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May i ask you what your standpoint is on religion ?

From only the 2 post's i have read that were made by yourself you seem to be very very knolegable.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

Originally posted by welivefortheson
reply to post by undo

 

you assume that the species that has been interfering speaks for all the rest.

there may be bad ET's interfering with earth,but i also believe there would be good ones trying to make up for the bad they do.

secondly humans interfere with other species continiously,on a massive industrial scale.we manipulate the genome of many animals for our benift dont we?,we do all the things you phantasize ET's are doing.

you are presuposing that rule,how do you know it exists?,you are dictating the laws of the universe to suit your own agenda.

and lastly,genetic manipulations and all the other things you mention...how do you know?,wheres the proof?,there just pure suggestions you are citing for propaganda reasons.

I agree there are probably good ones too, but since you and I don't get to make that judgement call, and the ones involved are only officiailly outing themselves to our world leaders, well, you can fill in the rest of the details.

Yes, the manipulation of other species and animals is all part and parcel of the design. The guys at the top are totally involved in it. Historically, the leaders of the world were nephilim (human hybrids), so why would that change today just because we are more enlightened?

I'm not just presupposing it, it's in the ancient texts. They were not supposed to interfer with our development. Read the Book of 1 Enoch.

Genetic manipulation? you don't see the hundreds of thousands of artifacts depecting various hybrids? Today they tell you that's just a myth. But they are talking out of both sides of their mouths, because while they say that was just a myth, they are growing human ears on the backs of mice.

Originally posted by h3akalee
May i ask you what your standpoint is on religion ?

From only the 2 post's i have read that were made by yourself you seem to be very very knolegable.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

I'm a non-denominational christian. I just go where the research leads me and of course, I pray that I won't be lead into falsehood. If I'm wrong, well I'm wrong. But the amount of research required is so huge (1000s of years of info) I don't know if I'll ever be able to do it justice.

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i see now that its not ET's that threaten religious beliefs,ET's are being used to serve religious belief.

all the best you,may you learn to be less judgemental and quell your human pride.your being lied to.

Originally posted by welivefortheson
reply to post by undo

 

i see now that its not ET's that threaten religious beliefs,ET's are being used to serve religious belief.

all the best you,may you learn to be less judgemental and quell your human pride.your being lied to.

Well you believe that our current purveyors of knowledge (the universities) are providing you with correct data regarding the ancient past? This is how they handle it: IT'S A MYTH. That's right sweety. For thousands of years, all our ancient history was a myth until today, when they only tell the truth.

What they've basically done is convince millions of people the world over that the ETs who nearly wiped us out as a species, don't even exist! Not only that, they've convinced millions of people the world over that all our ancient ancestors were liars, hallucinating or so incredibly stupid they thought the planets were beings who came to visit them (?!?!?!) and that's why it's a myth because planets don't visit people (!?!?!!!). They were THAT stupid, but they were smart enough to build the Great Pyramid (just the adminstration of that undertaking would be way out of the realm of the level of intellect we are told these people had at the time)! The lies are rampant!

You know some folks think that if you say our current history books are a mess that you must be a judgemental person. What they don't realize is our history books are calling everyone from the ancient past, hallucinating idiots and power hungry madmen. Just our ancestors had this problem.

For example, they've concluded that the following texts are pure fantasy and not a word of truth is in them:

-Torah
-Tanakh
-Talmud
-Book of IEnoch
-Book of Giants
-Book of Jasher
-Old Testament
-New Testament
-Apocrypha
-Koran (Quran)
-Mahabharata
-Rig Veda
-Upanishads
-The Books of Yu
-Book of the Dead
-Book of Gates
-Book of What is in the Du'at
-Book of Caves
-Shabaka Stone
-Enki and the World Order
-Enlil in the Ekur
-Enki's journey to Nibru
-Inana's journey to the underworld
-Ishtar's journey to the netherworld
-the oral histories of the Australian Aborigines
-the oral histories of the Native American Indians (North America)
-Popul Vuh
-Viracoccha and the Coming of the Incas
-Iliad of Homer
-Odyssey of Homer
-Shri Guru Granth Sahib
And so on and so on.

All those people are liars! ? And I'm judgemental?

The "Nephilim" (those that came down), written about in such biblical texts where here already before adam and eve were introduced.

Several aspects of such biblical texts all by point with neon signs that the story is incompleat. However too many fearfilled fools that believe in an inputent god believe they are all the "evil" devils that rull over all of creation. This could not be more distanced from the truth.

I believe in an all powerful God. I God that is in control of all things and a God that all things subject themselves to. That truest state of God gives free will to all beings to reject their creator or to follow after the will of their creator.

"Aliens" introduced "life" to this planet such as a religious person whom gives money to a poor person in the name of God works for God.

There were beings, now known as Nephilim, that were placed in charge over the creation. They rebelled against the truest nature of God and so began the battle of "Finding God" here on earth.

Just because a extreamly small percentage of "alien beings" rebelled against god and started foolishness here on this planet doesn't equate to all "alien beings" being "evil" or "devils". Such is the creation of animalistic (beast) fears and an ingorance matched only by religion itself.

Hello again undo.

Do you beleive in being's not from this earth ?

If so do you think of them as being evil ?

I think im a little confused on a few thing's here.

Regards
Lee

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ETs do not serve our religious belief. They are not extra terrestrial , but inter dimensional, and they've been around since the dawn of time.

If you are a UFO researcher you know Jacques Valle' is considered one of the best. In his book Confrontations he says, "The medical examinations to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of medieval tales of encounters with demons"

It's Genesis six repeating itself! "As in the Days of Noah so shall the coming of the Son of man be"

Want to read something else Non Christian how about how they ain'y here to help....
Lears Aliens
"In order to sustain themselves they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion obtained from the tissue that they extract from humans and animals. (Note: Cows and Humans are genetically similar. In the event of a national disaster, cow's blood can be used by humans.)" -John Lear


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The term Nephilim ( see Enoch & Genesis 6 ) only applies to the offspring of the Angels and humans - they are the heros of old men of renown - many were giants -- ancient mythology is based on them -- Hercules etc..

demons have no bodies they are not fallen angels but the spirits of the Nephilim that were killed in the flood.

Not the Angels themselves. Huge difference. Only 1/3 of them rebelled they aren't all evil. We just call them Angels - but they are not of this earth - so call them Aliens if you want.

Originally posted by h3akalee
Hello again undo.

Do you beleive in being's not from this earth ?

If so do you think of them as being evil ?

I think im a little confused on a few thing's here.

Regards
Lee

Yes, I believe there are other races created by God that we typically call Extra-terrestrials or Aliens (some appear to actually be from this planet. i theorize we weren't from here, hence the garden of Eden was elsewhere). I don't think they are all evil. I think some of them are evil. I think the evil ones use technology to mimic acts of God, as the two things are nearly indistinguishable to human beings.

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Enki, from the sumerian texts, is considered by many to be the sumerian equivalent of the biblical satan. His name means LORD EARTH. This is probably his planet, which is why he tried to give it to Jesus in exchange for his fealty. He is also called the Great Dragon by the sumerian texts, which is the biblical moniquer given to Satan in the Book of Revelation, a book written some 4000 years later, when the sumerian civilization was already buried under several feet of dirt and rock.

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God creates all created beings. If the "fallen angels" came down and make freakish children with the men of this world, this doesn't not taint the children. Only fools think that. It's the act of the rejection of the creator's will that is the sin of each individual, it has nothing to do with birth rite.

besides, you need to look into the term deeper. In some contexts the term actually means "those that came down" not only the children but the original beings.

Sitchin, an author who has written several texts on the subject of the sumerians and their gods, believes that Enki. who Sitchin believes was the biblical Satan, saved the human race from near annihilation by Enlil, who Sitchin thinks is the biblical Jehovah. However, reading all the texts available, shows a different picture.

Enki warned the nephilim king of Sumer of the approaching flood.
Enlil warned the humans.
Enlil's decision to flood the earth was to an attempt to save humans from complete annihilation. There were already very few of us left, as we were tampered with genetically and were dying from rampant disease and pollution off the richter scale. The planet was so heavily polluted, plants wouldn't grow and the animal genome was no longer edible. People were starving to death enmasse and this includes the nephilim. so the nephilim began a food program in which they began to eat the remaining healthy humans, the ones that weren't dying or dead from disease.

In short, the ET plan to make us a super race was really a cover to wipe us out entirely, but only after we had outlived our usefulness. According to prophecy, this will all happen again in the last days of this planet. The hybrid population will grow, the humans will be relegated to poverty and disease, and be used via mass brainwashing, into believing that anyone that doesn't go along with the plan, apparently doesn't want the human race to ascend. Shortly thereafter, the whole thing goes to hell in a handbasket.

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Sitchin isn't as relyable as people make him out to be as he takes the sumerian texts and looks at them outside the larger context of the world story.

Originally posted by Incarnated
Sitchin isn't as relyable as people make him out to be as he takes the sumerian texts and looks at them outside the larger context of the world story.

Exactly, but I AM looking at it in the larger context. I'm incorporating all the ancient texts in this research.

Take for example, the Mahabharata. Ever read about the wars of the gods?
Humans were the real casualities.

Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by Bigwhammy

 

God creates all created beings. If the "fallen angels" came down and make freakish children with the men of this world, this doesn't not taint the children. Only fools think that. It's the act of the rejection of the creator's will that is the sin of each individual, it has nothing to do with birth rite.

besides, you need to look into the term deeper. In some contexts the term actually means "those that came down" not only the children but the original beings.

The problem is, God created races with spirit bodies and resurrectable physical bodies. The hybrid bodies were unresurrectable. They are stuck in spirit form for the duration, so they try to inhabit people (these are typically thought of as demons, entities that try to inhabit other people or animals). This is why the biblical texts refer to the nephilim as the walking dead and the undead and why Gilgamesh was in such a panic when he realized that even though he was a very powerful hybrid, when his fleshly body died, it wouldn't be resurrectable. You can see his lament in the Epic of Gilgamesh

Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Incarnated

 

The term Nephilim ( see Enoch & Genesis 6 ) only applies to the offspring of the Angels and humans - they are the heros of old men of renown - many were giants -- ancient mythology is based on them -- Hercules etc..

demons have no bodies they are not fallen angels but the spirits of the Nephilim that were killed in the flood.

Not the Angels themselves. Huge difference. Only 1/3 of them rebelled they aren't all evil. We just call them Angels - but they are not of this earth - so call them Aliens if you want.

Hercules and the Giants

Zeus wasn't always the king of the Greek gods. Ouranos was the king of the first generation of gods, but he was overthrown by Kronos, who was his son. Kronos was father to Zeus and the Olympians, and he, too, was overthrown by his son. Even after Zeus took charge, succeeding generations and different races of gods still competed for control of Olympus.

While Zeus was establishing himself, the Earth gave birth to a new, monstrous set of gods, the Giants, which were fathered by the Sky. The Giants were as tall as mountains and so strong as to be unbeatable. The Olympian gods were anthropomorphic, which means that they looked a lot like human men and women. But the Giants were frightening to look at. According to Apollodorus, their shaggy hair drooped from their heads and chins, and they had dragon scales on their feet.

The mightiest Giants were Porphyrion and Alkyoneus. Alkyoneus could remain immortal as long as he fought in the land of his birth, Pallene, in the region of Thrace. A bold troublemaker, Alkyoneus dared to steal some cows owned by the Sun. The Giants tossed house-sized boulders and burning oak trees at Mount Olympus to pass the time. They were not yet ready for an all-out attack.

Long ago the gods had received an oracle, or prediction of the future. This oracle declared that the gods could kill the Giants only if they had the help of a mortal. This mortal was Hercules. The Earth, who was the mother of the Giants, learned this too, and she tried to prevent Hercules from going to help the gods.

Read more here:
with pictures too!

www.perseus.tufts.edu...

I am afraid Chuck Missler oversimplified parts of the Bible and of Myths and whatever he used in his research, to the point he might be making grave mistakes when he will extend his research, because he is paying little attention in the details.

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You are projecting your humanity onto the story. I don't see that at all. I don't see that the "war of the gods" hurt humans in this day or age at all.

What I see when I read such a thing is the compleat falure of the rebelion.

The rebelious 'king/gods', "Aliens", thought they'd do okay without following the true law of the one, the universal laws of the original creator God, creator of all and God's established Governmentship of the universes.

They thought they'd do okay. However only after a short time of the rebelion against the creator they started rebeling against eachother too. They introduced chaos into their ranks. I also feel an element of the story represents the beings that are still the "followers of the one law".

I see the rebelion crumbling in no time at all. That is why we must all stay our place in the creator God and not follow after our own will.

The Most High Creator God, could have wiped away the rebelion away with a though or action, but how much more powerful in the context of universal understandings is it to do nothing as let the result of such filty works prove itself.

You see it as mankind being hurt? I see it as mankind having a dule or more injection of other being DNA introduced into a new species.

It's all in the way you look at it.

And as the people perished, their cries went up to Heaven.
the earth was filled with lawlessness. these are not just ideas
randomly placed on the paper. lawlessness can mean any
number of things including not paying attention to the laws of
nature - you know those annoying bits of data about what is and
isn't fit for human consumption, how to treat the environment,
and so on?

if these gods were as ascended as they pretended to be, why'd they
encourage us threw their nephilim prodigy, to create war machines
so deadly, that they were capable of destroying all life on the planet?

i just don't understand the dichotomy.