U.S. House : run like a plantation

I hate to admit it...but I agree with Sen. CLinton

Sen. Clinton: House 'has been run like a plantation'

The levels of corruption, cronyism, and deception and totally unacceptable. Where will it end? Everyone knows it is impossible for a "common man" to be elected to either the House or the Senate. Are any of us truly represented?? I say NO.



[edit on 1/17/2006 by BostonBill99]

Originally posted by BostonBill99
Everyone knows it is impossible for a "common man" to be elected to either the House or the Senate.

You mean, like her husband? Oh wait, he 'only' made it to the presidency. Is she saying that she isn't a regular person then?

She may not be, but I am.

I never said she wasn't a part of that corruption, nor did I say her ex-President hubby wasn't either.

I do agree with her point. Are we truly represented. I say NO.

Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by BostonBill99
Everyone knows it is impossible for a "common man" to be elected to either the House or the Senate.

You mean, like her husband? Oh wait, he 'only' made it to the presidency. Is she saying that she isn't a regular person then?

Just for clarification...what is a common man?

Poor?
Blue Collar?
Moderatly Well-Off?
Rich?
Spoon fed?

just asking?

Or does it have to be somehting like character and trustworthyness? Confused...

No Clinton ran the white house like a "Chicken pen"

I believe that the Bush administration will be deemed in history as a very corrupt one.

Taking in consideration that The Republican Party had both houses and the presidential seat.

Things has been left to corruption and greed.

Originally posted by Arcane Demesne

Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by BostonBill99
Everyone knows it is impossible for a "common man" to be elected to either the House or the Senate.

You mean, like her husband? Oh wait, he 'only' made it to the presidency. Is she saying that she isn't a regular person then?

Just for clarification...what is a common man?

Poor?
Blue Collar?
Moderatly Well-Off?
Rich?
Spoon fed?

just asking?

Or does it have to be somehting like character and trustworthyness? Confused...

All of the above.

Could you wake up this morning and decide for yourself "heck, I am gonna run for President!"...? Well, you could, but you'd be delusional.

Without the support (read...sell your soul to) the moneyed elite (read...current senators and congressmen and lobbyists) of the current administration, you wouldn't have a chance.

[edit on 1/17/2006 by BostonBill99]

Originally posted by BostonBill99
All of the above.

Could you wake up this morning and decide for yourself "heck, I am gonna run for President!"...? Well, you could, but you'd be delusional.

Without the support (read...sell your soul to) the moneyed elite (read...current senators and congressmen and lobbyists) of the current administration, you wouldn't have a chance.

[edit on 1/17/2006 by BostonBill99]

Heh heh. I suppose every man is common in his own right.

So, are you sayig that in order to get anywhere in this government, you have to whore your interests and your thoughts out, for new positions?

Sounds about right to me.

I’m sorry but unless I'm missing something I fail to see what a plantation has to do with the current situation. Could someone explain to me its significance.

Originally posted by WestPoint23
I fail to see what a plantation has to do with the current situation. Could someone explain to me its significance.

On a Southern Plantation all orders came from the plantation house. Dissent was not tolerated. You were beat or killed for it. Master/slave situation vs. Leader/populace situation.

Hillary has said that dissenting views are not given voice on the house floor.

Most of the people in our government have their views bought and paid for by those that financed their campaign.

The soulless global corporation is the voice of the house majority. The people are enslaved by relative poverty and percieved dependence upon the plantation's grid. Their true voice goes unheard as big business continually wins seats. When the people elect leaders there awareness is skewed towards the man who is most highly back (sold out) financially, because he is the one who can afford the propoganda campaign necessary to become elected in today's republic. It is a viscious cycle. But it is designed to be hieracrchical... keeping ultrarich war mongers at the top.

Red white and blue my ass. This place was better off when natives migrated with the buffalo.

I'm tired of the concrete... the high tension lines, the oil, asphalt, assault weapons... the pollution, plastic, and cancer. Let it burn. I'd rather see my children rebuild from ashes and rubble than live enslaved to a corrupt government bent on world domination, pilfering every last resource out of our already scarred mother earth.

Sri Oracle

In other words Bush have not need of the congress to do what ever he seems fit to rule the nation.

Better a plantation than a brothel, I always say:

On January 26, a visibly flustered President Clinton addressed the public in a White House press conference and issued a forceful denial:

"Now, I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech. And I worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time — never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people."

The components of the scandal, including:

extramarital sex;

sex with a woman many years his junior;

sex with an intern, indicating a possible abuse of power;

sexual acts considered outside of the mainstream by many Americans,
including anilingus;

possibility of perjury by the President;

'betrayal' of friendship by Linda Tripp;

the President's public disavowal;

the President assuring his own cabinet the allegations were untrue;

the President facing an impeachment trial by the Senate;

en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 2006/1/17 by GradyPhilpott]

Please dont compare the atrocities that Mrs. Clinton is speaking of to a dude gettin a hummer.

Its a bit different than trying to rule the populace with an iron fist (or fists), manipulating information, stealing liberties under the veil of protection, and accepting no alternative views or compromise.

Hillary has said that dissenting views are not given voice on the house floor.

Yes they are, what Hilary may not like is the fact that she is on the minority end of the stick, as such, many of her views about certain issues will not always come to pass, that in turn brings us to the idea that “dissenting views are not given voice in the house floor.”

That is what I said Grady Clinton ran the white house like a chicken pen, or I mean chicken house.

I don't think that Hillary would have been very happy to be called "Madam"

Originally posted by WestPoint23
I’m sorry but unless I'm missing something I fail to see what a plantation has to do with the current situation. Could someone explain to me its significance.

The use of the term "plantation" on The Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Junior Day was sheer imflammatory political rhetoric. Southern plantations initially used slave labor.

[edit on 2006/1/17 by GradyPhilpott]

Originally posted by marg6043
That is what I said Grady Clinton ran the white house like a chicken pen, or I mean chicken house.

I missed that. More commonly, bothels are known as cathouses in the vernacular.

[edit on 2006/1/17 by GradyPhilpott]

Originally posted by DaFunk13
Its a bit different than trying to rule the populace with an iron fist (or fists), manipulating information, stealing liberties under the veil of protection, and accepting no alternative views or compromise.

That's a real good epitome of Clinton's tenure as President--raping the Second Amendment, lying to Congress, and ruining the careers of dissenters, not to mention the lives of his paramours.

The use of plantation on The Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Junior Day was sheer imflammatory political rhetoric. Southern Plantations initially used slave labor.

Yes I thought of that, however the optimist in me was desperately hoping for something other then political rhetoric, stupid me, what else can I expect from a politician?

This is tantamount to going before a Jewish group and saying the House is like Auschwitz.

It has no basis in reality and is offensive.

Funny thing, the 2000 blacks at the speech not only applauded her remark not one has spoken out against it.


So why are you offended? She was right and said the same thing in 2004. Of course she stole the comment from Newt Gingrich who said it back in the 90's about the Democratically controlled Senate. This point was brought up by Wesley Clark today on Fox but quickly run over by the moderator.

[edit on 1/17/2006 by nativeokie]