Why does the government hide things out of this world?

Just wondering, As too what would provoke the government into hiding things like Ufo's aliens from other planets? I know its started a long time ago but why would you hide somthing that could be so beneficial to the planet? Or the reason why they would cover our eyes for us in a smoke screen of B.S they feed us in ever clear evidence of an object that defies gravity too the point where it would be considered immposible by human technology.

When will the human race grow up into somthing that is not bent on self destruction and killing? Sad thing is the Human Era is a very short lived one at the pace we are going at.

Initially this was to prevent hysteria, what were people gonna do if they suddenly heard for sure there were Aliens visiting us?

But later it was more than likely due to a more sinister reason, even though we could handle the prospect of alien life (most of us anyway) but perhaps they know that if the public knows that the government has technology that could revolutionize the world they will no longer have the power and control they have now!

If there was such a thing as free energy, an alternative to fossil fuels and anti-gravitity there could be major reprecussions on economics and the power the government have over people.

I believe that all this denial and pussyfooting is done in order to control people. It is great to deny something that lacks all evidence. Imagine a situation where something like this would leak out. It would change forever the way any of us see this world. There would be no basis for religion or history even. I believe that it is in the best interest of a group controlling people.

Originally posted by Nordman
It would change forever the way any of us see this world. There would be no basis for religion or history even.

Just out of interest, how do you come to that specific conclusion? I really don't see what you mean.

There are many reasons as to why the government hides these things..The main reason is because there would be riots if people were to find out aliens suddenly existed. Another problem would be...it would change the way people would think...and the world in that matter.

The government does do a lot of bad things behind our backs...but this one is the least sinister. In fact, it is a good thing. But then it is a bad thing as well. Personally I don't care if aliens visit us, one way or another we will find out eventually...I'd say around 2012 or before that time.

Originally posted by apex

Originally posted by Nordman
It would change forever the way any of us see this world. There would be no basis for religion or history even.

Just out of interest, how do you come to that specific conclusion? I really don't see what you mean.

Well.... Imagine what would happen to say christianity. It basically denies life outside our world. God made man and woman, as a self image. What would happen if aliens came? Would the whole bible be false?

Many things in our history is based on religion. Could we argue that Jesus was an alien? Since we often define ourself trough history and if history's rug is being pulled what happens then?

The main reason is because there would be riots if people were to find out aliens suddenly existed.

Why would that be. For most of our history it was generally accepted that aliens existed. For a long time, it was widely thought that there was a civilization on mars.

I honestly don't think there would be riots at all if there was disclosure of some sort. Why would there be? I think most people would be too awestruck to do anything but stand there with their jaw on the ground.

They will tell you that you are being protected, and they are telling to the truth, to an extent. Some will still deny, even when they walk in their footprints themselves.

Don't blame your leaders too much for this. Somewhere twitching amidst the lies is the truth; that you are not prepared for exposure as of this day.

And, they are right. In this time your children struggle to grasp the most elementary of concepts. The presence of an entity unlike your own would tear the very fabric of that which your people have sewn so delicately.

Imagine placing one of your dogs before a computing device and asking him to understand even the rudimentary elements of what is, by our standards, a laughably simplistic technological component. He thinks only of his next meal, his next carnal experience or his next excercise. This works for you, the keepers of these animals, in the same way it works for them.

They are waiting to extend the first hand... and not through your government... that makes expotentially little difference to them. They wait for their seeds to bud and blossom, and when they come, they only pick the ripest of the fruits. Be patient my friends. That which you seek cannot be found at this time. Enjoy the clues, laugh at the lies and immerse yourself in the glory of speculation. The taste of the truth will be so much sweeter.

Seen,

What is there to know about ET that we can't handle? That ET has fancier space craft than we do? That they travel from dimension to dimension? That they are smarter than us? That they are less violent than we are? That they are better creatures than us?

What is the hold up? I personally can handle the truth about UFO's. I will not run amok or quit my job as the bills still have to be paid.

It's really aggravating to keep hearing that ET is so advanced that what? What? If they have nicer technologies than we do, I can handle that. If they are smarter than we are, I can handle that. If they are more peaceful than we are, I can handle that. If they can offer medical breakthroughs that will improve our lives, I can handle that. What's the big hold-up in revealing themselves to us. It's insulting to my intelligence and everybody else's intelligence when we hear the same old excuses over and over about disclosure. Hell, ET can reveal themselves anytime they like. Our government could tell us what they know anytime.

Somebody is making money off of this situation. It stinks to high heaven of profiteering and corruption. Why would ET knowingly allow that? Do they know it? The questions become increasingly frustrating!

It's all about control. They'll let it come out slowly. Remember how the Catholic Church suppressed the bit about the Earth revolving around the sun for (200?) years.

Same deal when releasing new, groundbreaking technologies... they release them slowly in small increments over time. Otherwise the new technologies would devastate the markets.

Originally posted by Nordman


Well.... Imagine what would happen to say christianity. It basically denies life outside our world. God made man and woman, as a self image. What would happen if aliens came? Would the whole bible be false?

Many things in our history is based on religion. Could we argue that Jesus was an alien? Since we often define ourself trough history and if history's rug is being pulled what happens then?

nowhere does the bible deny any other worlds/creatures. so therefore it realy wouldn't have too much of an impact other than for scholers to look for clues that may be in the bible. true many might decide that it means that the bible is false but then again many of those same people already think that anyway.

I think if we get the real answer to this question, it will be really simple and make sense.

Is it just convenient not to tell us?

Ecto,

Yes, it's very inconvenient for the corporate bastards that took over the United States government to reveal that we have better sources of energy available to us right now! If corrupt government, big pharma, Exxon and their co-conspirators will get out of the way, unfettered capitalism can and will clean up the mess that has been made of our economy.

I wish ET would go around the government and take their case straight to the people. We can assume that ET has figured it out that our world leaders are not trustworthy. They've figured out the same is true for all our religious leaders.

I couldn't tell them who to contact here on this planet. Who would be worthy to hear ET's message and communicate back on behalf of humanity? I'm beginning to feel that's a very relevant question that will need to be decided. Any ideas anyone?

I tend to agree that this information is kept silent for national security reasons; public belief in UFO phenomena provides excellent cover for classified projects.

Furthermore, assuming a crash--or trade--has occurred, secrecy and denial allow the government time to reverse-engineer any technology obtained, giving a competitive advantage over rival states, or at the least, keeping them from gaining one over the west.

For example: When the air force dispatched an investigation team to Roswell NM, the investigating captain reportedly collected some smaller pieces of the wreckage, bringing them home for further inspection. Either him, or his son, mention that the pieces exhibited unusual behavior; bending back into position when heated or altered, self-repairing of scratches on the surface, etc. A few years back, I remember some media reports that research in materials-science had begun to garner these same technologies. Feel free to investigate the accuracy of this information, as it is all from memory. As a sideline, it just occurred to me the benefit of self-repairing and memory metals in space hyper-propulsion--deflecting and repairing minor damage done to the skin or hull colliding with dust particles and other small debris.

Also, I assume that the U.S.--or any other government--has not invested a lot of money into the social effects such an announcement would have on the general population. To do so would be an implied confession of sorts; or maybe they have, hence the silence.

In short, there are too many reasons to keep the information secret, and too few to release it.

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I can just imagine it now...

*Government Officials in a government meeting*

Jack: So, anything important we should be telling the public?
Bill: That aliens really exist and we've known about it for years?
Whole room: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*Jack wipes a tear from his eye*
Jack: Hahaha, good one Bill.
Bill: Yeah

*Government Officials in a Government Meeting*

Jack: Sir, three airliners have shifted course unexpectedly, one of which is on a course to the Pentagon; they refuse to answer our communications--should we scramble the fighters for an interception?
Bill: No. Airliners often deviate from pre-set flight plans with no warning or reason and refuse to respond to communications even as they rocket toward the symbol of our global power; all standard procedure, carry on.

Indeed, stranger things have happend.

Why would there be riots if the public were made aware of the existence of extraterrestrial life? What would be the point of SETI if there were already aliens here? Why would we be flying that dilapidated old Shuttle if we had reverse-engineered alien technology?

They aren't here and they never have been, unless of course you are speaking of the supermaterial inhabitants of and visitors to our planet who don't need material craft to get about.

I believe that some people in the world could handle it, but I agree that the religious folks would have a mental meltdown. There would be a wide spread breakdown of society. People would stop going to work, paying bills and would be a lot less prone to listen to the human government. It would be the single most important and definately the most powerful revelation in the history of man kind.

Another reason could be perhaps the fact that one government, maybe the U.S., that has already made contact with alien visitors, want sole access to the new technology and in turn are keeping it a hush hush secret until they have full working knowledge of it's use. This would provide quite an upperhand when dealing with enemy nations and would definately assure military world dominance. Perhaps our government has some unholy alliance already arranged with the visitors, in exchange for, I don't know, a free ticket to abduct citizens at will under complete cover and anonymity? Just a thought.

but I agree that the religious folks would have a mental meltdown

Why is that. I consider myself to be fairly religious. I seriously doubt I would have any problem at all finding out aliens actually exist. I can't think of anyone I know personally that I consider to be religious, that I feel would have a meltdown about the issue. I don't think that the existance of aliens contradict my beliefs at all.

The ones I think would have a meltdown and geek out about it are the ones that believe they are already here. Especially the paranoid Iche et al followers.

Most of the polls I've seen show that most Americans believe that alien life exists.

A few quotes from

www.space.com...

nearly two-thirds of Americans believe that some form of alien life exists somewhere in the universe

Of those who believed, most agreed that they would be “excited and hopeful” upon learning of the discovery of extraterrestrial life while 90 percent of them said Earth should reply to any message from another planet, the poll reported.

About eight of 10 Americans believe it is likely that intelligent aliens on other planets are more advanced than humans

The poll also reported that belief in alien life did not split across political lines, but did vary depending on religious practices. Democrats and Republicans were equally likely to believe in life on other planets, while regular churchgoers were less likely to believe in extraterrestrial life (about 46 percent) than non-churchgoers (about 70 percent), the poll stated.

Got any sort of evidence to back up your claims of mental meltdowns amongst religious folks or people stopping working and paying bills etc.. or are you just saying this because that is what you would do?



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The reason that I believe that deeply religious people would have a "meltdown" as I put it is that I believe that their belief system and their self image would suffer the most, having been confronted with proof that their religion and their entire identity could very well be a complete sham. Im sure in a scenario like this there would be plenty of panic and mayhem to go around. Not bashing religious people, but I feel that non religious people tend to be more open minded and already accepting of such notions as alien life, while religious people by and large write it off and tend to oppose such ideas.

I am not in a position to provide "evidence" of this as it is a completely hypothetical situation and nothing more than speculation on my part based on my past experiences. Nobody really KNOWS what would happen in a case like this until it actually occurs. So until then all that we are able to provide is personal opinion

Most of the polls I've seen show that most Americans believe that alien life exists.

It is one thing to hope, pr even to believe half heartedly in something of this magnitude. It is quite another situation entirely to be confronted face to face with pure, hard evidence (ie an alien craft or being). I don't think that people by and large would be as well recieving and accepting as they claim they would be. If nothing else, I have learned overall that humans tend to fear and resent that which they do not understand. And that is a LOT to lay on the average chimp brained human being, certainly for many, more than they could handle.