Classified Counter-Terrorist units?

Ive always been interested in topics concerning Counter-Terrorist/Emergency Response units from around the world. But something that ive always wondered was if there are any units that are so classified that their existence is only rumored? I know that Delta Force's existence was always denied by the government until recently but im curiouse as to whether there are units that are higher and more secret then them. Any information would be appreciated.

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www.milnet.com...

nuclear emergency search teams.

These lads have the un-enviable job of defusing nuclear terror weapons.....


Im going to leave you two words. You'll have to do the digging.

kite Teams.

Thank you sir. Im always amazed at some of the stuff that ATS members know.

Heres a Guardian article from the UK.

Its old (2003) but have a look..

www.guardian.co.uk...

Israeli teams teaching US forces assassination and CQB skills.

Task Force 121..

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specialoperations.com...

have a read through this page... its a good SOC site.

www.washtimes.com...

A bit more on Task Force 121 and its workings..

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Well I don't think that anyone here would know something that secret and if they did they probably could not and would not tell. I think the SAS do a little counter-terrorism; I think the best is still the fictional, but extremly cool, Rainbow 6.

saying the SAS do a little counter terrorism is like saying the USS REGAN is a quite big boat...

OK laugh over. The SAS are incredably well trained and organised in the anti terror arena, along side the SBS they are the two finest units of their type world wide.

But, there are others out there that are trained and motivated to almost the same levels.

Oh and im sure you'll know all about these lads - Commachio Group, Royal Marines. Nuclear Protection teams and oil field protection.

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actaully i just finished reading rainbow six and thats what gave me the idea for making this thread.

Ive done some digging on those Kite Teams you've mentioned and found virtually nothing. I even asked some of my pals in the Spec ops community who were not aware of them. Any more info would be appreciated.

Originally posted by MadGreebo
Heres a Guardian article from the UK.

Its old (2003) but have a look..

www.guardian.co.uk...

Israeli teams teaching US forces assassination and CQB skills.

Task Force 121..

[edit on 10-3-2006 by MadGreebo]

specialoperations.com...

have a read through this page... its a good SOC site.

www.washtimes.com...

A bit more on Task Force 121 and its workings..

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yes specialoperations.com is an excellent source for spec ops information. Ive also a member of their discussion board, very interesting stuff.

I also hold a membership on that discussion board, among a scant few others of the type.
As such, if'in you were a member, then you would have known of 'Task Force 121,' which btw, is the unit, among an other I will not name, that Clancey used to model his Rainbow Six.






seekerof

Well I knew that the SAS did counter-terrorism work but not exactly how much, I also just finished reading Rainbow 6 today.

Originally posted by Seekerof
I also hold a membership on that discussion board, among a scant few others of the type.
As such, if'in you were a member, then you would have known of 'Task Force 121,' which btw, is the unit, among an other I will not name, that Clancey used to model his Rainbow Six.






seekerof

And I did know of Task Force 121, but their not a "rumored" CT unit. There existence has been known for a few years now. But, i was not aware that Clancey used them to model his Rainbow Six book, you learn something new everyday.

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I think there's a special task force to deal with Alien encouters, something like the game FEAR.

I read it on Popular Mechanics.

most likely if there are any truly classified counter-terrorism units then when they are on operations they will wear the uniform of a non classified counter-terrorism unit.

Justin

Theres rumours of a unit called UNIT 13 here in the UK. Not to be confused with 14 Int corp (Intelligence / Special Operations teams).

UNIT 13 is said to be the last resort. If it needs to be done deniable and dirty, these are the people to get it done. Most rumoured members are ex- SAS/SBS/ SIS members. A very very nasty lot by all accounts.

its an idea i got out a fiction book but i think its worth thinking about. in the book MI5 need some dirty/deniable work doing so they hired some ex SAS/SBS soldiers to do it for them.

They are the perfect people for the jobs. Well trained, recently retired so still fairly fit, if anything goes wrong they are compleatly deniable.

Justin

There is the secret Red Cell counter-terrorist team, this is what Metal Gear Solid 2's Dead Cell is based on but in reality they are just former spec-ops people too like Task Force 121.

There is also Delta-Force, they are rumored to be some anti-alien team or alien recovery team, but on occasion their "services" are requested for conventional tasks or atleast that's what was rumored.

Yeah I also love Rainbow Six, I played Rogue Spear and own most expansions for it too, Rainbow Six 3 kinda sucked though compared to the original Rainbow Six and Rogue Spear, Raven Shield just kinda rubbed me as being designed for kids/teenagers or something, dunno why, it just felt rough and unfinished, I haven't played Lockdown though.

wasn't there all this rumor of a group called silver fox or grey wolf (can't remember right now) that are supposed to be ex spec ops train for assasinations and the like, dont know if this is the other unit seekerof was refering to, or if it was a code name for task force 121. there was a lot of talk about the silver fox(grey wolf) group a couple of years ago, I'm sure somebody here would know whom I'm talking about.

There's also the DEVGRU maritime counter-terrorism unit.

Unit 13 is the Increment

Single operatives. Ex UK SAS and SBS working for MI6

Red Cell, if I recall correctly, are actually a unit of specially trained SEAL's who excel in infilitration tactics (entering buildings, bases, etc.) and the like. Though that doesnt mean that the stuff they do does not indeed include anti/counter-terrorism operations.

DEVGRU, on the other hand, are mainly believed to be a strict CT unit, as they formed when ST6 (the Navy's maritime CT unit) disbanded in the early 90's. Most of the details behind their operations, even their existance remains classfied although small amounts of information can be obtained if you look for it.

There are also the newly formed M.S.F (Maritime/Mobile Security Force) detachments of the U.S Navy. It's actually what I plan on transfering into after my first enlistment... Anyways, there isnt too much information readily available online (I'd say not so much because it's classified but because the units are relativly new) but they are, or are atleast trained for CT/AT operations, as well as high value DoD asset security.