War In Nagorno Karabakh Can Start At Any Moment

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

Don't know why our media totally ignores it

Thanks!

I believe the answer is oil, not from Karabakh, but from Baku via the BTC-pipeline. They want to keep getting supplied with oil from there, and don't want to step on someone's toes, so they prefer to ignore it. Once in a while, they voice support for Azerbaijan but otherwise keep quiet. Baku has alot of oil! in 1901, Baku produced more than half of the world's oil. Hitler probably lost the war, because he failed to seize the oil fields in Baku. Turkey also has a history with Armenia.


Republic of Artsakh

No UN member states have recognised Artsakh, although some other unrecognised states have done so.

Speaking of Syria, it has been proposed to extend the BTC-pipeline to Israel (look at the map and do the math). But that goes for another thread.

Armenian Civil War "likely"

New video of Azerbaijan army buildup at the frontline. Azerbaijani MP says Armenian Civil War is likely, and calls for reclaiming Karabakh.


Karabakh MOD releases new footage of Azerbaijan army buildup at frontline

01.05.2018


The Azerbaijani armed forces once again amassed and relocated military equipment and manpower at the frontline on Monday, and this continued on Tuesday.

Azerbaijani MP Warns of Likely Armenian Civil War, Calls for Reclaiming Karabakh

01.05.2018


Azerbaijani lawmaker Gudrat Hasanguliyev warned on Tuesday that the situation in Armenia might turn into a civil war and insisted that Baku should use the opportunity to return the breakaway region of Nagorno-Karabakh.

I don't take any side in this conflict. I don't care who gets to live in future Karabakh. It's not my fight. But I'm against war, and that's why my attention is on this region. Some see war as the only solution. Hopefully it can be resolved peacefully, but it doesn't look good. If Trump can resolve the Korea conflict and this conflict peacefully, maybe he should indeed get the Nobel price, but let's see what happens. One miracle looks possible now in Korea. Are two miracles too much to hope for? Korea alone will get him nominated, I guess. Landmines will be a problem for a long time, even if a peaceful solution is found. Right now, it looks like a larger war could break out any minute.

"Three Countries"

Karabakh doesn't participate in negotiations, and peace is fragile...


Armenia cannot speak on behalf of Karabakh: Will the Armenian Deputy FM get Nobel Prize for his discovery?

24 May 2018


“I am surprised at the excitement [around the issue],” he said. “It is obvious that it is impossible to achieve any progress without participation of the main party of the conflict [did he really mean Nagorno-Karabakh?]. The non-participation of Nagorno-Karabakh is due to the resistance of Azerbaijan. On the other hand, the [OSCE Minsk Group] co-chairs are well aware that Armenia cannot negotiate on behalf of Nagorno-Karabakh.”

Shavarsh Kocharyan was sharing with reporters a revelation that apparently visited him in a dream, saying the “three countries” should work together for a peaceful resolution.

Is there anything surprising in this? Indeed there is! Kocharyan’s statement is truly a sensation, as it calls into question the essence of the negotiation process of the last two decades.

Which three countries are meant by Kocharyan? Azerbaijan, Armenia and …? Is it really Nagorno-Karabakh? But wait a minute. Mr. Geneticist was apparently not reminded that Nagorno-Karabakh is not recognized by any country in the world. After all, even Armenia itself has not recognized the "independence" of Nagorno-Karabakh!

However, as British political analyst Thomas de Waal noted in his article, Armenia’s Revolution and the Karabakh Conflict, “a moribund peace process is in need of reinvigorating. But Armenia’s new leaders need to be careful how they use the legitimacy they have won from the street. The Karabakh negotiating process is a delicate structure. Its collapse would point only one way, toward new conflict.”

"Show of Force"

A couple of "accidents" at Mingachevir Thermal Plant causes mass blackout and paralyzes Azerbaijani military exercises. It also impacted Azerbaijan’s petroleum production negatively.


Mass Blackout in Azerbaijan; Accident at Mingachevir Thermal Plant Paralyzes Azerbaijani Military Exercises

July 6, 2018


39 cities and regions, including the capital Baku and Ganja, Azerbaijan’s second largest city, were engulfed in darkness, resulting in widespread traffic jams and people stuck in subways and elevators.

Water distribution was shut down and the country’s petroleum production was negatively impacted.

“Accidents can happen. They can’t be ruled out. But for the entire power grid to be impacted due to an accident is a serious matter. Why has the country been thrust into darkness? Why did the electric stations in Baku, Sumgait and other towns stop working after the incident in Mingachevir?” Aliyev asked.

And the July 3 fire wasn’t the only one. Another fire broke out on July 5 at the same thermal power station according to MeydanTV.

The accident at Mingachevir coincided with the start of large Azerbaijani military exercises on July 2, involving 20,000 troops, 120 tanks, 30 aircraft, and more than 200 missile systems. Exercises were also conducted in Nakhijevan.

Azerbaijani Defense Minister Zakir Hasanov declared that the exercises were a “show of force” to Armenia.

In other words, the Mingachevir accident, and its consequences, have shown that in the event of a largescale war, by merely destroying the Mingachevir Reservoir dam, Armenian military forces can not only inflict a blackout on Azerbaijan and paralyze its military, but can also flood the Kur-Arax valley under its 16.1 cubic km of water, with all its consequences.

EU pushing again on the Nagorno-Karabakh front, for confrontation. This will end badly for NATO-Georgia. Very bad !

a reply to: Flanker86

I cannot find anything in the news. Youtube is down worldwide, and I cannot see webcams and videos from Karabakh when Youtube is down. What's happening?

Heavy fighting has erupted in Karabakh


Armenia and Azerbaijan erupt into fighting over disputed Nagorno-Karabakh

Heavy fighting has erupted between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region, with both civilians and combatants killed.

Accusing Azerbaijan of air and artillery attacks, Armenia reported downing helicopters and destroying tanks, and declared martial law.

Azerbaijan said it had begun a counter-offensive in response to shelling.

There's a new thread here:

Azerbaijan and Armenia clash over disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region

I've just seen some new videos from the battlefield. These videos show dead Azerbaijani soldiers. Not just a few, but many. I can't post them here because of the gore.

The video below shows some of the fighting, but without the gore and close-ups of dead people.

There are many millions of Armenians and Azerbaijanis across the world. Many of them are now heading home to join the war.

a reply to: Hellmutt

That is a scary prospect, war isn't in anyone's best interests.....apart from maybe Erdogan and possibly even Putin.

I've just heard that a Turkish F-16 has been shot down. And Turkish soldiers are fighting together with the Azerbaijani army.

What a mess!


I mean, whole situation is there bad .

originally posted by: Hellmutt
I've just heard that a Turkish F-16 has been shot down. And Turkish soldiers are fighting together with the Azerbaijani army.

I have heard that a Turkish F-16 have shoot down a SU 25....? And that Turkey have denied it.......

Both sides blame each other for civilian casualties.

Stepanakert

a reply to: Hellmutt

Hellmutt where art thou.................................... "Russia airlifts 2,000 troops to Nagorno Karabakh to block Azeri advance" www.debka.com...

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Thank you! Yeah, I've been busy with some other stuff. They've signed a peace deal.


Nagorno-Karabakh peace deal brokered by Moscow prompts anger in Armenia

Russian peacekeepers have deployed to Nagorno-Karabakh after Moscow brokered a peace deal that sparked celebrations in Azerbaijan and protests in Armenia, where demonstrators briefly occupied government buildings.

The truce, announced late on Monday night, calls for the deployment of nearly 2,000 Russian peacekeepers to the disputed enclave, where Azerbaijan will receive significant territorial concessions from an Armenian-backed local government.

Since fighting began in late September, thousands have been killed and more than 100,000 displaced in the worst fighting since the early 1990s.

Russia on Tuesday denied that Turkish peacekeepers would be allowed to deploy to Nagorno-Karabakh despite claims that they would by Azerbaijan’s president, Ilham Aliyev.

a reply to: Hellmutt Russia allowing Turkish military into the ex soviet Union, can't see them allowing that one way or another. Looks like Armenia were going to lose this one and Russia stepped in before the Azeri's gained a foothold to bring in the Turks. How long has this Russian Turkish battle been going on one way or another like three hundred years or something