Human Mutalations by aliens?

reply to post by stirling


The black dahlia case January 1947 in L.A. Cored, plugged, drained and severed. The Dyatlov Pass incident, nine cross country skiers attacked and killed. NCO killed and mutilated at military base (Kirkland AFB?)

It is much more plausible that he "Black Dahlia" case was the work of (human) serial killer. As for the "Dyatlov Pass" case, there is no evidence that unnatural forces were at work and most of the story has been exaggerated when you really look into the accounts.

Originally posted by Faiol


aliens would have the tech to create our meat, to create our organs, to create whatever they want without having to harm us, they would just need DNA

And your information on what aliens can do comes from where? Where is the evidence that aliens are all knowing and all powerful and able to create anything they want on a whim? Solid evidence, not theory, not conjecture, not whimsy.

Consider that perhaps they *don't* know everything. And perhaps, just perhaps, that's why there are abductions and mutilations--they're learning through us, using us, possibly even feeding off of the beings that live on our planet, including us....

Just a thought.

reply to post by Turiddu


At the time, seemingly baffled investigators offered the non-explanation that the group had died as a result of “a compelling unknown force” – and then simply closed the case and filed it as ‘Top Secret’. The Dyatlov Incident. There exists a link between the Elizabeth Short murder and the Dyatlov skiers, the way they were killed. The black dahlia was beaten to death before she was severed. Whatever force killed her cored her flesh and used those cores to plug her orifices so bodily fluids could not escape. The HUMAN mind would have used a wad of cloth or some other external object for that purpose.

reply to post by Omega85


if you are so upset over people making presumptions, then why do you go on to do it yourself in the next post by claiming this man was killed by extra terrestrials or ufos? i would say that is a pretty big presumption since we have no idea what killed this man. is making presumptions and accepting speculation as fact only okay if it fits your point of view?

reply to post by debris765nju


Check this site out:

www.aquiziam.com...

Many parts of the Dyatlov Pass incident were exaggerated or simply made up to add creepiness to the story.

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Dubanina’s tongue was not ripped out it was degraded through natural processes
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The radiation found was inconsequential
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The area was not sealed off to everyone – only amateur sports groups
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The case was never classified
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There are currently no records of any experimental aircraft being tested in the area in 1959
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There is no evidence (now or then) that the area was used to test weapons. However, this doesn’t rule out secret testing
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Photographs thought to be missile parts have turned out to be old radar units
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The mysterious envelope contained only general correspondence
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Photographs show that any discolouration of the bodies was wholly normal
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The woman on the train who claimed there were eleven people has turned out to be a very unreliable witness (and a different person altogether).
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The injuries discovered are explainable and consistent with those that might be expected to occur in a group of desperate and clearly frightened people that had been stumbling around in dangerous conditions in the dark.
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There is absolutely no substantiated evidence for crashed UFO’s, Concussion Weapons, Mad Mansi or Russian Death Squads.
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All the physical evidence found at the time and subsequent analysis and testing indicates that there was no avalanche. However, at least one person involved with this case still believes that an avalanche was the cause.

I find it interesting that most of the people posting on this topic think that Aliens are so advanced that they would have no reason to do such things to humans. I put this into perspective by seeing what humanity has done to its own people as well as animals. Just by naming a few topics I believe shall suffice; Nazi experimentations, Livestock processing, drug testing, child experimenting with an insect they caught. So with that in mind is it really too difficult to imagine? Do you think that as we transcend to intergalactic status our minds will really change that much?

I would also like to bring up the possibility that perhaps there are Aliens that have not really earned their technology rightfully? Instead, they maybe lived relatively close to other intelligent lifeforms and used their aggressive, war mongering nature to dominate this species and along with it obtaining advanced technologies? Many physicists (including Steven Hawking) actually believe that most intelligent life through out the universe is actually more likely to be more aggressive in nature due to the general aggressiveness it would take to survive "survival of the fittest"

In regards to the links; I found the burnt puncture marks very interesting. They almost look like what I imagine a high power laser beam wound to look like? I haven't read about animal mutilations in a while, can anyone tell me if these puncture wounds were present as well?

anyone seen this youtube video on human mutilations ??


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reply to post by Turiddu


I deal with facts which is why i don't put any faith in those sources cited.. The facts are a group of cross country skiers, at least some retired for rest suddenly were assaulted by something that materialized in their tent. It did not enter through the entrance to the tent nor did it enter through the sides as they too were intact until cut open by the knives of the campers. Something rose up through the ground and attacked all of them at once. .....The camper could not see what was attacking them and the pain was unbearable and panic ensued. Each of the campers were aware of the temperature and that being outside without protective clothing was a death sentence. Regardless, they fled partially dressed into the cold..................It has been stated that there was sufficient dry wood on the ground but they climbed a pine tree and broke off limbs for a fire. Pine needles produce a think white smoke that sticks to you. I think they did this to reveal what was attacking them. It didn't help them, they were still killed. The Mansi names for the place are "Land of the dead," and "don't go there." Pretty much tells the story.

reply to post by debris765nju



If you only deal with "the facts" then show us your "facts" to back up this bold claim:

The facts are a group of cross country skiers, at least some retired for rest suddenly were assaulted by something that materialized in their tent. It did not enter through the entrance to the tent nor did it enter through the sides as they too were intact until cut open by the knives of the campers. Something rose up through the ground and attacked all of them at once.

Please understand that the subsequent investigation found no evidence to support any of these claims.

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reply to post by Turiddu


I like you! I hope you don't mind if i use the picture of the place where the first attack occurred, it contains the actual attackers. I color enhanced the picture for the same reason the campers used pine smoke, to reveal them. What i am showing are basically human-like heads in the earth, on the tent, in the foreground of the tent and on the coats and hats of the rescue party. I recommend you start on the hat. If you need more help, just ask.

s914.photobucket.com... I created a video of these entities attacking a wildebeest, they are the apex predator on planet Earth.

This is a crime scene photograph of Elizabeth Short who the press dubbed "the black dahlia" the entities that killed her are the same type that attacked the campers.

To be honest, I don't see the "creature(s)" you are describing... do you have a clearer image?

Originally posted by 2weird2live2rare2die
reply to post by Omega85

 

if you are so upset over people making presumptions, then why do you go on to do it yourself in the next post by claiming this man was killed by extra terrestrials or ufos? i would say that is a pretty big presumption since we have no idea what killed this man. is making presumptions and accepting speculation as fact only okay if it fits your point of view?

Perhaps it would be wise to research this case. I share an opinion .
Once again, do some research . Thanks.



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reply to post by Turiddu


Sorry it took so long, i had to enhance a photo and find a way to indicate where a few of these entities are. I recommend you download the picture so you can enlarge it and the faces inside the red O's. You might be able to see them better once you see them.

reply to post by Omega85


The entities that killed this man remain in the flesh, they can be seen with the aid of a highlighter. You can find signs of them at most of the horrific unsolved murders throughout history. At least since photographing crime scenes came into vogue. They were Jack the ripper....they were all over the victims too.

IF other beings are visiting the planet then we MUST presume that they may be hostile. EVEN the great Stephen Hawking has displayed his fear for contacting aliens.

For as attacking debris765nju for not presuming that they are peaceful beings is ridiculous. In all sectors of even our own government we have analysts, that their main job is to analyze data and come up with assumptions and answer to simple problems. We too, in a way, are analysts. And we wouldnt be any good at analyzing this data it if we didnt entertain all avenues of thought.

dear "debris765nju" I am having trouble downloading your pictures for further viewing in it's native aspect ratio etc.
also have you possibly read the book Project Preserve Destiny? It doesnt have much to do with these instances of human mutilations, but it is a great read on how the government cataloged the different abductions and mutilations directly from the "aliens" themselves. Later information has proven that this was one stipulation for letting the aliens run these tests. As well as the beings were to be returned un-harmed as well as having no recollection of the events that had just transpired... It is believed that Russia never signed such an agreement with the alien beings, and further mutilations would go on without the government's consent. This could be why other nation's in the world have not been so lucky as the U.S. to have HUMAN mutilations occuring on their own soil.

reply to post by debris765nju


WTF is that supposed to be a picture of ? Looks like a leaf that has been magnified and then some hue adjustments added!

Would be helpful if you posted the original images as well as these altered images so one can get a better idea of just wtf you're trying to show

reply to post by Discotech


Sorry, that is the tent in which the nine people cut their way out, in the Dyatlov pass. It doesn't look like much either way you look at it, it is enhanced by increasing the "
saturation" which emphasizes the colors that are present. I felt that was the appropriate photograph to justify my assertions.