Seeing "images" when you close your eyes...

Over the past few years, it seems when I close my eyes to go to sleep or to rest my eyes I see images of very bad things. It reminds me of when you shut your eyes and try and imagine something, like being at a concert or something of that sort. Recently, however, when I close my eyes I see blood...cutting of flesh... really gruesome things. It's not a dream because this happens every day and it's prior to sleep. Sadly I'm not a big dreamer so I don't often remember what I dream about. Just for the record, I have dabbled very lightly into magick but NOTHING having to do with black magick whatsoever. These flashes of images don't scare me anymore... they're just commonplace now, but still very weird to me. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

[edit on 1-2-2006 by BrawleR]

You are lucid dreaming, half-in - half-out. For some it is easier to transition. Next time, with little effort, entertain and try to focus on the images (little effort or it will be counter-productive). Thinks good thughts and the images will remain good. AAC

Its called having an imagination. People have very little control over their imagination.

One day you happened to imagine gory things when you closed your eyes. Then you do it the next day for NO reason because you felt like it.

Now you can't stop it from happening. Its simple as that. I apologize for being so blunt but I have no better way of explaining it.

Yeahh, heres my story... my grandmother died 3 years befroe i was born, so i never met her, ok... she loved ladybugs,...to keep a long story short, 3 years ago i was going throuhg a tough time, during that time a lady bug one day landed on my arm and stayed there for a long time, it wouldn't move. 2 weeks ago, while at work a lady bug was on the floor, i stopped right before i stepped on it, almost like i wasn't controlling when i stopped, it is winter in canada , how would a lady bug be on a floor in the middle of winter? 2 nights later before i go to sleep i got these images of a golden arm pointing to the lady bug that i saw on the floor, almost like it was a message from my grandmother... so i dunno what to think

Too answer a question, a lady bug would be in the house because of winter...I mean, insects don't like cold, where do you think they go when its cold? They find shelter. A house is shelter. But otherwise thats quite an interesting story.

yeah, I guess that makes sense, I don't know much about ladybugs but it would make sense that they would stay in awarm place throughout the winter, but what were these images that i saw... the golden arm pointing towrds the lady bug?>

i to experience visions

such as i remember having a vision of a double bladed scythe that seemed to have many of the same scythe blade about 3 on each side and some vampira smiling along with a vampire who's was about to be beheaded with the scythe i imagined. but he seemed to be in pain and his neck was out streched and everything it was WEIRD

Yeah I have this often, when my imagination is running wild for no reason at all. I normally have a bit of fun with this and allow it to take control for a short time.

I have had a few deaths in my family that were close to me and kind of unsuspected, so I have had some unresolved issues for along time, so its times like these that I kind of sit back and enjoy it for a moment.

Its only through my dreams and imagination that I find my connection can continue with lost family, so I enjoy these times.

It is hard to say what it is that our minds are connected to.
There are many theories as to what makes up the mind and how it is that we function within our bodies.We know much of the physical aspects of our bodies,but when it comes to the psychosis of the human mind and why we percieve certain things at different times.

There is too much for me to say now.But here are two really good movies that the scarecrow really likes.They tie into these things a little but the paranormal alot.Event Horizon,In The Mouth Of Madness.

When it comes to us being human alot of people shirk certain things off to be right or wrong.Where as conduct of a human being is suggested to be of a certain creed.Many people go through their whole lives on medication and in institutions or tormented with suggested psychological "problems" as it were
due to the abscence of understanding of the true human being which has many different urges and habits due to different reason's.Many doctors and people have a very limited level of understanding due to mainly studying or hearing about certain things and taking these facts as people call them to be true.

When most people easily say that its just your imagination.We have really no understanding of what our imagination is or how we go about creating or using or brains in such a way to picture whole worlds within our minds or dream of these places in our sleep.


I am finding in my research many many interesting facts and puzzles that all say one thing.Perception is key.
All for now.Scarecrow.

I don't know about you, Brawler, but on the contrary of the few posts so far the images that I see when I close my eyes are when I am just starting to attempt to go to sleep; It isn't a state of half-in, half-out. However, I do agree with an analysis that focusing on something good or innocent will either change the images or make them go away. I usually think of my fiancee and I have no problems.

In my past, the images have been more of demonic looking faces or entities. Never really an act per se, just faces. Hope this helps,
Radardog

The experience being described is hypnagogic dreaming and it is a perfectly normal, likely necessary, experience of Stage One sleep. The fact that there are nightmare experiences taking place is in many ways a separate issue. Perhaps you will find some useful information from the DREAM Foundation.

well Brawler,

I hate to say it but you very well could have brought this on to yourself. There is a reason that mankind is not meant to delve into the realm of magic, spiritualism, and/or divination. These methods open up doorways meant to be kept shut. I realize that you think there is a definitive line between "white" magic and "black" (I used to also), but magick is magic is majic. It's all a different form of something that is meant to be forbidden to us, for good reason. Anyway, there are ways to remove this from your life, if you choose to. The answer has probably been offered to you, by someone who cares for you very much in your life, yet was perhaps blown off as another attempt to convert you. The truth is no one can convert another person. Conversion comes from within. Seek and you shall find. The answer will come again.

i once came across a picture of a sillouette. if you stared at it long enough, then close your eyes an image of christ's face would appear on the inside of your eyelids. crazy? you know it.

if anyone new where to get that image i would much appreciate a link

Jesus Silhouette Optical Illusion

Note that this illusion involves the phenomenon of retinal negative after-imaging. Basically, when you fix your gaze on an image, on anything really, light enters the eye and causes a chemical reaction to take place in the retina. The area of the retina that is stimulated becomes desensitized, causing a persistent negative afterimage that lasts for a short period of time.

There are many, many natural biological occurrences that people attach moralizing conceptions to, but there is no reason to berate someone for their past or present activities because they are experiencing recurring nightmares. It is perfectly normal to have nightmares in any state of dreaming, especially during a state of hypnogogia. They are not punishments. That is really a negative and superstitious way to regard any neurological experience. While there may be the odd individuals who don't remember ever having a nightmare, we all certainly experience them on a fairly regular basis. If you are experiencing persistent nightmares to the point that it is affecting the quality of your life then there are things that can be done to help the situation. You can start by consulting your physician.

For me it is a quite normal thing when I'm trying to do OBE.
The only strange thing is, that I ONLY see house images, i mean, inside their rooms.
Well, maybe deep inside I have some fixation about house's rooms

Does anyone have the opposite problem? Ever since i was a child and used hear of peoples dreams and imagination ive wondered if other people actually see things in there or just lie about it.

When i close my eyes i only ever see black, or the light coming thru my eyelids, i can think of things like past pictures i might remember, but i cant "see" them. When you talk about seeing things when you close your eyes, it it more of a memory you remember, or do you actually see the image in all its colours depth clarity etc? Im asking everyone here not just the topic starter.

Until recently I had never experienced seeing things with my eyes closed. However in the last month, it has began to happen and now happens frequently. There is a difference between dreaming, thinking and seeing things with your eyes closed. When you dream you are asleep and unable to physically control your body (usually). When you are thinking about something you cannot zoom in and study the detail of what you're seeing because you are creating the thought (usually). When you are seeing things with your eyes closed both of the previous states are combined. You are not controlling what you are seeing by thought, and you are able to consciously control your physical body. In effect, you are dreaming whilst awake and aware. Ofte when it happens to me, I find it difficult to distinguish where the thought ended and the dream begins, however the whole time I am well aware that I am awake and can open my eyes at any time. I remember on one occasion last week I was looking at a page in a book, and thought to zoom in and check how clearly I could see how everything was written. I was even having trouble distinguishing if I was using my physical eyes or my minds eye, as strange as that may sound.

Originally posted by mytym
There is a difference between dreaming, thinking and seeing things with your eyes closed. When you dream you are asleep and unable to physically control your body (usually). When you are thinking about something you cannot zoom in and study the detail of what you're seeing because you are creating the thought (usually). When you are seeing things with your eyes closed both of the previous states are combined. You are not controlling what you are seeing by thought, and you are able to consciously control your physical body. In effect, you are dreaming whilst awake and aware.

Stage One sleep is typified as being a state between awake and sleeping states. This is the state known as hypnogogia and also the state many would describe as lucid dreaming. You may drift in and out of a stage one state without progressing into full sleep, at any time really. Often it is the dreams we experience in states of hypnogogia that are the most easily remembered. States of amnesia are the norm for dream experiences; all of us are not retaining the vast bulk of our dream experiences.

It is a very difficult thing to make easy statements about various levels of Sleep State. Images that are consciously thought up are different from the hallucinosis of a dream state, but it is excessively difficult to gauge the quality of mental imaging performed from individual to individual. There are certainly individuals who seem to possess what is popularly termed a "photographic memory" who are able to interact to a great degree with their recalled images. There are also many individuals in the arts, sciences (likely all walks of life) with what may be termed "vivid" imaginations who are able to generate and interact with their "thought-forms" in a very plastic manner. All of this likely relates to very complex issues of neurotransmitter actions and numerous other factors.

There's a huge language inadequacy when it comes to describing dreaming, thinking, cognition in general, and the experience of "mental images". From personal experience I know that I can generate complex pictures in my "mind's eye" that I can sometimes retain or reproduce, but often can't, that are not based on direct sensory input and so must be regarded as deriving from a "higher" brain function incorporating "information" from my visual memory. Despite this, there is a fundamental connection to normal seeing, as neurological studies have shown that individuals who lose their sight also lose all of the brain's "visualization mechanisms". The truly blind do not dream in visual images and can not spontaneously generate such images. Individuals who regain their eyesight through surgery or other means often face a long and sometimes trying period of convalescence as their brains redevelop means to organize the sensory input.

Variations of this are how I come up with ideas when I have none. I either close my eyes and start writing down the things I see until they trigger new ideas, or I look at clouds and other patterns for images in them. Just now, I saw a cloud that looked like Jessica Rabbit, for example.

Personally, I embrace it. It's helpful to me. And it's influenced by things I have been doing or looking at, recently. If I watch a movie and obsess about it for a while, I start seeing things from that movie in my visual imagination.

similar thing happens to me, i have to open up abit and relex and want to see it

i see swirly patterns, people i dont knows faces, aliens, animals and other stuff
either its my subconcious or being sent to me from elsewhere i dont know

but ye