Costs of US attack on Iran enormous, says Gary Sick

Did Israel get approval to go through Jordanian or Saudi airspace to attack Iraq? The answer is no and they did it anyway.

It would indeed be harder then the Osirak operation but anyone that thinks its out of Israeli's capablities to strike that far is in for a big surprise. About a big of a shock as people in Iran that think their "Harden" nuclear sites are invincible to attack. They think they are deep, boy are they in for a surprise.

Why do we have to die because of Israels mistakes?George Bush is nothing but a zionist lapdog!I am probably going to be called an anti semite but I truly despise the nation of Israel they have caused the world nothing but civil unrest and misery.Why should we have to die for a group whose main religious holy book the Torah refers to all non jews as livestock basically?Israel is not worth ww3.Hitler was right.Call me an anti semite and a Nazi if you want and insult me I don't really care.If caring more about my family and loved ones than the state of Israel makes me a bad person so be it.We would have perfect world peace without three things Russia,China,and Israel.

Originally posted by OrchidLunar
Call me an anti semite and a Nazi if you want and insult me I don't really care.If caring more about my family and loved ones than the state of Israel makes me a bad person so be it.We would have perfect world peace without three things Russia,China,and Israel.

Wow such an immense level of ignorance shown here. Do you even know anything about the area? Since 47 who has started the wars in the ME? Israel or their Arab neighbors? Who commits acts of terrorism? Who can't get along with not only Jews, but Christians, or Hindus?

Have fun wearing your white sheets and hoods at your little parties.

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Ignorance?Typical liberal you throw insults if anyone dares to question your precious Israel.That is ignorance.I'm tired of the fact that anyone that dares to look at history in a different way and tries to see past the lies the victors of the second world war will always be viciously attacked by leftists or that anyone that questions Israels policies and ways of dealing with its neighbours or judaism in general is viciously attacked.It has often been said the United States had no allies in the middle east before Israel but it surely had no enemies either.Without Israel no 911 would have ever happened,no "war on terror",no Palestinian children bombed with F16's for throwing stones.Lets see how much you support them if their disgusting "Samson Option"brings about ww3 and death for all of us.Oh sorry I questioned Israel I must be such a horrible person call the ADL on me!

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@ OrchidLunar
Here you are! Zionists are people that should die because they think themselves superior as the Nazi aryan race. They hate arabs and want to see them dead, look at what was saying Sharon, this cruel man. A lot of zionists believes like him and also a lot of JEWS strongly disagree with him.

Are JEWS that hate Israël anti-semitic? Zionists are not real JEWS, they spitted on their religion when they wanted to create Israël. If the zionists wouldn't exist, the jews and arabs would be peacefully living in palestine.

And don't forget that the Zionist lobby is really powerful in countries like USA and France. So if you say the most little thing against Israël's policies, you're a nazi!

STOP financing ISRAEL, a state of NAZIS, armed with NUKES, spitting on HUMAN RIGHTS and makings CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

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Originally posted by Vitchilo

...Americans, remember that what did trigger WW3 was the Bush administration, that you've elected, twice.

I agree with this statement. However, keep in mind that some of us see Bush for what he is and declined to elect him.

Please do not make generalized statements about the citizens of the US. We are not all clones or automatons.

Of course! I was saying that to those who voted for him and do not assume what this vote included with consequences. Good luck to all of you who understand what's the biggest problem in this country.

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Originally posted by OrchidLunar
Ignorance?Typical liberal you throw insults if anyone dares to question your precious Israel.That is ignorance.I'm tired of the fact that anyone that dares to look at history in a different way and tries to see past the lies the victors of the second world war will always be viciously attacked by leftists or that anyone that questions Israels policies and ways of dealing with its neighbours or judaism in general is viciously attacked.

Yeah I'm a liberal you obviously don't know me or anything about me. I am a vet, and I am someone who sees things pretty clearly. Israel may be part of the problem, and they are certainly guilty of their fair share of crimes, but what you are saying is beyond outrageous and is completely void of intellect and rational thought.

It is obvious that you are unwilling to look at the whole situation in the region. Go back to WWI and what Britain proposed for the region. Had the Arabs, namely Syria, Jordan and Eygpt not undermined and back stabbed the Pals then there would have been a Palestine Nation long ago. TransJordan as they were known then did quite a bit to repress and injure the pals in the region.

As for Israel, there was always a plan for a 2 state solution. However again it was the Arab nations that prevented such. They however could not stop the creation of Israel nor could they destroy it once created. Israel did not start the wars in the region. They just were able to defend themselves and prove to be better wagers of war then there neighbors.

You can read all about it here:
www.mideastweb.org...

If you think ignorance is an insult then so be it. As for my remarks concerning the KKK, well if the shoe fits wear it.

You don't need me to call you what you are, you are obviously an anti-semite and you obviously want to see Israel destroyed. My question to you is why? What do you have against Jews? When I look at the ME, tell me, who are the 3 smallest Nations there? Why does such a small nation create such a threat to those around them?

As for the US, well look at the Cold War era. Yes the US supported Israel, but do you recall who supported the Arab Nations? USSR.

Your remarks about children being attacked by F-16's is amusing. How about Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, all strapping bombs to themselves and going into malls, bus stations, and other areas to detonate themselves in hopes of killing Jews? And they do not target military, they target women, children, unarmed, defensless people. Israel has targeted armed, leaders of these groups. Not quite the same thing is it?

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Originally posted by OrchidLunar
Your remarks about children being attacked by F-16's is amusing. How about Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, all strapping bombs to themselves and going into malls, bus stations, and other areas to detonate themselves in hopes of killing Jews? And they do not target military, they target women, children, unarmed, defensless people. Israel has targeted armed, leaders of these groups. Not quite the same thing is it?

You would do the same thing as them if you were in their position so stop saying things like this. If not, how would you fight an enemy that is 100X bigger and powerful than you?

If the China would invade US, occupies it, and put all the americans into 1 or 2 states, say that US is theirs and that all resistance is terrorism? Also, don't forget the approval of the international community that supports China over you. What would you do? You're the last one of you're family because all you're brothers and sisters were killed by a chinese attack that was striking back for bomb that killed 5 chineses and in response, they killed 25 americans?

Go live with the palestinians for 10 years and you'll know how they live and think and suffer from their oppressor, ISRAEL.

All this post is not a personnal attack, it's just to say that you should imagine what would you do if the same thing would happen here. Wouldn't you want to strike back? For sure you would.

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iran is floating on oil, why woould they need nuclear energy?



it is obvious they want the bomb as a deterrant, and will probably get it one day.

i dont think world war three is around the corner. There may be governments that want you to think that to keep you scared but the reality is very complex.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
If the China would invade US, occupies it, and put all the americans into 1 or 2 states, say that US is theirs and that all resistance is terrorism? Also, don't forget the approval of the international community that supports China over you. What would you do? You're the last one of you're family because all you're brothers and sisters were killed by a chinese attack that was striking back for bomb that killed 5 chineses and in response, they killed 25 americans?

I would strike back by hitting legit military targets, not women and children in bus stations, or malls or things like that.

Again you are neglecting the true history of the formation of Israel and what was supposed to be Palestine. Read that link and see for yourself what was laid out and who it was that kept the Pals from getting their own state. Also, how is it Israel's fault that they were attacked right from the onset of their creation?

I do not deny anything about Israel and the crimes they have committed. They are not without blame, and they have made their mistakes. But how you can rationlize the terrorism used against them is just wrong. That is like saying hey AQ beheads Americans in Iraq so that justifies Abu Gharib.

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I wish all these Americans that support zionism would understand that zionist jews care nothing for them.To a zionist the only real human beings are jews.If Americans want to see a real holocaust I think they should go and live with the Palestinians for a few months.Israel is no friend to America,it simply knows it could have never waged it's war of genocide and oppression without Americas help.How could we be so blind as to let a nation ran by racist religious fanatics acquire nuclear weapons?Maybe Iran does not need nuclear weapons but nor does Israel.Israel now has the power to completely destabillize the region and even start a third world war,the same reasons we don't want Iran having nukes.