do so but i cld b wrong

Statement of vision...

Separation of god and state, but respect reserved for religious freedom.

Science answers for science problems...

I dont have the neccessary equipment to decide Roe vs Wade questions, but will say, that it is something that women need to figure out without men screwing up the decision.
I suggest the first sex based vote, to decide the fate of abortion.

I think terrorism is bad... but helping create more terrorists is stupid...

I will look at other countries solutions to problems, instead of suffering pride of "Not invented here"

As far as the economy goes, i have many micro managed suggestions, taking advantage of technology, to once again, take the lead in science and computing...
it will be the focus of our manufacturing sector, as well as environmentally friendly industries to counter our "ugly smelly behemoths" that we depend on now. (i.e wind turbine, solar cells).

I also advocate more childrens protection, and more equality of education...

and one more thing...
Total election reform...
one person- one vote
no buying of influence... in any way...