Bush in Pakistan

Islamabad was sealed off so that President Musharraf could welcome US President George Bush to his capital. Bush is making the journey to compliment and compensate Musharraf on services rendered in the war on terror.

Opposition politician and former cricketer, Imran Khan, says he was placed under house arrest for trying to organise a protest during Mr Bush's visit. Khan was endeavouring to highlight the duplicity of elections in Pakistan not to mention the rank abuse of civil and human rights.

hrw.org...

The hypocrisy is breath taking.

"Breathtaking" does not even begin to describe it Reminds me of when Bush came to London and the police didn't let him even see the protesters........

You can't try to force democracy on others and then deny the people of allied nations the right to free speech can you? There is an ulterior motive to all this I swear! Whether it was Musharraf or Musharraf under pressure from the US who perpetrated this particular crime against democracy is irrelevant really - it just shows the state of the world during the so-called "War on Terror" doesn't it?

Bush in Pakistan...probably called up his ol mate Osama to have lunch....to congratulate him on kicking out the Russians,letting him use his name as the instigator of terror and to sincerely thank him on allowing him to take Afghanistan so he can continue and expand the size of his opium trade to keep the coffers filled.

Its probably a darn good idea to keep General Mush in the saddle. Remember, Pakistan has a very strong radical Islamist base.
If they come to power......we'll all be nuked !!
Mush, you've got my vote buddy!!!

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my thoughts are more directed towards the day-before visit to India
where President Bush expanded the nuclear give-away to our friend and largest democracy in the world, India. (added arms & aircraft to boot)

perhaps there's a strategy afoot to have India as a regional 'counter balance' to the Islamic Bomb nation of Pakistan....
as in-> who knows if or when Jihad will mobilize against the current Pakistan regime, and pursue the 'Caliphate' or 'Islamic Empire' ?!!

The people in Pakistan that oppose President Musharraf the most are the radical Islamist base people that have tried to kill him on numerous occasions. Civil and human rights arent exactly on the top of alot of these peoples list many consider the Taliban the perfect form of goverment.

Musharraf has to deal with a radical and extremely dangerous group in his own country. When he has a foriegn president this group hates 10 times more then him ofcourse he is going to have to take extraordinary security precautions.

Even freedom of speech does not give you the right to say incite a cite or become a security threat.

Originally posted by ShadowXIX

Musharraf has to deal with a radical and extremely dangerous group in his own country. When he has a foreign president this group hates 10 times more then him of course he is going to have to take extraordinary security precautions.

Still defending Bush and his friends, looks to me that Mr. Bush is not welcome anywhere in the word.

To make accommodations the people has to be control Musharraf is nothing more than a poppet government in Pakistan thanks to the support of the US.

But then again is not what the people wants but what the west wants. Yes democracy and freedom of speech is and always has been in the beholders eye.

Even freedom of speech does not give you the right to say incite a cite or become a security threat.

Yes you are right there we can see it here in the US, the line between protest and security threat has become indistinguishable since Bush is in power.

Originally posted by marg6043

Still defending Bush and his friends, looks to me that Mr. Bush is not welcome anywhere in the word.


Musharraf is nothing more than a poppet government in Pakistan thanks to the support of the US.

Im not defending Bush but I cant understand why Musharraf had to do this. He was elected in Pakistan and cant even prevent attempts on his life. Now a important figure comes to his country that is hated even more by these radicals of course hes going to have to up security big time.

Man if you think Pakistan is a puppet of the US classic. That must be why Musharraf does not allow US troops to operate on its side of the rugged and ill-defined border even though the people the US are fighting are crossing back and forth all the time.

Any chance to get a bash in on the US I guess

Yes you are right there we can see it here in the US, the line between protest and security threat has become indistinguishable since Bush is in power.

Oh yes you could incite riots during the Clinton years But isnt Bush so bad letting protest like the "Impeach Bush Rally " not too long ago go on in Washington. Thoose poor protestors they had to get permits and everything



[edit on 5-3-2006 by ShadowXIX]

ShadowXIX

You know I should not have taking your post and quote it, I don't know what it came upon me.

You know why? because we are all puppets of our governments and it doesn't matter from which political party the are, we all the same to them.

Governments have only one purpose, to control the masses and to protect their elite groups.

That goes with any government in power around the world.

i guess doing a scarecrow act was part of his tour
or did someone just put a stick down his back?

Another quality post by bodrul. Observe.

Musharraf is the closest the US will ever get to being allied with Pakistan, if it wasn’t for him we would have people who admire the Taliban with nukes, in power, yippee!

Also, people are denouncing Musharraf because he took security measures to protect the President of the US in a country with a radical Islamic base?

Originally posted by WestPoint23
Also, people are denouncing Musharraf because he took security measures to protect the President of the US in a country with a radical Islamic base?

Protecting the US President is one thing but I hardly think that people such as Irman Khan were a threat to the Presidents’ safety and Irman Khan and his party are not Islamic fundamentalist. This isn’t about security it is about suppressing those who desire to speak out about oppression and manipulation.

Is is far too easy these days to use the supposed threat of terrorism to suppress discussion and remove freedoms.

He was elected in Pakistan

He actually came to power in a coup where he then proceeded to excile the prime minister.

Afterwards...

In an attempt to legitimize his presidency and assure its continuance after the approaching restoration of democracy, he held a referendum on April 30, 2002 to extend his presidential term to five years after the October elections. However, the referendum was boycotted by the majority of Pakistani political groupings, which later complained that the elections were heavily rigged, and voter turnout was 30% or below by most estimates.

en.wikipedia.org...

It seems the Bush administration will take an ally where ever they can get one...as long as they smile and nod and don't argue too much when there are conflicting regional issues...the current administration will be happy to sell them weapons and support their W.M.D programs regardless as to their human rights records or lack of real democratic processes...

The hypocrisy is breath taking

Indeed

I just despise mushy-mushy cause he supports terror groups in Cashmere!
but that's just me..

Originally posted by Daedalus3
I just despise mushy-mushy cause he supports terror groups in Cashmere!
but that's just me..

Do you mean Kashmir or are you referring to their attire?

Interesting. Two countries with dictators, one pretends to be developing nukes and gets invaded; the other has nukes and gets a state visit & $billions in aid.

I'm sure Iran has taken notice!