Do you ever wonder if the Roman Empire had never fallen how great the world would be right now?....

reply to post by TheyLive


You are absulutly right, The roman empire got hidden
behind the Catholic church, to strategicly continue
to corupted, conquer and expend his empire

The Roman empire, is now a hidden, secret society

The Roman Empire used the collapsed strategy,
to hide the power of the empire, behind the
Catholic church and the corupted countries.

reply to post by DeusEx


How can you knock the romans when at the time they were the most advanced civilization in the world. If you are going to put them down, then put down all the other cultures even more. You are obviously jealous.

The last Roman emperor gave up his throne.
Romulus Augustus was only 17 when his adopted
fath dies in battle. He voluntarily gave up the throne.
Odoacer then ruled as King of the Hun and Rome.

Referring to the start of this thread it is extremely evident that people have taken the 'deny ignorance' label of this site in self-context. This is therefore a great irony as ignorance infers that one does not know or understand that which is ones error in the first place - so how can one deny it. Perhaps there should be a parallel site to this one which is labelled 'Accept Denial' - after all it is easier to assume & to be ignorant rather than to pursue the path of truth with a little self-direction & a personal awakening.

The Roman Empire was the emodiement of complete fascism on Earth and the manifestation of a people who worshipped the pleasures of the flesh 'only' above their higher purpose on this Earth. Remember that the only thing you can count on in this world is that you will definitely get what you desire - but be careful what you wish for...

The source of all fascist regimes that have ever come to existence on this Earth is through the religious beliefs of Pagan doctrines. If we do our research correctly as individuals (otherwise one will never truly understand for oneself) one will find that these outposts of decadence fell from physical existence at the hand of their own peoples and their fruitless desire of 'Progress'.

These so called 'Empires' spread themselves physically too far in their quest to enslave the 'free' in pursuit of Earthly spoils at the expense of human suffering. Most people think that the majority of the victims in these cases are innocents, but what they fail to realize is that nobody is truly innocent as we eventually all answer for that which we do not stand for or stand up for in life. The majority of the Roman public ate up every cheap thrill that their 'leaders' promised them only to realize that they had sold their own souls into destruction.....which is exactly what they received. As I said, be careful what one wishes for.

The result of Pagan 'Empires' in ALL cases is their own destruction and the transmutation of their morally corrupt hidden leaders to take a different form which is almost always the inception of the same deceptive ethos elsewhere. These same so called 'leaders' do not hesitate to sell their own people to the dust of the Earth in order for personal gain. It is ironic however that at the center of these leaders and their peoples is a belief that both had subscribed to. This is what is truly referred to as mutual destruction.

Call this result 'evil' if you will, but this is the foundation of self-judgement and is unfortunately a 'necessary evil' in as much as all people are created free but actually enslave themselves by that which they are ignorant of and do not take a stand against - this has been part of human creation since our inception and is a cyclic eventuality.

If we look at the current world empire which is undoubtedly the United States of America we will see that the intention of the founders was to build a society of 'freedom' (this always seems to be the initial ideal thus the inevitable deception is easily overlooked). This intention has since been squandered by powerful esoteric Pagan influences within the office of power, and is the result of a lack of resistance by the people to protect their rights to human freedoms.

The majority of the USA's sovereign peoples have been consuming in excess whilst squandering their own freedoms for the same cheap thrills as the Romans - all the while the 'beasts' of revelation have been consuming 'sovereign souls' under 'guise'. This is the reason for the current destruction of a once great empire.

So in answer to the initial point that we would all be better off under the Romans, perhaps more of us should open our eyes and realize that we still are! The eventual prize is self-destruction not greatness- truly a 'Prison Planet'.

The truth is all around, you just have to seek it in the first place. A faith in god is the only saviour. Remember that we reap what we sow and it is now harvest time.

haha
rome did not fall
how could it without legs?

It's not the Roman Empire that would have given those sorts of advances, as their military budget was so bloated - they were also more generally interested in art and conquest by the end than in science.

However, if the Egyptian Empire had of continued, that is where the world would have seen massive, early advances.

The Egyptians figured out how to turn stone wheels with steam, a bamboo pole, and holes drilled in opposing sides. If they had of figured out how to turn that stone on it's side with GEARS, the industrial revolution would have come about 4,000 years earlier. It was a simple step to take, but they never made the connection.

Originally posted by Flinx

Originally posted by THENEO

Flix or whatever your name is,

how can Rome be responsible for 99% of all people today?

Figure it out yourself moron.

I know it'll be hard for you to form a coherent thought but give it a try.

[Edited on 10/6/2003 by Flinx]

Mods, this post looks like a direct attack on someone asking a simple question.

I agree, how can Roman ancestors equate for 99% of people alive today? There were a lot more Chinese, Huns, and Native Indians than Romans, before we even look at African ancestry.

4 pages long and still no one has mentioned the "all roads lead to rome thread", easily the greatest thread written on ATS!

The roman empire was not a global power it was a regional power and it would of never been a global power.