Paul McCartney died in 1966 - replaced by Billy Shepherd

Originally posted by berenike
I do trust your work, I thought I had made it clear that I thought you had done a very careful job.

OK thanx, I must have missed it.

Edit to add - looking at the shadows on young Paul's face you can see where the wrinkles were going to appear later on.

Yes very good point.

I'm not even concerned about his ears, who knows what the deal is, but I'm afraid it's not a factor when the skull matches, and by my measurements they match exactly. Ear today gone tomorrow lol, maybe he pulled on his lobes and stretched them? Seriously though I think it's just angles and lighting.

And Faulcon keeps ignoring the fact that eye colour can change and hazel to green is quite common. Also 60's photography wasn't the same as the 70's and the difference in film and development can change colours drastically.

When the pupil size changes, the pigments in the iris compress or spread apart, changing the eye color a bit. Certain emotions can change both the pupil size and the iris color. That's why some people say their eyes change colors when they're angry or loving.

Eye color also can change with age. This happens in 10 to 15 percent of the Caucasian population (people who generally have lighter eye colors). For instance, my once very brown eyes are now hazel, a combination of brown and green. However, some hazel eyes actually get darker with age.

www.allaboutvision.com...

...Hazel eyes often appear to shift in color from a light brown to a medium golden-dark green...

en.wikipedia.org...

Paul's eyes were hazel when he was young and the green became dominant as he went through his twenties. They might look dk. brown but that's just lighting and old photographic film etc.

www.paulisnotdead.com...

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Wally Hope]

Note that if your adult eye color changes pretty dramatically, or if one eye changes from brown to green or blue to brown (called heterochromia), it's important to see your eye doctor. Eye color changes can be a warning sign of certain diseases, such as Fuch's heterochromic iridocyclitis, Horner's syndrome or pigmentary glaucoma.

So now he has an eye diseases since a dramatic change of brown to green. Where as normaly it would only goto a mix of brown and green, or darker .. But He Fully transfered over to a lighter color.. Also the eye changeing only occurs 10-15% of the Caucasian population.

He now magically fits in this crowd as well, and the stars align further ...

As for the Paul haveing Hazel eyes myth.... Ill start trying to make it come true now ...

I believe Ringo Pitched a fit with the camera guy about his eye color specifics so He got the special camera here inorder to not have artificially dark eyes...



Best lie i can come up with atm to suit the other lie ...

reply to post by Bldrvgr


No, read that quote again it says 'MAY' be sign of eye disease, otherwise it's not that uncommon for hazel to turn green. Your quote does not contradict the facts I presented.

reply to post by Bldrvgr


What? You guys are not very good a pic comparisons. Did you not notice the Ringo pic is lot brighter than the other three? Look at his skin and hair colour for goodness sake.

This site says hazel...

www.whosdatedwho.com...

So does this one...

www.fanpix.net...

Hazel is often called brown. How you can say his eyes were not hazel, I'm kinda perplexed?

Logic, seeing as his eyes turned green, would tell us Hazel is right answer. No need for a massive conspiracy to explain it.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Wally Hope]

Originally posted by Wally Hope
reply to post by Bldrvgr

 

What?

This site say hazel...

www.whosdatedwho.com...

So does this one...

www.fanpix.net...

Hazel is often called brown. How you can say his eyes were not hazel I'm kinda perplexed?

Logic, seeing as his eyes turned green, would tell us Hazel is right answer. No need for a massive conspiracy to explain it.

No No, Im just interested to hear the conspiracy on how much lighter Ringo's Eyes need to be to in contrast to Pauls eyes, so when the camera is used, to artificially darken them. thats all.

Otherwise its bull, Pauls eyes are brown. I can see the brown tint in that photo anyway.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Bldrvgr]

Originally posted by Wally Hope
reply to post by Bldrvgr

 

No, read that quote again it says 'MAY' be sign of eye disease, otherwise it's not that uncommon for hazel to turn green. Your quote does not contradict the facts I presented.

Cool just go back to the page and quote the area that has "May" in it. For reference sake.

reply to post by Bldrvgr


Nope you're just digging your hole a bit bigger.

Hazel eyes can look brown!

The pic of Ringo is BRIGHTER than the other three so EVERYTHING in his image looks lighter than the other three, skin, hair, eyes. It has nothing to do with Paul having hazel eyes.

Originally posted by Wally Hope
reply to post by Bldrvgr

 

Nope you're just digging your hole a bit bigger.

Hazel eyes can look brown!

The pic of Ringo is BRIGHTER than the other three so EVERYTHING in his image looks lighter than the other three, skin, hair, eyes. It has nothing to do with Paul having hazel eyes.

Ok ill artificially darken it, any specific darkness you want ? Its no problem.

reply to post by Bldrvgr


No offence but I'm beggining to wonder about your perception....

Note that if your adult eye color changes pretty dramatically, or if one eye changes from brown to green or blue to brown (called heterochromia), it's important to see your eye doctor. Eye color changes can be a warning sign of certain diseases, such as Fuch's heterochromic iridocyclitis, Horner's syndrome or pigmentary glaucoma.

The word can means the same as may in this context.

Why don't you go look for yourself, you'll find many optical sites that talk about eye colour that are not part of a PID conspiracy.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Wally Hope]

Originally posted by Wally Hope
reply to post by Bldrvgr

 

No offence but I'm beggining to wonder about your perception....

Note that if your adult eye color changes pretty dramatically, or if one eye changes from brown to green or blue to brown (called heterochromia), it's important to see your eye doctor. Eye color changes can be a warning sign of certain diseases, such as Fuch's heterochromic iridocyclitis, Horner's syndrome or pigmentary glaucoma.

The word can means the same as may in this context.

Why don't you go look for yourself, you'll find many optical sites that talk about eye colour that are not part of a PID conspiracy.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Wally Hope]

The rarity of it, is what your trying to dig on, for people to buy in. Not only does this happen to small few, but his color change is abnormal and still associated with a disease. and your wanting to over look all this.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Bldrvgr]

reply to post by Bldrvgr


Well you could try matching the other pics for a start? You are the pic matching experts.

It still won't prove a thing though. Hazel eyes can look brown, there's nothing else to say on the matter. Early film did not reproduce colour, or detail, very accurately.

Originally posted by Bldrvgr
The rarity of it, is what your trying to dig on, for people to buy in. Not only does this happen to small few, but his color change is abnormal and still associated with a disease. and your wanting to over look all this.
[edit on 14-7-2009 by Bldrvgr]

No you are wrong. Please stop this nonsense.

I'm not selling anything just trying to get you to see sense, why I have no idea, who cares what you think?

You have bad reading comprehension, sry to break it to ya so bluntly.

To help you with your research...

search.yahoo.com...;_ylt=A0oGk0jESF1KthYAkedXNyoA?p=hazel+eyes+turn+green&y=Search&fr=att-portal&fr2=sb-top&rd=pref&sao=0

www.google.com...=en&q=hazel+eyes+turn+green&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Wally Hope]

Originally posted by Wally Hope

Originally posted by Bldrvgr
The rarity of it, is what your trying to dig on, for people to buy in. Not only does this happen to small few, but his color change is abnormal and still associated with a disease. and your wanting to over look all this.
[edit on 14-7-2009 by Bldrvgr]

No you are wrong. Please stop this nonsense.

I'm not selling anything just trying to get you to see sense, why I have no idea, who cares what you think?

You have bad reading comprehension, sry to break it to ya so bluntly.

To help you with your research...

search.yahoo.com...;_ylt=A0oGk0jESF1KthYAkedXNyoA?p=hazel+eyes+turn+green&y=Search&fr=att-portal&fr2=sb-top&rd=pref&sao=0

www.google.com...=en&q=hazel+eyes+turn+green&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Wally Hope]

No thanks, will actually try to find real research rather then random junk. If this is so common, obviously there should be other people with pictures out there to sport this as pure proof, especially nowadays. Or do you disagree ?

reply to post by pmexplorer


This thread is making you angry, isn't it?

Why do you care so much and do you put the same effort into every theory you disagree with , or is it just this one?

Why are his ears not as sticky-outy (lol) later on?
Why does his nose become a 'beak'?

I'll leave you with these two questions that have stuck with me in my observations.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by aorAki]

Originally posted by Bldrvgr
If this is so common, obviously there should be other people with pictures out there to sport this as pure proof, especially nowadays.

Exactly.

I know people with hazel eyes and their eyes never turn brown like Paul's, which are brown in most of the early photos. Actually Paul's eyes appear brown in all of the early pics with the exception of a few that have heavy light shined on them. It's obvious why they would appear lighter in those circumstances...and they are never green.

Anyway, I've seen hazel eyes turn a greenish color before but the point is that when they do this, they are still hazel with a greenish tint. I've never seen them go from hazel to pure green.


[edit on 14-7-2009 by SednaSon]

Originally posted by Wally Hope
The pic of Ringo is BRIGHTER than the other three so EVERYTHING in his image looks lighter than the other three, skin, hair, eyes. It has nothing to do with Paul having hazel eyes.

I saw that too. I think part of the problem is we're never going to be satisfied with completely comparable pictures.

Originally posted by Wally Hope Early film did not reproduce colour, or detail, very accurately.

The film of the 'Sixties was by no means early film and is, in fact, some of the higher quality film around. I know that one of our technicians was delighted when he found some '60's-vintage film for his camera.
If anything, the level of detail on most modern digital cameras doesn't compete with film from that era.

Of course, there are exceptions.

Edit:Syntax

[edit on 15-7-2009 by aorAki]

Originally posted by Wally Hope
Early film did not reproduce colour, or detail, very accurately.

Please provide a reference for that assertion.




In SFF, Faul makes big eyes at the camera, almost daring people to notice, plus the shot of his green eyes.



So, where's that pic of Paul w/ his eyes looking green? Until I see one, I'm going to assume that Faul had green eyes naturally. Sometimes he wore brown contacts, sometimes he didn't bother. Most people won't notice, anyway.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]

Originally posted by aorAki
reply to post by pmexplorer

This thread is making you angry, isn't it?

He shouldn't be mad at this thread or at me. He should be mad at the people who have been lying about this for over 40 years. Don't shoot the messenger.

Since out of time, For later my new found friend is this guy right here :



I realy do not think he is dead/replaced or any some such. But he doesn't have the major eye problems that we have here ... On the same dam camera's ...

Hell he can even have shades on (However He wears shades way to dam much.)



[edit on 14-7-2009 by Bldrvgr]