7/7: What The Trains Tell Us

Below is some information that seriously undermines the 'Official' version of what happened on that fateful day in London.

London Bombers Alleged Train Ride Impossible!

Confirmed by Chris Hudson,
Communications Manager, Thameslink Rail Ltd.

Much fuss was made by the Police and Government regarding the train journey the alleged suicide bombers took on their way to commit the terrorist acts. However, new evidence has come to light, courtesy of one Chris Hudson, of the British rail company, Thameslink Rail Ltd., that seriously dents the official story of the suicide bomber's train journey that morning.

Below is a timetable, with minutes late and actual times:

Trains - Luton To Kings Cross

Between 7.00 am - 8.00 am Thursday, 7th July, 2005

Key: LL = Leaving Luton, AKC = Arrive/Arrived Kings Cross, DL = Departed Luton


TIMETABLE ---------------------------------------------------------- ACTUAL TIMES

Official Timetable ---- Minutes Late ----------------------------- Actual Time

LL ---- AKC ---------- LL ---------- AKC ------------------------- DL ----- AKC
-------------------------------------------------------- Platform --------------------
7.04 - 7.40 --------- On Time --- On Time ----- 1 or 3 ------ 7.04 - 7.40
7.08 - 7.56 --------- On Time --- 30 Minutes -- 1 or 3 ----- 7.08 - 8.26
7.16 - 7.48 --------- 5 Minutes - 31 Minutes -- 1 or 3 ----- 7.21 - 8.19
7.20 - 8.08 --------- On Time --- 7 Minutes --- 1 or 3 ----- 7.20 - 8.15
7.24 - 8.00 --------- 1 Minute --- 23 Minutes - 1 or 3 ----- 7.25 - 8.23
7.30 - 8.04 --------- 12 Minutes 35 Minutes -- 4 ---------- 7.42 - 8.39
7.40 - 8.16 --------- N/A ---------- N/A ------------------- Cancelled - Cancelled
7.46 - 8.28 --------- N/A ---------- N/A ------------------- Cancelled - Cancelled
7.48 - 8.20 --------- 8 Minutes -- 22 Minutes - 3 ---------- 7.56 - 8.42
7.56 - 8.32 --------- N/A ---------- N/A ------------------- Cancelled - Cancelled

How This Affects The Story:

The Police stated that the following picture shows the bombers entering Luton Station, hoping to catch 7:40 train into London. A service that had been cancelled, no less.



Please note that the 7:30 train did not arrive at Kings Cross until 8:39, a full 13 minutes after the bombers were allegedly caught on camera.

And I emphasize that the Police said the bombers took the 7:40 train, as opposed to the only other option, the 7:24. See below.

Police Press Conference Quote 14 July, 2005: "Hasib Hussain, an 18-year-old from Leeds, is shown in a CCTV image mounting the stairs at Luton station before taking the 7.40am train to King's Cross. There the four bombers split up and launched their attacks during last Thursday's rush hour"

But also, for any Brits who may be reading this and are familiar with Luton Station. Look at the picture again. Doesn't that seem a bit quiet for a station entering the morning rush in a town of over 250 thousand people?

So, yet more evidence pointing to a false flag operation conducted against a British public, who at the time were growing less and less supportive of the so called War On Terror?

funny that they wouldn't have clarified that statement yet when it so obviously couldn't have happened that way. It is just amazingly strange that they haven't caught their own mistake and clarified it yet. And in a case like this that sort of strange on top of a fairly shaky basic story.... At the very least we need to start asking hard questions and demanding straight answers.

The latest MPs report into the July 7 bombings decides no one is to blame (sound familiar) but that several agencies were at fault (so there is someone to blame after all?)

July 7 leader 'slipped out of intelligence net'

Also, eerily like what happened on 9/11, the lead bomber was being tracked by M15 but then they were taken off his trail for no apparent reason leaving him to get on with whatever it was he had to do.

Again, no one is to blame for this decision. I wouldn't be surprised if some people also are getting commendations or promotions.

You could have posted the link to the website that contains this information instead of passing it off as your own! All that can be claimed here for certainty is that the police picked the wrong train for the bombers because they did not bother to check with Thameslink whether the 7.40am train had left the station that day, and that they have never corrected their mistake. However, it was STILL possible for the men to have arrived at Luton station shortly before 7.22am (which the CCTV photo shows them as doing) with tickets bought on an earlier day and have run quickly to the platform where the 7.24am train was waiting and which left late at 7.25am, i.e., they had about three minutes to catch it. This train arrived at Kings Cross at 8.23am, which is consistent with the claim by the police that the men were seen on CCTV at Kings Cross shortly before 8.30am. In other words, contrary to the claim on 02/09/2005 at iraqwar.mirror-world.ru... which you are merely repeating, the bombers could, if they had tickets bought on a previous day and had ran for the train, managed to get to Kings Cross before the first bomb exploded at 8.50am. There is no problem of time here indicating that the bombers could not have arrived in London in time before the bombs went off.

Originally posted by micpsi
You could have posted the link to the website that contains this information instead of passing it off as your own!

At what point did I say it was MY info? I posted it myself to CONDENSE the info. You assume too much.

However, it was STILL possible for the men to have arrived at Luton station shortly before 7.22am (which the CCTV photo shows them as doing) with tickets bought on an earlier day and have run quickly to the platform where the 7.24am train was waiting and which left late at 7.25am, i.e., they had about three minutes to catch it. This train arrived at Kings Cross at 8.23am, which is consistent with the claim by the police that the men were seen on CCTV at Kings Cross shortly before 8.30am.

You state the obvious. But why, after all the pressure the police have been under do they stick to the story of the bombers catching the 7:40? The police have been adamant that they were on the 7:40, despite all the questions. Do you suggest that the Metropolitan Police are so incompetant that they would not liase with Thameslink?

In other words, contrary to the claim on 02/09/2005 at iraqwar.mirror-world.ru... which you are merely repeating,

Actually, my info came from a different site...

the bombers could, if they had tickets bought on a previous day and had ran for the train, managed to get to Kings Cross before the first bomb exploded at 8.50am. There is no problem of time here indicating that the bombers could not have arrived in London in time before the bombs went off.

Yes, that is a distinct possibility, I agree. But again I ask why we are being told stuff that does not add up? And please, do not try and deny that the police have repeated time and again that they were on the 7:40, because there are numerous occasions when they have said it.

Originally posted by Daystar

Originally posted by micpsi

However, it was STILL possible for the men to have arrived at Luton station shortly before 7.22am (which the CCTV photo shows them as doing) with tickets bought on an earlier day and have run quickly to the platform where the 7.24am train was waiting and which left late at 7.25am, i.e., they had about three minutes to catch it. This train arrived at Kings Cross at 8.23am, which is consistent with the claim by the police that the men were seen on CCTV at Kings Cross shortly before 8.30am.

You state the obvious. But why, after all the pressure the police have been under do they stick to the story of the bombers catching the 7:40? The police have been adamant that they were on the 7:40, despite all the questions. Do you suggest that the Metropolitan Police are so incompetant that they would not liase with Thameslink?

well, from my experience, yea! they are that incompetant.
but you are right that they shouldnt be going around assuming and then making statements.

You are right to bring it up though, definately, its very confusing.
Where did you get the timetables / acutal arrivals from?