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Originally posted by infinite
Our most popular Labour supporter has once again applied his party spin to another thread.
We are lucky we dont have a PR system in this Country, if we did, we would have a fair amount of BNP MPs sitting around and chanting.
Originally posted by Winchester Ranger T
It says something when the BNP is the "sanest" party out there.
If they would just tone down their rhetoric, they could really gain some ground on the major parties.
It would make Labour's University Trotskys gag on their bean curd risotto.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
as well as supporting a bunch of low lifes who are pissing out kids left and right on council estates, living off benefits and cheating the system and going out drinking and partying on government money.
Originally posted by Odium
As for immigration into the United Kingdom, is there a problem? In reality, immigrants only make up a small percentage of the United Kingdom. If you go to an area where lots of Asian people live, of course you’ll see many of them. However, walk down the High Street of many places that have been mentioned. Let’s take Coventry - I was born in Coventry, I grew in Coventry and Wolverhampton. If I go to them, I see a vastly larger amount of white people than I ever do black. The real problem is, institutional racism in the United Kingdom to this day. This removes the ability for immigrants to accurately factor in to the society.
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Yeah ok but check your own link AoB.
The biggest 2 groups of 'foreigners' (included and a very large part of that "4.9 million foreign born persons in the UK, accounting for 8.3%") here in the UK are either Irish or European born peoples, as it says.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Is it really a small percentage?
According to the British Government there are 4.9 million foreign born persons in the UK, accounting for 8.3% of Britain's population.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
If you add the children of immigrants, who were born in the UK, the number is probably much, much, higher.
Originally posted by Odium
Again, you do not know for sure the amount of them. So again it could not even be 8.£5 including the children. However, if you think about it everyone in hte U.K. is an immigrant.
However, 8.3% is not a lot of people. When you think that'll include every type of immigrant, African, Asian, European. So less then 1/10 people. Again that's not very high at all.
Originally posted by Odium
In fact, there was a nice peice written today: Europe in Immigration Quandary It still looks like more people are dying in the E.U. than are being born. So we might just need some more of those immigrants.
observer.guardian.co.uk
Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century. Analysis of official figures indicate that, at current fertility rates and levels of immigration, there will be more non-whites than whites by 2100.
It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Its better to let the population fall than to replace it with non-Europeans.
Britain would be better off with a population of 50 million who are almost all ethnically British or European than a population of 80 million with 30 million Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Africans.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
If Britain needs immigrants so badly why doesn't the Government grant Asylum to the 4.5 million white South Africans?
Originally posted by AceOfBase
EDIT: BTW, It is estimated that whites will become a minority in London by 2010 and will become a minority through the whole country by 2100. Other European countries are predicted to become non-white majorites by 2050. That's within our lifetimes.
Originally posted by Odium
Why though? You've yet to give one reason for this.
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And? It's not like these people have came over here, evicted our Government, taken our land, killed our leaders and forced us to be their slaves. Nor do they treat us as second class citizens. So where is the problem?
thisislancashire
FAMILIES feared for their safety as gangs of white and Asian youths fought a running battle outside their Bolton homes.
Up to 60 youths carrying iron bars, clubs and even a sword were believed to have been involved in the brawl in Hawthorne Road, Deane, on Saturday night.
education.guardian.co.uk
A group of Somali boys were sitting outside a cafe on Stratford Road in Birmingham talking about their experience of school. Modqtar, now 17, was beaten up twice a day and picked on for having poor English. The perpetrators were often Asian gangs.
Five years after his family fled Somalia, the teenager was petrified about travelling around his adopted homeland. 'I have to get two buses here, and two buses back. That is four chances of getting beaten up every day. They shout at us to go back to where we came from. But they are not from here either.'
His friend Mustafa nodded sagely, adding: 'We get attacked by everyone in school - Asian gangs, white gangs, black Jamaicans. Everyone wants to fight us.'
BBC
It is an uncomfortable conclusion from happiness research data perhaps - but multicultural communities tend to be less trusting and less happy.
Research by the Home Office suggests that the more ethnically diverse an area is, the less people are likely to trust each other.
The Commission for Racial Equality has also done work looking at the effect of diversity on well-being.
Interviewed on The Happiness Formula, the chair of the Commission for Racial Equality, Trevor Phillips accepts that people are happier if they are with people like themselves.
[rl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/5012478.stm]Source[/url]
The arrival of the Huguenots or the Jews into Britain brought significant social tensions which have largely disappeared.
Originally posted by spymaster
as i said before the bnp are not far-right..its that simple
sure they are right wing but far-right i think you would have to look at the likes of :
league of st George/stormfront/C18 or that type of organisation for them to be ''far-right'.
What i cant understand is the bnp are an elected party ..like it or not, yeah , therefor they do have the right to campaign as do all the other parties
ive got nothing to hide mate, im genuinly not a rascist person
but god brought me into this world in England and white ..being proud of that FACT is not a rascist comment
well you may have things mixed up here mate..these group of thugs were BUF british union of fascists and had Nothing to do with bnp as we know it today.
the NF they are long gone and forgotten as far as many are concerned
the days of skinheads in boots and braces are over.
They in their day were too un-organised and too extreme for their time IMHO?
Sminkey ive had many a tit-4-tat discussion with you
you are a very intelligent and well read person
i feel your comments are very blinkered (very left-wing)
you pick up on the smallest of parts and then quote stats for this?
I must say that to the majority your stats have BEEN accurate
but we know stats take a long time to coallate and therefor the time they are published they become inaccurate to the present time.
Just today on the news they were talking about ''world migration''
in 2004 over 400,000 people from within europe migrated to the uk with only 67,000 uk residents migrating elsewhere.
like i said that was 2004 we are now in 2006 things have changed......
Look, im not saying that this or that should be done, but we are only a small island in a bloody big world so it would seem to effect the economic issues in this country more than if this country was the size of russia for argument sake.
We ALL have got to open our eyes a bit more those of us like myself (who some may feel that i have right wing views) and those like you sminkey
and realise things are changing, and its not an ideal world we are living in mate.
kids NO matter where they are NO matter what colour they are SHOULD NOT BE GOING WITHOUT FOOD
there should be NO poverty in the world in 2006
it isnt directed at you sminkey
(coz i know you will come back and shoot me down in flames)
i am not aswell read or intelligent as you
and do not know how to express the opinions im trying to put accross as you may do,
but
ive tried