Military Coup in Washington?

Originally posted by shot messenger

NOW, STUPID PEOPLE, this is where you come in. You are expected to believe that Bush and the GOP is the dummies screwing things up, and you will vote for the bad guys that are holding a gun - a nuclear one- to the head of your president.
YOU BETTER GET IT WAY DOWN IN YOUR SOUL BABY.

[edit on 14-4-2006 by shot messenger]

okeydokey, now that we have heard from the local militia contengent, shall we move on?

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas

Military experts expressed some concern about the new outspokenness of retired generals.

This could be them setting the stage for the Second Civil War. If they show us they are squabbling up on Capitol Hill, then it shows dividedness between the Top Brass.

new outspokenness of retired generals? and this guy is supposed to be an expert? hell, macarthur was outspoken against truman's warplan for korea while he was theater commander. this is nothing new, and calling it "setting the stage for the second civil war" is simply sensationalism.

Excuse me, but no where do I see in the article that suggest that there is any coup being attempted behind the scenes, nor do the former military generals have suggested that. They make comparison that they felt they are being mismanage and mislead like Secretary of Defense McNamara during the Vietnam war which I did not see any coup since a long decade of war. They can grumble all they want but remember that they also have some blame to take with them.

Also, the generals themselves may be partly to blame for the situation in Iraq, along with Rumsfeld and the White House, said Michael Vickers, an analyst at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a Washington think tank.

"It's just absurd to lay the blame on Don Rumsfeld alone," he said.

The American people do not support any military coup and there has never been one in America's history. The Americans always believe in the civilian control of the military.

Originally posted by snafu7700
new outspokenness of retired generals? and this guy is supposed to be an expert? hell, macarthur was outspoken against truman's warplan for korea while he was theater commander. this is nothing new, and calling it "setting the stage for the second civil war" is simply sensationalism.

It may not be new, but it is rare. It is against the military code for active duty military personnel to speak out against the government. That is why you don't see active duty soldiers speaking up, only the retired generals. Also, the reason that many of these "retired generals" are retired is because they disagreed with Rumsfeld, who wants no advice from the military (and who also seems to not know very much about military ops). They disagreed and were forced into retirement - these are not fossilized old guys of 90 years old, they know their stuff, and they probably know more about military ops than anyone else.

And I agree that this doesnt mean a coup, they're just trying to get rid of Rumsfeld who they believe is incompetent.



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You have any proof to back up your claims That "alot" of these Generals are retired because of their beliefs. It is not their job to make policy, it is their job to follow it and if necessary enforce it where ever they are told to go. I would be willing to bet they werent "retired", but that they instead resigned. Bring me some proof to your claim and I will gladly agree with you.

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