Did anybody from the Pentagon come forward and say, "Yes, I saw the plane fly into our building."

My Dad and I were talking about the Charlie Sheen comments and the 911 conspiracy. My Dad claims nobody who was in the Pentagon on 9/11 has come forward saying they saw the plane that supposedly hit the building. I've seen pics of it, but can't see any plane wreckage at all. I'm sure this has been discussed here, but I'm uninformed. Are there any pics showing the expoded plane parts or did any witness come forward saying they explicitly saw the plane fly down from the sky into the Pentagon? The media never really addressed this issue....or did they?

take a plane, made of 90% lightweight aircraft Aluminum, and ram it into a brick wall at roughly 500mph. you tell me what -should- be left?

Originally posted by forsakenwayfarertake a plane, made of 90% lightweight aircraft Aluminum, and ram it into a brick wall at roughly 500mph. you tell me what -should- be left?

So what you are saying, is that they know exactly what kind of plane hit the Pentagon? Do you know the model, because I can't foresee a Cessna blowing a hole in a building that big? And do Cessna's (or Piper's) fly at 500mph? Really?

Did any one witness come forward at the Pentagon and report seeing the plane or hearing it approach? It's a huge building, lots of windows

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Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer
take a plane, made of 90% lightweight aircraft Aluminum, and ram it into a brick wall at roughly 500mph. you tell me what -should- be left?

The planes we are told had people on board, i would expect to see bodys, body part's, as the plane enters the building i would have thought the thin skin of the aircraft will have been shredded, the passengers are just inside this skin. I would have expected the explosion we witnessed after each impact to have at least ejected a few bodys, body parts, clothing, suitcases ect ect.

I found a really good web movie on this crash here:

www.freedomunderground.org...

They're saying it was a missile and judging by the photos that's what it looked like.
No plane parts anywhere to be found at all.

Ok, so the airplane crashed into the wall of the pentagon and disintergrates on impact in a huge fireball with enough heat to vapourise it completely, no tail end, wings, seats or bodies.

Yet they claim that 184 of 189 of those killed in the Pentagon attack had been identified from their DNA.

Because of the known effects of heat on biological structures such as proteins and DNA, this makes it very suspicious indeed from a logical viewpoint.

Eyewitness quotes of a few of the many people who saw it crash into the wall of the Pentagon:

Eyewitness Accounts Describe The Moment of the Crash

Steve Anderson -- from 19th floor office in USA TODAY building in Arlington "Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke."

Jeff and Deb Anlauf -- from 14th floor of Sheraton Hotel, 1.6 miles from explosion "Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window. You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). "

Sean Boger -- from heliport control tower "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building. It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."

911research.wtc7.net...
The website also contains the various sources for these quotes.

There was a stopped traffic jam on the freeway beside the Pentagon. Many people saw it and the only people who claim they saw anything else were a very few people who said they thought it was a smaller jet. These very few quotes have been exploited by some who at the same time deny the hundereds of others who saw what was consistent with something similar to an AA 757.

Now Hanjour or any of the other inexperienced 'hijackers' being able to do what was done with that jet just before it struck the Pentagon- thats a whole other issue altogether and extremely unbelievable for me.

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Could this be a government generated piece of propaganda to make us believe?
Check out that film link I posted above. Look at the photos.....no plane parts, small impact area (a 757 would have done alot more damage....alot), the lawn is totally clean. One guy in the above quotes says he saw the wing rip into the ground.....funny, but all photos of the ground show no wingshear disturbance at all. In one of the films, you can actually see the object hitting.......looks like a missile, not at all a plane.

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There are numerous eyewitnessess including a relative (brother I think) of SkepticOverlord.

See this thread if you haven't. It's fascinating. Lot's of witnesses, but many of these statements don't ring true to me.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hello,

Could this be a government generated piece of propaganda to make us believe?

It could. Like the flight 93 phone calls.

There are also people who saw a small corporate jet...
Some also saw a helicopter...

Originally posted by shanti23
Because of the known effects of heat on biological structures such as proteins and DNA, this makes it very suspicious indeed from a logical viewpoint.

Yes very suspicious, we know criminals burn the crime scene to destroy DNA, yet somehow in our case the victims are identified by DNA from a building burnt so bad it melted the steel into swimming pool sized pools underneath the WTC.

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Originally posted by The Links
a building burnt so bad it melted the steel into swimming pool sized pools underneath the WTC.

Swimming pools

Where did that come from?



[edit on 29-3-2006 by HowardRoark]

Originally posted by zerotolerance
My Dad and I were talking about the Charlie Sheen comments and the 911 conspiracy. My Dad claims nobody who was in the Pentagon on 9/11 has come forward saying they saw the plane that supposedly hit the building. I've seen pics of it, but can't see any plane wreckage at all. I'm sure this has been discussed here, but I'm uninformed. Are there any pics showing the expoded plane parts or did any witness come forward saying they explicitly saw the plane fly down from the sky into the Pentagon? The media never really addressed this issue....or did they?

There are tons of threads on the Pentagon crash - all the points you raise have been debated to death. So much so that now we're onto more bizarre and obscure things related to that attack like taxis being moved, analysis of lightpole construction, fire extinguisher outlines, etc, etc

Seriously, go have browse through a few pages and you'll find load of interesting stuff on this

there was a rumour that people at the pentagon were given prepared eye-witness statements to read to the media on what happened.
So even if there are pentagon people, dont make any assumptions.

[edit on 29-3-2006 by AdamJ]

Originally posted by AdamJ
So even if there are pentagon people, dont make any assumptions.

It's sucks that our government as come to a point where the majority of the people in this country don't trust it. My Dad called George Bush an Imperialist lastnight. He's right.
Where's John Wilkes Booth when you need him?

Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer
take a plane, made of 90% lightweight aircraft Aluminum, and ram it into a brick wall at roughly 500mph. you tell me what -should- be left?

The 10% that isn't lightweight aircraft aluminum, maybe?

How about wing spars? 757 has 3 in each wing.

How about engine casings, 2 count, one housed in each engine shroud hanging underneath each wing?

How about the APU? A small jet engine housed in the tail section.

here is a good analysis;
www.physics911.net...

Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer
take a plane, made of 90% lightweight aircraft Aluminum, and ram it into a brick wall at roughly 500mph. you tell me what -should- be left?

Then did the gov't lie when they claimed they recovered 63 of the 64 passengers' bodies and mapped where they found them?

And did they lie about this too:

► Pentagon searchers encounter grisly scenes

"On Tuesday, Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams witnessed a combat zone for the first time in his 11 years of service. He never imagined it would be inside the Pentagon. One of the first recovery personnel to enter the crippled headquarters building after a hijacked Boeing 757 smashed into it, the urban search-and-rescue specialist found a gruesome sight. "If anyone has ever burned a pot roast, they'll know what the victims looked like," Williams, 30, said Thursday after another 12-hour shift of searching for 190 bodies — those of 126 missing Pentagon personnel and the 64 aboard the doomed jetliner.

When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.

As of Thursday morning, search teams had recovered 70 bodies. The remains were being carried by helicopter to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to be identified." -USA Today (09/13/01)

Btw, I think they lied about recovering that passengers as well as a 100 ton 757 crashing there too!

Originally posted by zerotolerance
Where's John Wilkes Booth when you need him?

Haven't you heard? He died back in 1865. You can read all about this event here. Even if he hadn't had an untimely death, he would have been dead from age no doubt. Ironically he was killed by a gunshot wound to the back of the head.

Do try to pick villians that are still alive to do your bidding. Unless of course you have some sort of zombie powder and know the location of the coward's grave.

this is the best video i have seen on what happend on 9-11. this guy has done his homework so definatly check this one out.


video.google.com...