Proven: Construction of The Beast is underway.

Ignoranceisntbliss:

umm the messenger sometimes gets shot.

I went through about 25% of your material and it was quite informative but I could see where it is going (I'll try to get through the rest of it before I post again). You are saying that they are going to turn us into the Borg literally. This is believable and likely doable even at this moment.

But that is not what I understand is going to happen. My understanding is that they are going to re-engineer us using bioengineering to make a new kind of human that is EASIER to control out of the box. So I'm not sure what your material here refers to... an intermediate stage or a preproduction model or a hardware addition to the new human? Do you see a connection here at all?

Originally posted by smallpeeps

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
No I was informed that I cant "republish" here and if I post my link as text it'll be considered spam. I'll have to address this later but for now I'm getting ready to be on Revereradionetwork.com tonight Wed Feb 22 at 12AM EST.

Your myspace page seems nonexistent. I hate myspace so good-on-ya!

But how the heck are we supposed to follow your links (IE proof)?

I like your theory and I like these two images. I can see how a person might organize their thoughts and imagery in photoshop or whatever you did there. I like it.

But I want to learn more about the rat brains, so can you at least do us the courtesy of typing out the URLs as contained in your image? That's the least you could do. Especially when the story is so compelling. What you are describing is similar to what I have read.

If this is true, and rat cells have been merged with human stem cells to create super nanorat brains which can then be injected into people and what have you-- Well, I'd like to research it a bit.

Why not devote a bit more energy to this thread here, IgnoranceIsntBliss? "The Beast" is something people like to discuss in this forum, and I do enjoy your posts.

Thanks for your support, I dont get too much of it considering how far beyond much of my stuff is and the closemindedness that fits nicely with my many challenges to the peopels fundamental ideas about reality.

I used MS Image Composer, it would have taken me FAR more than 4 straight days to buidl that - with any other gfx program. It's like its made for splicing an image together like those.

I would have posted the science links, but there's been another thread here (in the science section) covering these issues that involve alot of quoting and such, and I didnt wanna press my luck on post lengths and quoting (plus i started this one to test my prophecy portions more specifically). That thread is just below, it starts off with links to many of my older blogs on this subject (I really need to go thru and edit most of them quite badly), and towards the end I have some massive posts that should provide enough information for anyone to start their own investigation.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Ignoranceisntbliss:

umm the messenger sometimes gets shot.

I went through about 25% of your material and it was quite informative but I could see where it is going (I'll try to get through the rest of it before I post again). You are saying that they are going to turn us into the Borg literally. This is believable and likely doable even at this moment.

But that is not what I understand is going to happen. My understanding is that they are going to re-engineer us using bioengineering to make a new kind of human that is EASIER to control out of the box. So I'm not sure what your material here refers to... an intermediate stage or a preproduction model or a hardware addition to the new human? Do you see a connection here at all?

*I "get shot" alot. It's almost always baseless but it still tends to test my resolve to try to get thsi inforamtion out which I think is very critical for society to acknowledge and discuss.

"You are saying that they are going to turn us into the Borg literally. This is believable and likely doable even at this moment."

**Not only am i saying it, but so are they (links and more quotes provided in the thread in my last reply).

"My understanding is that they are going to re-engineer us using bioengineering to make a new kind of human that is EASIER to control out of the box. "

***Interesting notion, I hadnt actualy thought of that potential angle. They surely do intend to recreate us into what they call "posthumanism", and I suppose they very well could engineer in some ensured and advanced forms of bias and groupthink - that could even supplement the groupthink effectiveness of the neural implants. The skies the limit as to how horrific this all really is, and until people acknowledge and monitor it theres no stopping the evil.

About bias, I view it and its ugly cousins as the greatest threat of mankind. For starters it's what would/will allow this technology to proliferate into what i describe. Biases ugly cousins are ignorance and stupidity. Thay all go hand in hand really.

Note: Directly related to this thread is this, "Finishing the Unfinished Pyramid":
www.abovetopsecret.com...

That is actually my old rough draft version of that. I hope to recieve permission to (re)post my full version of it soon(it's already published at my blog, and they could get in trouble if its not handled properly)...

[edit on 24-4-2006 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

IIB, I am reading your links. I have discovered that many of your images come from a certain .pdf, which indicates the future as envisioned by some influential types who make and read reports like this. Anyway, it took me some digging to find the link within your blogerry, so I thought I'd post it here so people can read it for themselves. Good work, by the way.

www.wtec.org...

Converging Technologies for Improving Human Performance

NANOTECHNOLOGY, BIOTECHNOLOGY, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND COGNITIVE SCIENCE

NSF/DOC-sponsored report, Edited by Mihail C. Roco and William Sims Bainbridge, National Science Foundation, June 2002 Arlington, Virginia

Your story is very compelling. Particularly the NASA google huge facility, and the fact that a rat-neuron robot was built in 2003, then revealed only last year.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the beast is ROME, and yes it has been constructed already

LOL!

That's the weakest of all possible interpretations of the beast, it's typically used by those deperate to dismiss Revelation.

This remark is absolutely incorrect, very ignorant, and rather rude…
Preterists may use it to say that Revelations was fulfilled in Nero, but certainly not those that believe in Historicism...

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Two of the three schools of prophecy are in agreement that the seven headed, ten horned beast of Revelations is in fact ROME. Even Rome itself admits this in its Preteristic view on prophecy.

Rome has been known as the City of the Seven Hills for as long as it has existed.

Rome is also the country being talked about later in Revelations were it states:

Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Here the beast is Imperial Rome and the Woman is the Roman Catholic Church.

Also this beast mentioned here in Revelations is mentioned in Daniel also here:

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

The little horn that springs up on this beast is the station of the Pontiff Maximus, a station held first by the Emperors of Rome, but today by the Pope, hence the name Pontiff.

Here if your having any doubt about this, look to whom it fell to change the calendars and Religious Laws in those days:

Pontiff Maximus
They also collected information related to the Roman religious tradition into a sort of corpus which summarised dogma and other concepts, similar to later compilations of law in Jurisprudence.
.
.
The Pontifices were in charge of the Roman calendar and determined when intercalary days needed to be added to sync the calendar to the seasons.

Now lets check this against the prophecy in Daniel:

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Ok one last bit here, is there any way to know for CERTAIN that this beast refers to a country?

Yep, the angel translates the vision for him:

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

So if your not going to take the translation straight from the mouth of the Angel, then who are you going to possibly believe?

Now since these four beasts relate back to the levels of the statue earlier mentioned in Daniel, we know that there is one more world dominating power to come after Rome, this last kingdom is the one that enforces the mark of the Beast.

But to summarize:

Beasts = layers in the statue = Kingdoms/Countries.

Babylon
Meadia/Persia
Greecia
Rome
Most Likely the US or possibly the NWO.


[edit on 3/25/2006 by defcon5]

Figured this'd be interesting.

www.livescience.com...

Brain Cells Fused with Computer Chip
By Ker Than
LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 27 March 2006

The line between living organisms and machines has just become a whole lot blurrier. European researchers have developed "neuro-chips" in which living brain cells and silicon circuits are coupled together.

[...]

To create the neuro-chip, researchers squeezed more than 16,000 electronic transistors and hundreds of capacitors onto a silicon chip just 1 millimeter square in size.

They used special proteins found in the brain to glue brain cells, called neurons, onto the chip. However, the proteins acted as more than just a simple adhesive.

"They also provided the link between ionic channels of the neurons and semiconductor material in a way that neural electrical signals could be passed to the silicon chip," said study team member Stefano Vassanelli from the University of Padua in Italy.

Looks like somewhere in some deep bunker/laboratory, somebody's been busy with stem cels and neurons. This is a very interesting line of investigation.

Here's another great story:

Monkey's Brain Runs Robotic Arm

...word has it that the monkey caused the robot arm to fling crap, but I'm still checking on that.



[edit on 27-3-2006 by smallpeeps]

just to say something funny without looking at the first post. # looks like something you might get from jehovas wittnesses. now i will go back and check out the links

Originally posted by smallpeeps
IIB, I am reading your links. I have discovered that many of your images come from a certain .pdf, which indicates the future as envisioned by some influential types who make and read reports like this. Anyway, it took me some digging to find the link within your blogerry, so I thought I'd post it here so people can read it for themselves. Good work, by the way.

www.wtec.org...

Converging Technologies for Improving Human Performance

NANOTECHNOLOGY, BIOTECHNOLOGY, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND COGNITIVE SCIENCE

NSF/DOC-sponsored report, Edited by Mihail C. Roco and William Sims Bainbridge, National Science Foundation, June 2002 Arlington, Virginia

Your story is very compelling. Particularly the NASA google huge facility, and the fact that a rat-neuron robot was built in 2003, then revealed only last year.

Sorry about my absense, I've been tied up in long overdue (yet still icomplete) overhauling myspace profile and some massive blogs in between dealing with several high stress and business related ordeals and havent had time to manage my too many forums accounts.

The NBIC workshop that spawned that report was held in Dec 2001. Also, MultiElectrode Arrays have been around since at least 1972, but have mostly been kept out of the public eye however so. They couldnt really do much with them (allegidly) until the past 10 years thanks to advances with modern computers; it does take same decent "PC" resources to effectively manipulate neurons. For a several year stretch they had a major success similar to the F22 'brain', except i didnt find anything for last year. They successes were reported, but basiaclly only one story was republished each time (not on TV that I'm aware of) and then forgotten. Nearly every national and university laboratory has Neuron/MEA projects underway, and all of the findings get fed into the "TeraGrid" science database, that DARPA surely mines every last bit of.

NASA has a nice section in that NBIC manifesto that gets into their computing goals, and they also have their public "Intelligent Archive" IA system goal (by 2012 similar to DARPA's (2010-2012) specified cognitive computer launch dates). The system will be able to PREDICT things.

Check my "Science & Technology" thread for tons of direct links about this stuff:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 24-4-2006 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the beast is ROME, and yes it has been constructed already

That's the weakest of all possible interpretations of the beast, it's typically used by those deperate to dismiss Revelation.

This remark is absolutely incorrect, very ignorant, and rather rude…
Preterists may use it to say that Revelations was fulfilled in Nero, but certainly not those that believe in Historicism...

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Two of the three schools of prophecy are in agreement that the seven headed, ten horned beast of Revelations is in fact ROME. Even Rome itself admits this in its Preteristic view on prophecy.

Rome has been known as the City of the Seven Hills for as long as it has existed.

Rome is also the country being talked about later in Revelations were it states:

Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Here the beast is Imperial Rome and the Woman is the Roman Catholic Church.

Also this beast mentioned here in Revelations is mentioned in Daniel also here:

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

The little horn that springs up on this beast is the station of the Pontiff Maximus, a station held first by the Emperors of Rome, but today by the Pope, hence the name Pontiff.

Here if your having any doubt about this, look to whom it fell to change the calendars and Religious Laws in those days:

Pontiff Maximus
They also collected information related to the Roman religious tradition into a sort of corpus which summarised dogma and other concepts, similar to later compilations of law in Jurisprudence.
.
.
The Pontifices were in charge of the Roman calendar and determined when intercalary days needed to be added to sync the calendar to the seasons.

Now lets check this against the prophecy in Daniel:

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Ok one last bit here, is there any way to know for CERTAIN that this beast refers to a country?

Yep, the angel translates the vision for him:

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

So if your not going to take the translation straight from the mouth of the Angel, then who are you going to possibly believe?

Now since these four beasts relate back to the levels of the statue earlier mentioned in Daniel, we know that there is one more world dominating power to come after Rome, this last kingdom is the one that enforces the mark of the Beast.

But to summarize:

Beasts = layers in the statue = Kingdoms/Countries.

Babylon
Meadia/Persia
Greecia
Rome
Most Likely the US or possibly the NWO.


[edit on 3/25/2006 by defcon5]

Anyways sorry, I hastily mistook you as preterist. But to touch on what you said first said "ROME", but then you even said:

"Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces."

so if:

"Most Likely the US or possibly the NWO."
"Here the beast is Imperial Rome and the Woman is the Roman Catholic Church."

, is the next kingdom then which is it, ROME itself or the US/NWO? And what about the woman? Couldnt that be "lady" liberty of the US/NWO? Talk about a "whoremonger", since MANY would argue that "lady" liberty is a hermaphrodite (Hermes + Aphrodite) which could be argued to be a "whoremonger" since "she" represents USA.

Whore:
whore
n : a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money [syn: prostitute,
cocotte, harlot, trollop, bawd, tart, cyprian,
fancy woman, working girl, sporting lady, lady of
pleasure, woman of the street]
v 1: corrupt by lewd intercourse
2: have unlawful sex with a whore
+
monger
n : someone who purchases and maintains an inventory of goods to
be sold [syn: trader, bargainer, dealer]
v : sell or offer for sale from place to place [syn: peddle, huckster,
hawk, vend, pitch]

Whoremonger
Webster's Online Dictionary
Noun
1. A prostitute's customer.
2. A pimp who procures whores.

Which is actually from the greek lexicon povrnoß (pornos):
pornos
Thayer Definition:
1) a man who prostitutes his body to another’s lust for hire
2) a male prostitute
3) a man who indulges in unlawful sexual intercourse, a fornicator

, but definitions 1&2 didnt seem to be used in that context in the 10 KJV references:
bible.crosswalk.com...

The woman and male aspects could also represent US invading Iraq. The point is there are many ways to consider things. In my first post I presented some new aspect on "The Beast", and which ways you want interpret the many facets of Bible prophecy is up to you and hopefully so is whether or not you change your opinion when you recieve new data. That last bit is rather psuedo-"political", but politics are important here because all of the definitions could be alegorically applied to our current politicians various practicices and also the "governments" as a whole. That government is not only the one in question (by even you) but its also the one to "give life unto the image of the beast" (Rev 13:14).

The "beast" in question can be the Anti-Christ or the beast "having seven heads and ten horns.", and the "image" would be that that is "in the foreheads" of those who worship it/him. That image being holographic neural imagery. The idea of the Anti-Christ is him having conrol over the Earth. The seven crowns could also represent the seven continents (the Earth) and the "10 nations" could even go on to represent important role nations. After all, numerous nations get dragged alone into modern warfare, but only certain ones have important roles.

This 10 nation "federation" could also represent deeper issues. Historicists seem to contend that the Second Coming is still coming, therefore if it is then this event is still futurist in some sense. The future is these technolgies, and they are coming fast (PUBLIC super-AI by 2012). It's time people start applying the propecies to this "Brave new World". This "brave new world" is the thing that has me convinced that the Second Coming is still entirely possible. There are good arguments about why He wouldnt have already, but you must consider how the very meaning of both humanity and enslavment are about to change forever. We already have countless centuries of slavery and enslavement, and even god-like weapons such as n-bombs, yet no return. This is the last straw.

Now about that "beast", of "10 horns", that could represent key nations (possibly some having their own "empires" beneath them), and it could even expand onto important key factors such as major national nodes on the beast network. Further, those major national nodes participation could result from their citizens accepting the "image" of the beast. The 3 nations that withdraw could result from major riots and rebellions from the system.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast." (Rev 17:12)

This could mean many things. In context of the new "heaven on earth", which could also be interpreted as the 'kingdom' "on earth", it could mean nations and rulers not yet aquainted with the "beast", that can "speak great words against". The "beast" has many meanings and references, many facets within the Bible. "The Beast" that I speak of is the one refernces as the "life" given unto "the image" of 'the beast' which is given th power "to speak". This particular 'beast' is the one that is most imporant to this "brave new world" becuase it'll be able to 'speak' to the 'foreheads' like no other. Then is goes even further because by definition it (this network system) will very likely have biological core processing units in its grid topology configurations.

beast
n 1: a living organism characterized by voluntary movement [syn:
animal, animate being, brute, creature, fauna]
2: a cruelly rapacious person [syn: wolf, savage, brute,
wildcat]

The worship of this "image" in the "foreheads" is mentioned 10 times in Revelation.

"Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High"

Great:
1. Relatively large in size or number or extent; larger than others of its kind;
2. More than usual;
3. (used of persons) standing above others in character or attainment or reputation;
4. Of major significance or importance;
5. Remarkable or out of the ordinary in degree or magnitude or effect;

," and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

All of that could be applied to The Beast that I target here. Each and every point, by definition. What could speak against all "High". without having an extreme edge over All minds? The Beast I describe could actually change and divide times, or our perceptions of it, neurally. In fact that could quickly become one of its major selling concepts.

It will be able to make us feel "nirvana", but if it could also extend our perception of it would be even more "valuable". This "Deep Brain Stimulation" "nirvana" effect is an absolute perk of neural implants, but the governments stated goal for this "age of transistions" is "improving human performance". The reasons made obvious by the DoC seal on the cover. The technology will become the solution to the epidemic gobal scale drug probelm, with it also offering all new ways of offering enhanced drug like neural effects without the unwanted side effects. The technolgoy WILL offer degrees of this, BUT they wont give us this unless they can control it becuase they REALLY want to give US this for "improving". They cant have a drugged out workforce, but they can control our druglike effects while offering "extended" durations of our new "powers" when not working. That would also help make up for the extended load of work the computer programs would have us running.

This could also represent the Neu Solomons Temple folks, even if the pysical one gets built. This "brave new world" is within a decade, what do you all think that means to Bible prophecy?

Originally posted by smallpeeps
Figured this'd be interesting.

www.livescience.com...

Brain Cells Fused with Computer Chip
By Ker Than
LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 27 March 2006

Looks like somewhere in some deep bunker/laboratory, somebody's been busy with stem cels and neurons. This is a very interesting line of investigation.

You may want to read my repsonse to that here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


[edit on 24-4-2006 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

we are about to replay Daniel 8:1-9 (notice that vs 10 on show the abomination of desolation original fulfillment soon after this war) against Elam (Iran).

The battles in the middle east now are a second and greater fulfillment of this. In Daniel 8, there is a he-goat that comes against Elam (Iran) that is pushing West (helping insurgents in Iraq) and the he-goat comes across the whole world (Greece was pretty close by, USA is 1/2 way around world) with speed never touching the ground (Alexander the great had no navy - this is talking about sea and air power). Notice that right after this battle in Daniel 8 in which Iran cannot stand against the "he-goat" the old testament abomination of desolation is setup which is a type and shadow of the abomination of desolation (Christians taking the mark) in the end times. The original fulfillment of the last part of Daniel 8 was Antiochus Epiphanes in about 165BC whjo sacrificed a pig on the alter of Jerusalem (nice guy). But notice that it talks about the removal of the contrinual burnt offering. That is the believers living sacrifice of Romans 12:1 - not the single sacrifices of the Old testament. So there are clues about the timing.

In Daniel 4, and Jeremiah 25, 27 we see the US as the King of Babylon in latter days fulfillment being the head of the one world government, the hammer of the world for these 7 years (was 70, now 7 this time) and then utterly destroyed in the day of the Lord. God is ordcaining that as you can see in Jeremiah. The US will take on the character of a beast, like Nebuchadnezzar, and eat grass (destroy people, 1Pet 1:24, Isa 40:6 all flesh is as grass). We can see beginnings of that now. The revival of the Roman Empire has the US at the head, but few will see this for quite a while.

It's just not possible, is it? And we sit and wonder at the aggression and the attacking of countries and the demonation of foreign lands. It is God in His sovereignty who is bring this about with the final result of testing the believers and judging the world at the end. It has always been that way.

Here is another interesting hint at the US as Rome, part II, the sequel. In Luke 13:4-5, the tower of Siloam falls during Rome part I and 18 (6+6+6) people are killed.

We just had two towers fall, the twin towers of the world trade center fall 5 years ago. Isaiah 30:25-26 talk about the great slaughter in the days that the towers fall (twin towers?).

The beast run by the US will dominate the UN who will run the world and attempt peace with one unified generic religion (cinstantine deja vu). for the next 7-8 years of the tribulation.

Could someone please post a working link to page 2? The link in the original post does not work anymore and i'm dying to finish reading the second part.

Thanks in advance.

Managerie:
Well said, and how interesting that you mentioned WTC in there. Feast your eyes on this and tell me if you think it has any added meaning with this prophecy:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

D1tk:
John bull fixed it for me (thanks John). How sad that its obviously been broken this entire time and noones has said anything.

[edit on 14-4-2006 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
D1k:
John bull fixed it for me (thanks John). How sad that its obviously been broken this entire time and noones has said anything.

That is a shame indeed. Thanks for putting all that together. Whether we like it or not that technology is happening and only time will tell how it all plays out. Thanks again.

[edit on 15-4-2006 by d1k]

the beast is a human, or even an alien, and will appear as a messiah or god to all religions, certainly isn't a man made thingy...teh beast is the antichrist...

When humans start jacking their brains into it'll be worshipped like a god and it will be omnipresent and omnipotent.

I seriously hope we don't get to the point where we are "jacking" our brains into anything...personally, I don't think there's enough time left for us to progress that far....But if we do..... Off to the Northwest Territories to live off squirrel stew and tree bark hooch faster than you can say Lucifer's Hammer! Good job on putting all that info together BTW IgnoranceIsntBliss, I appreciate the effort and obvious hard work although my own opinion differs. And BTW Managerie, for your last post....


You have voted managerie for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month

Good stuff man, I agree!

They could seriously have us jacking into super AI by 2010-12.

Here's my new video for this topic:

www.abovetopsecret.com...