the palestine Israeli conflict

Originally posted by jajabinks
A few notes:
1. The Palestinians did not leave their homes in 1948 because "arab armies told them to" that is a lie repeated over and over by zionists, they were forced out by a massive terror/murder campaign similar to the one milosovich used in Kosovo during the NATO bombing in 99.

Extraordinary claims requiries extraordinary proof. One that you cannot provide so this statement although quiet interesting in a consipracy forum has yet to be substantiated.
I am not saying that massacres did not occur, I am just saying that both sides perpetrated massacres.

2. Palestinians are the indeginous people of the levant, indeginous means your grandparents were born there, and so were theirs, and so were theirs. Very few Jews in Israel/Palestine can claim this.

Not according to the UN according to the UN what qualifies you to be considered a Palestinian refugee is being Arab, being in 'Palestine' from 1946-1948. That is all. What are now Palestinians, although I suspect many of them are generations in 'Palestine', can be no different from Syrian Arabs, Egyptian Arabs or Tunisian Arabs - Arafat himself, for example, was Egytian both and raised.
Incidentally, Jews were forced to be on the move for eternety. My ancentry travellled from Iran (as far back as they can recall) due to Muslim persecution to Afganistan, to what is now Uzbekistan to Israel. And this is all prior to the 1930s. So if you'd like to talk about a national tragedy there is one on both sides. The only difference is that while the UN created the land of Israel on a small strip of land which was demographically mostly Jewish, the Muslims could not allow their overinflated pride to cope with this and had to initiate a war which was both purchased by the Jews and also inhabited by them as well. As a result of this war, which again the Arabs initiated, the Arabs lost out to some more land before the armistice treaty was signed.

3. The Palestinian "state" that the Americans/zionists are talking about will end up confining the Palestinians to 10-12 percent of the state(Israel-Palestine), an aphartied scheme, and the clinton/barak camp david plan wasn't much better, leaving Palestinians to seek "equal rights"-which would erase Israel as soon as equal rights are granted-so ofcource they elected Hamas, Fatah wasn't able to get the Palestinains enough space so they can be free and now they are confined into bantustans, either they be given more space-like 22-30% of the state with continuous territory or their must be a 1 state solution and not a jewish or muslim state. Or having Hamas & Likud in the same Parliament?

Your bias is shining through this quote. You suggest Palestinians be given MORE land and Jews dismantle their settlements from modern day accepted Israel so that the Palestinians are given what you define a viable state. Well let me tell you this.
1- A viable state can also be created with much less land. How can it be viable? Have the Palestinians stop hostilities, terrorism and make peace and their economic conditions will improve considerably.
2- If you truely want hostilities you cannot have a one state solution because then you will have clashes since contradicting interests will cause a civil war. A one state solution is truely the most unintelligent of all the choices. Look anywhere in the world where there are Muslims there is also wars associated with political/religious undertones (Egypt with the Coptic christians, Indonesia, Iraq, Sudan, Pakistan).
3- You seem to lack simple understanding of the demographics of Israel and Palestine. This is probably from the sources you refer to. Equal rights for the Palestinians? Equal right for what? They have their territory and everyone hopes their country. So they will have equal rights there, in Palestine. To vote, to live, to work, to behead infidels. What more rights should they be given? Like voting in the Israeli Parliment as well? Will Jews be given the right to vote in the Palestinian parliment too?
You seem to like using the words related to apartheid so why don't you use it were actual apartheid themes are enforced like in Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt. Palestinians that were born and raised there have no rights what so ever. In Israel all Arabs born and raised there are full citizens with full rights (execpt those who choose to waiver that right).
I suggest you clarify your point of view and get some proof to back-up your extraordinary claims.