An alternate self exists in dreams

After I have woken up I often wonder why I found it so difficult to notice the abundant signs in my dreams that would have proven to me that I was dreaming. I think the reason for this is that you don't think and make decisons in the same manner as you would in your waking hours. In effect, the YOU in your dreams is an alternate self to the YOU in your waking hours. Why? I don't know. Does anyone else share this view?

My belief:

It has to do with your psyche "freeing" your subconscious. You are "allowed" to make rash decisions, be brutally violent, or wreak havoc, mostly because in your dream world, social judgement doesn't occur. Instead, the story plays out like a pre-recorded movie, where you are an actor. Your sub-conscious drives you to say your lines and play your part all on the fly.

It's like a cage match with no rules. Break loose, and enjoy it.

Sometimes it seems as if I have a differing level of awareness in dreams compared to the waking state. Sometimes it is as if your recent memory has been erased or alternatively you've gone back in time.
For example, I've had dreams where I was back at school,or at a former job and place of residence and thought it was normal until I woke up.
Upon waking I am confused as to why I didn't question whether I was dreaming when faced with these obvious inconsistancies with my waking life.
This also appears to work in reverse. When awake, many of the dreams are quickly forgotten if a concerted effort is not made to remember them.
So we are less aware of the various dream states when awake in the physical just as we are less aware of the physical waking state when dreaming.
Concerning an 'alternate self', anythings possible. Maybe there's many alternate selves or parts to a higher self. Maybe some recalled dreams are remembered experiences of different selves in alternate on going lives.

Mytym, you are not an alternate self. You are receiving living peoples' telepathic emotional brainwaves and they are flowing through a dream image of yourself in an effort to release these received telepathies.

Unless you like being conned by a one "advisor" and conflicting with another "adversary", my suggestion is that you realize your in the middle of several dream 'personas' who have been relating to your 'persona' which is not really you. Personally I don't kick back and enjoy my dream state because I understand it. My mentality is how I think and my actions in awake life show this thinking. I personally don't care to have someone elses guilt or low self-esteem emotions matching up with my brain and putting me in a dream scenario where I am portrayed as a theif or I am getting away with something that is not mine. What I 'see' in my dreams is my dream realm, yet for now, I must be part of a very sick part of social collectivism that pressures me to give up individualism. This I will not do. I wake up after each dream and do something. Sometimes that is every 2 hours. I do not appreciate the negative thoughts of other people who do nothing to better their lives. I forgive them, and forget them. I forget the dreams also, they seem to be a part of my sleeping life, but I will not let them be part of my waking life. There are plenty of good people on this world, and we relate to each other awake. By your deeds you shall be known.

love ya all,
Honor Seed

This all seems a little farfetched. They are dreams, nothing more.

Well, HS, that's certainly deeper than I would have ever thought.

i think dreams are dream...part of your psyche, yet controllable in a way.

Why not live out darker fanstasies in a realm where you will not be condemned for it?

It doesn't hurt you. And if it does, I love to be proven wrong.

10:25 PM 2/24/06 first I was a judge, then I was watching some water drip from some hanging seed and a person guess the plant by the taste of the water dripping off the seed. Then I was dreaming I was writing about this experience in some sort of star filled space. and wondered to myself whether it was greater to be a judge of others or about the seed, I thought it greater to be able to discern the seed. I thought I just heard a bird chirp at 10:31 PM 2/24/06.
Neither the affairs of mankind nor the birds do Gods' attentions go in favor , both being equal to God. God favors neither over the other of a man finding an answer to a dream or a bird finding a seed. Remember, it is written The answer is 'the parable is seed is the word of God.' This is why I took the last name of Seed, it is my birthright. For truly I believe we are all named honor seed by God. That is namely "respect the answer of God". And Gods' answer to your questions which are known before you even ask, is nothing more than yes and no.
Hear thou an answer from a man that is more than yes and no and you have heard an answer from man, not an answer from God through that man.
There are no higher answers from man than can be answered yes and no.
I am that I am. Even so, Jesus come.

Are your answers inspired of God? The answer is no. The questions have not left you that choice, and so be it.

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Why not live out darker fanstasies in a realm where you will not be condemned for it? -rousch

It is not God that condemns but mankind does, the choice of paths is yours.

You will prove yourself wrong in the future, dreams are not controllable.

love
HS

I believe some dreams can hurt you if you let them. I once had a very unusual dream for me that I thought was just plain evil and I remember the feeling of enjoying doing evil which seemed to be a new feeling. I was horrified by the dream after I woke up and remembered. Fortunately that dream seemed unusual and I didn't let it hurt me. I believe some people try to do what they dream about and that can hurt them if the dream was not a good dream.

As far as letting a dream play out without interfering, I believe it's more peaceful that way. However if your dreams start playing out in ways you don't like, if you become aware you are dreaming, it can be less taxing I believe to change things. I have become aware I was dreaming in many dreams when the dream wasn't going the way I wanted it to and changed things. I don't know if this seems normal for others but many of my dreams seem like I'm in a high action movie. Of course maybe the high action and very unusual dreams are the ones I remember better.

i think dreams may well be your subconscious trying to kepp the mind stimulated whilst the body is healing and recooperating from the days events.
there are so many small pieces of information built up in a days short term memory the brain must be able file away and forget certain important or unimportant details that it picks up.
like "disk clean up" or "defragmenting" so as too remove all that info with out having to recall it. having to scan through all the fine details picked up by the subconscious must take time so what a better way to entertain the brain. This can also play a part in keeping the vitals running.
when i spent time in hospital a few years back, the night after surgery i had dreamless sleep. but i was woken 5 or 6 times in one night by the nurse cos my heart rate kept dropping low like 20 BPM or something. they thought i was crashing cos the heart rate monitor kept going off.

but i also believe many dreams have reasons and motives for being played. much subconscious info from emotional or traumatic events are rolled through to try to sensitize or desensitize the thought process so as to maintain a sane and straight thought pattern. perhaps a subconscious counselor that keeps the brain from slipping into paranoid delusions or insanity.

Well, Have you noticed that you never actually see yourself in your dreams??? You are just aware that you are there. Its called you subconcieous self!!

Originally posted by Crusing The GCC
Well, Have you noticed that you never actually see yourself in your dreams?

I have seen my 'self' in my dreams. Sometimes a younger image or a present image, but never an older image.

Also when i dream, i have the sense of taste, touch and smell. And i dream in colour too.

Sanc'.

have you ever had those dreams where you have a special power, (like flying) or thunder bolts coming through your hands like dragonballz?

those dreams are WELLLLL good

Originally posted by sanctum
I have seen my 'self' in my dreams. Sometimes a younger image or a present image, but never an older image.

Also when i dream, i have the sense of taste, touch and smell. And i dream in colour too.

Sanc'.

I have noticed that, too. I can see myself. I will sometimes "play the part" of a different person. But you are right. I have never seen myself older. I guess I'm not psychic.

I dream in full color as well. I can certainly feel pain, emotions, smell the air, and taste the food I eat. I become completely involved in some of my dreams. They are not all like that.

And I have recurring dreams, too. Those are the kind that creep me out. They are too bizarre in nature to become reality, yet seem to hold some kind of meaning f my subconscious keeps reminding me of them.

Yup, i dream in colour too. My dreams are often sci fi, and i have special powers and help win the day !!! However i have had one or two dreams that struck me as being rather special. I have had an out of body expereince when i was at school and i recall the wonderful sensation of flying down the corridors. Another one was when i was taken from Earth in a spaceship and landed on another planet to be told i was ruler of the planet and i had been brought back to help "my" people. Extremely vivid and very exciting !!

I can't remember ever having a dream in black and white. I'm sure they're always in colour.
I think it's always better if possible to be in control of what you do in dreams. Call me a control freak. I feel there is a level of responsibility when it comes to making choices just like in waking life.
For example to go conciously around causing mayhem and destruction because you think you can get away with it or 'living out dark fantasies 'because you think it's just a dream is questionable to say the least.

Originally posted by point
For example to go conciously around causing mayhem and destruction because you think you can get away with it or 'living out dark fantasies 'because you think it's just a dream is questionable to say the least.

Why is it questionable?

I have had "fights" in my dreams where I was a jealous maniac after discovering my husband was cheating on me.

This does not make me evil in this lifetime, not does it make me overly jealous. I am still me...peaceful, for the most part.

If you try to tell me that all of your dreams are peaceful, inspiring, and a hippie's perfect life, then I will call you a liar. Everyone has had bad dreams.

I think it's healthy. If you do not have this subliminal release, then perhaps it will play itself out in reality.

To Rouschkateer,
I said 'Call me a control freak' not a liar. lol
I was refering to lucid dreams,"conciously"
Your the one who mentioned 'evil'

Originally posted by sanctum

I have seen my 'self' in my dreams. Sometimes a younger image or a present image, but never an older image.

Also when i dream, i have the sense of taste, touch and smell. And i dream in colour too.

Sanc'.

That is exactly what I have in my dreams but for some reason they are very real and sometimes I can pick up what I left the nigh before like a series.

I can also see in color, can smell and taste just as well, funny that I can not remember if my dreams are in spanish or english.

And I am always younger, prettier and single.

the fact that you can have control of all of your senses in dreams has always fascinated me, i can remember eating, hearing music, and smoking ciggarettes, etc. I'm glad that the mind has the power to entertain us while we "recharge ourselves." Id rather dream then stare at the back of my eyelids and see darkness, thank you brain!

I started having lucid dreams about 2 or 3 years ago when i first heard about them on the Coast To Coast radio show. Ever since then i've been flying, traveling through space, sex with Jessica Alba, ect...

The main thing i do is keep asking myself if "This is real" throught the day when i'm awake. So when your dreaming and you figure out that you are infact dreaming you should pick up the closest object. After that my mind know's that i'm dreaming and i can pretty much do what ever i want. Sometimes i might wake up when i figure out i'm dreaming and the reason is that i'm not sure if i'm still alive. This happends if i was drinking the night before, i dont know why (it might have to do with my hangover).

I don't think you are an alternate self in a dream, i think your in your own world where you can master it and do whatever you want.