Israel rules out pre-emptive strike against Iran

In breaking news it seems Israel has ruled out a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nucleur facilaties..

www.asianews.it...

Also in an interesting pack peddle from previous statements, Irans foreign minister has backed down on the regimes hard line status in regards to israel..

news.ninemsn.com.au...

This is an interesting change in both countries foreign policy...perhaps both countries are simply trying to prevent military confrontation...or?

Iran is changing tunes because they know somethings about to happen, Israel is changing tunes because its about to do something and wants it to be a surprise..


Take a wild guess what (it) is..


[edit on 21-2-2006 by C0le]

couldn't put it beeter Cole myself...rofl.

Irans in for a nasty shock one morning, when it rises to be greeted by the sight of Israels finest doing low level over its cities

in a more wooly optimist view, maybe they have been warned that if they start a fight they will both get slapped down..... maybe....but I still think the sneaky suprise sounds more realistic.

Please don't bet your words on whatever they say. Every action has an equal opposite reaction--that's what Israel wants them to think. Nah..Pre-emptive strike is too childish and Americanish. They want Iran to feel safe when they wake up every morning and you can infer from here it's psychological warfare.

U.S said it won't invade Iran anytime soon, you really believe their words?

Nah. I don't take the news seriously especially ones pertaining to the issue of war.

Originally posted by kojac
In breaking news it seems Israel has ruled out a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nucleur facilaties..

www.asianews.it...

Also in an interesting pack peddle from previous statements, Irans foreign minister has backed down on the regimes hard line status in regards to israel..

news.ninemsn.com.au...

This is an interesting change in both countries foreign policy...perhaps both countries are simply trying to prevent military confrontation...or?

Israel's got a vested interest in preventing the Iranians from developing a nuclear weapon's system capable of reaching the state of Israel.

They may have said that they were ruling out pre-emptive strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, but then again it's just a statement.

Without using their MRBM's, Israel hasn't got anything with the range to take out Iran's nuclear facilities anyway, so of course they're not going to launch a "preemptive" strike - without going nuclear, they can't. To get a strike package to Iran they'd have to have refueling aircraft operating inside Iranian airspace, a risky plan if there ever was one. They don't have long range ALCM's like the US.

Originally posted by xmotex
Without using their MRBM's, Israel hasn't got anything with the range to take out Iran's nuclear facilities anyway, so of course they're not going to launch a "preemptive" strike - without going nuclear, they can't. To get a strike package to Iran they'd have to have refueling aircraft operating inside Iranian airspace, a risky plan if there ever was one. They don't have long range ALCM's like the US.

Who's to say that the Israeli's wouldn't insert numerous special ops/deniable ops teams into Iran to knock those facilities out on the ground?

That's the most likely option, available to the Israeli's, as i see it.

How are they going to get them there without air cover?
How are they going to get them out?

Israel has a powerful military, but it's not really equipped for long range power projection, it's equipped to repel attacks on Israel proper. The only country with the means to undertake such an operation is the US or maybe the Russians or Europeans (who almost certainly won't.) Secondly the US isn't going to sanction such an operation by the Israelis, given the political price we'd pay in the ME. It would be less politically risky to do it ourselves.

Originally posted by xmotex
How are they going to get them there without air cover?
How are they going to get them out?

Israel has a powerful military, but it's not really equipped for long range power projection, it's equipped to repel attacks on Israel proper. The only country with the means to undertake such an operation is the US or maybe the Russians or Europeans (who almost certainly won't.) Secondly the US isn't going to sanction such an operation by the Israelis, given the political price we'd pay in the ME. It would be less politically risky to do it ourselves.

They could utilise commerical airliners and drop into Iran out of the cargo bays; they could insert over Iran's long and significantly undefended coast; they could insert teams over the boarder from Afghanistan or Iraq.

The Americans wouldn't have anything to gain out of sanctioning such a bold operation...but then again the Israeli's wouldn't seek any such sanction from the Americans. But i'm pretty sure the Americans WOULD agree to provide logistical support to any such covert operation.

I'm pretty sure we wouldn't, actually.

Alowing Israel to attack Iran would cause mayhem in the ME, doing it ourselves wouldn't create quite the same degree of uproar. Plus we would be able to do a far more thorough job of it.

Originally posted by xmotex
I'm pretty sure we wouldn't, actually.

Alowing Israel to attack Iran would cause mayhem in the ME, doing it ourselves wouldn't create quite the same degree of uproar. Plus we would be able to do a far more thorough job of it.

im pretty sure israel doesn't give a crap about the united states. im also 100% sure that israel is going to attack Iran not only to destory the nukes sites but to get Iran and U.S intro a war with each other that way israel can sit back and get america and iran to fight getting ameirca to destroty the iranian millityr capabilities to a level where they are no threat to israel anymore. although iran will still have a huge arsenel of firepower left it will no longer be of any danger to irael becuase of the distance of both countries.

Originally posted by xmotex
Alowing Israel to attack Iran would cause mayhem in the ME, doing it ourselves wouldn't create quite the same degree of uproar. Plus we would be able to do a far more thorough job of it.

Mark my words, sonny! We'll be doing it all right and it won't be preemptive. It will be in retalliation for what looks like an attack from them, with something brought in through those shiny new ports Bush is selling to the UAE.

I can't really blame Isreal for seeing Iran as a threat, especially after the recent statements from Irans leader.

As a country, I would also prepare for a potential war with Iran, and just like any other war throughout history, a surprise (pre-emptive) attack can prove very effective in decapitating ones foe.

Saying that, there is no reason to believe that Isreal will perform a pre-emptive strike at this time, although I wouldn't rule it out entirely, as presuming Iran is capable of and does develop nuclear weapons, then it is in Isreal best interest to neutralize the threat posed by such developments within Iran.

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im pretty sure israel doesn't give a crap about the united states.

They better care about the US, they wouldn’t survive if it wasn't for the US and for my tax dollars.
I agree with xmotex, the US is really the only one in a position to attack Iran’s facilities and do it properly. If you know anything about the 80’s attack on Iraq you would know that Israel got very lucky.

im pretty sure israel doesn't give a crap about the united states.

Well they do and they don't.

Considering we are the IDF's primary source of weaponry (not to mention the money to buy it), they don't have much choice to pay some attention to us. On the other hand, no, I don't think they're particularly concerned about our best interests. And I am sure they would love to see us take out their enemies for them, and foot the bill, both in greenbacks and blood.

It will be in retalliation for what looks like an attack from them

Sadly I agree this is entirely possible.
They wouldn't even have to do anything themselves, just look the other way while OBL & Co. pull of their next attack, and implicate Iran.

Why risk exposing yourselves when there's a group of fanatics perfectly happy to light the match for you?

[edit on 2/21/06 by xmotex]

I want to see Israel go and try to do something to Iran without US backing them up... Israel would get wiped out so fast they wouldnt even know what hit them.

Originally posted by xmotex
I'm pretty sure we wouldn't, actually.

Alowing Israel to attack Iran would cause mayhem in the ME, doing it ourselves wouldn't create quite the same degree of uproar. Plus we would be able to do a far more thorough job of it.

Israel unilaterally attacked Iraq in the late 80's and put one of their French-built nuclear reactors out of action...i don't see why they wouldn't do it again, only with Iran this time.

Israel will not need commercial airplanes, watch this documentory about the raid on the (Iraqi) reactor
video.google.com...

Originally posted by Lanton
Israel unilaterally attacked Iraq in the late 80's and put one of their French-built nuclear reactors out of action...i don't see why they wouldn't do it again, only with Iran this time.

Israel unilaterally attacked and knocked out one Iraqi reactor. It was one target.

Iran is reported to have around 20 or so sites The US and/or Israel would want to knock out in a air raid, in a country much larger than Iran.

Iraq had just the one seen as a target to be hit.

Which suddenly changes it from being just another 'Air Raid' scenario for Israel in terms of Iran.

More risky, more longer, much larger. The longer an 'operation' is, the more chance of casualties among those taking part, from air defence and etc.

Iran saw what happened to Iraq's reactor, and learned lessons.

Not to mention that Iran's facilioties are almost entirely underground. WAY underground. The Iraqi reactor was not. Also, even if Israel was to put boots on the ground in Iran, exactly what kind of weapon could they possibly hump in that could destroy these massive underground facilities... assuming they could even get into them in the first place?