Are Iraqi Insurgents getting Desperate?

It looks like there might be a possibility that the Insurgents are getting real desperate and in need of men.

Yesterday 100 insurgents attacked a jail NE of Baghdad and they freed 30 prisoners. Today in Baghdad another smaller group attacked another area trying to release more only this time Iraqi and US forces captured 50 insurgents.



I could be wrong but it looks like they are in need of men, what other reason would they have for making several attempts in recent weeks?



[edit on 3/22/2006 by shots]

Maybe the men in the prison were their comrades? So they wanted to release their comrades? If your brother-in-arms were captured, wouldn't you want to attempt to release them as well?

I would hardly call it desperate, more like trying to get there buddies back from the terrorists.

Originally posted by Beachcoma
If your brother-in-arms were captured, wouldn't you want to attempt to release them as well?

Of course I would if they were my fellow members of the armed forces, but then unlike those jerks, my firends do not drive around car bombing innocient people.

Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by Beachcoma
If your brother-in-arms were captured, wouldn't you want to attempt to release them as well?

Of course I would if they were my fellow members of the armed forces, but then unlike those jerks, my firends do not drive around car bombing innocient people.

No they just bomb innocent children cowardly from planes, or machine gun down houses full of people uh... Much more respectable.

Its not a suprise you would see it as an act of desperation being you Americans think your so great and powerfull. Looks to me like the "terrorists" are rubbing your noses in the dirt they have bought the bodies of so many of you cowardly invaders too. You cant control the green zone, you cant keep your illegal POW so what chance do you have of controlling Iraq at all.

Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by Beachcoma
If your brother-in-arms were captured, wouldn't you want to attempt to release them as well?

Of course I would if they were my fellow members of the armed forces, but then unlike those jerks, my firends do not drive around car bombing innocient people.

Like HR said, they probably see US forces as 'jerks' who go around bombing innocent people. I mean from their perspective, the US are the invaders. From their perspective they are just trying to drive out the invaders. From their perspective, they are the good guys.

So from their perspective, the 'enemy' has captured their 'fellow members' of their resistance, and they are just attempting to 'liberate' their friends.

So your logic is, the first day 100 people are successful getting their mates out of jail, that's an anomaly.

But the next day, when they try it again, and they are caught, that's a revelation?

has anyone considered that if you were a prisoner in Iraq your (mine included) country wouldnt do squat to get you out

We dont do deals with "terrorists"

No they are not desperate, if they were, they would have fought to the death, not surrender like they just did when finally realize they couldn't free their comrades in the next day so easily while not getting caught or killed.

Originally posted by nukunuku
has anyone considered that if you were a prisoner in Iraq your (mine included) country wouldnt do squat to get you out

We dont do deals with "terrorists"

Yes we do not deal with terrorists, but that does not mean we will not do everything in our power to rescue someone.

Bosnia is a good example pilots were shot down yet they were rescued.

Also US navy seals and special forces have a policy of no man left behind which includes bringing back the dead if possible.

Another example would be the rescue of PFC Lynch and 6 others who were captured and held prisoner in Iraq. Seven U.S. Soldiers Rescued, Released From Hospital; Marines Battle in TikritWe went in and rescued them . I am sure there are other examples but those are the ones that come to mind immediately.

Frankly I think the insurgents are desperate for men that is why the sudden efforts to rescue their members.

don't get started on the charade and staged pr move in the "rescuing" of private Lynch.

As for the insurgents rescuing their own, why wouldn't they. Doesn't show any desperation IMO.

Originally posted by sensfan
don't get started on the charade and staged pr move in the "rescuing" of private Lynch.

Charade my butt they freed her that is a fact, just ask her or any of the other 6.

Originally posted by sensfan
As for the insurgents rescuing their own, why wouldn't they. Doesn't show any desperation IMO.

It sure does as far as I am concerned. How many attempts have we heard about in the past? Zip, Nodda. Now if they had made attempts in the past you would have a point, but in this case you have none

[edit on 3/22/2006 by shots]

Not hardly!!! What better way to create more chaos and crime than to release all the local prisoners. The only thing it can do is create more problems for our military. Remember that the enemy of the local people is the enemy of ours as well, doesn't matter how they became that enemy or what kind of enemy.

I don´t think the raids are becasue of any lack of men, we all know there is a constant suuply from Native Iraqis, whos families have been killed by american bombs and soldiers, Iranians, Syrians, Jordanians, Saudis. The list go´s on. They are showing up the Iraqi army and police as being totally ineffective with the hope of keeping the Americans in Iraq as long as poss, As well as releasing comrades and normal prisioners such as murderers rapists and peadophiles( I say normal.........)

Originally posted by shotsYes we do not deal with terrorists, but that does not mean we will not do everything in our power to rescue someone.

Bosnia is a good example pilots were shot down yet they were rescued.

Since when did Bosnians become terrorists?

hmm, doesnt seem much like desperation. IMO they should do it more, finally rounding them up. Its like they want us out so bad...but like if they'd just stop pulling their crap then we'd probably leave.

shots,

I think there is some desperation, and it was also somewhat of a show.

I also think that the "insurgency" is great at using our own media.
It was reported (and repeated) by our own media, how well planned that first rescue was.

The insurgency doesn't need a PR department..Not when we have American media, and lots of Amercian citizens.to report, and repeat ANYTHING that can be construed as a failure of our military, and/or the current administration.

After all, it's all about "free speech", right?

I understand the need for this kind of reporting. I just wish so many weren't drooling in anticipation for the next reason to jump on the anti-american bandwagon. It's not good for the soldiers, or the families of the soldiers.
It's irresponsible.

[edit on 22-3-2006 by spacedoubt]