9/11 Pentagon: The Mystery of the Moved Taxi

a reply to: RubyGray

Ruby. There are many reasons why the CIT narrative crashed and burned long ago, and it’s credibility did not walk away from the crash.

a reply to: Hulseyreport

FYI.
Here is the link to the full version of the interview done by Craig Ranke with ROBERT TURCIOS.

It contains the details omitted from the version you have been watching.

18:55 - 30:22
The PentaCon - Smoking Gun Version


After this, there are the full interviews with SERGEANT WILLIAM LAGASSE and SERGEANT CHADWICK BROOKS.

a reply to: Hulseyreport

You asked me some time ago, for the proof that Sgt William Lagasse denied that the plane flew across the bridge and hit any poles there.

Here belatedly is that info for you.

It is to be found on the video above.

a reply to: Hulseyreport

Although he never admitted to it, STEVE RISKUS was driving right on LLOYDE ENGLAND's tail when the plane flew across Route 27 right in front of them, and the pole hit the cab.

Steve Riskus took a famous photo at 1 minute post impact of the exact spot where Lloyde's cab was hit, north of the Columbia Pike overhead sign opposite the Heliport, which shows black skidmarks and shattered windscreen glass on the highway.

So what Steve Riskus witnessed, is what happened to Lloyde England, and it is also the view that Lloyde had, but from a little further north.

Riskus drew his location in on several overhead photos for an Italian website, as shown below:







STEVE RISKUS was absolutely a Northside eyewitness.

So was LLOYDE ENGLAND.

a reply to: Hulseyreport

FATHER STEPHEN MCGRAW stated that his car was just a few feet away from Lloyde England's cab.

He said that it was NOT a big long lightpole that speared Lloyde's cab, and that he SAW the EVIDENCE of the pole inside the cab.

McGraw was stationary on the northern end of Route 27, northbound, opposite the Heliport, when the plane flew over his head.

He said that he then got out of his car and walked straigt across the lanes of traffic, directly onto the lawn where the Triage area was later set up, where he waited for the first victims to be brought out.

CIT called him a liar, and said he was not even there until photographed about 15 minutes later by MARK FARAM.

But that is not true.

There is just a single frame in the video taken from the northern lawn, which shows Father McGraw standing right there, just north of the overhead sign opposite the Heliport, at 3 minutes after the impact, exactly as he stated.

Therefore, Father Stephen McGraw is a NORTHSIDE EYEWITNESS.

Since McGraw was up there opposite the Heliport, so was LLOYDE ENGLAND there - again, just as he testified.

a reply to: RubyGray

Anything to keep the CIT lie alive.

a reply to: RubyGray

What did people attest to seeing knocking over crap on the way to crashing into the pentagon?

a reply to: RubyGray

Hey ruby. Is that another picture of a gurney on the lawn. Gurneys you said weren’t used?


Hahahahahaha

a reply to: Hulseyreport

Starting to understand why you cannot let a person like Ruby forget their falsehoods and you have to keep listing their credibility issues. Ruby can make up crap faster than you can fact check. It’s hard to find truth, it’s easy to create lies when there is no regard for truth. Don’t let them move the goalpost. Pin those falsehoods to the owner.

originally posted by: RubyGray
a reply to: Hulseyreport

FYI.
Here is the link to the full version of the interview done by Craig Ranke with ROBERT TURCIOS.

It contains the details omitted from the version you have been watching.

18:55 - 30:22
The PentaCon - Smoking Gun Version

After this, there are the full interviews with SERGEANT WILLIAM LAGASSE and SERGEANT CHADWICK BROOKS.

Where the video, not there?

originally posted by: RubyGray
a reply to: Hulseyreport

You asked me some time ago, for the proof that Sgt William Lagasse denied that the plane flew across the bridge and hit any poles there.

Here belatedly is that info for you.

It is to be found on the video above.

Ruby you keep forgetting the plane 124 feet wide.
 Sgt William Lagasse
It, not a northside witness his a southwest witness.

Maps show it.
This is the bridge
To your right ( not the left side) is the Petrol station. And also the left side of the Navy Annex building ( you see the spire thing?)
How can the plane be at the cemetery?

Everything I have seen, even your evidence, the airplane was flying along the path of red dots.



The plane was nowhere near the cementry.

originally posted by: RubyGray


18:55 - 30:22
The PentaCon - Smoking Gun Version

Fixed the youtube link.

Ruby compare both images spire in both.

originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: RubyGray


18:55 - 30:22
The PentaCon - Smoking Gun Version

Fixed the youtube link.

Thankyou

originally posted by: Hulseyreport

Your story is plane was flying in the spot marked X ( Red) Northside.
The radar places the plane near the bridge ) spot marked X ( Blue)
The radar places the plane flying in from a southwest direction.

You have somewhat misrepresented my point with this image from the FAA /NORAD animation.

This shows the plane in red, and its flightpath as a red line, as it flew towards the Pentagon from across the Navy Annex.
As can be seen in this animation, the flightpath passes far north of the official flightpath across the bridge.

The red X you have added, is not where I say the plane flew.
That is the position of STEVE RISKUS on Route 27 when he saw the plane fly over the highway not far in front of him.

LLOYDE ENGLAND was just to the right of your red X, a few yards south of Riskus.

England and Riskus were drivinng along beside the bank of the cemetery on Route 27.

But the cemetery parking lot, over which the left wing of the plane flew according to Sgt Lagasse and al the cemetery employee witnesses, is just to the left of the plane on this screenshot, on the Columbia Pike exit road.

a reply to: RubyGray

Ruby. What did the north flight path witnesses see hit the pentagon?

Why will CIT no release all their video? Just what they have edited?

originally posted by: RubyGray

originally posted by: Hulseyreport

Your story is plane was flying in the spot marked X ( Red) Northside.
The radar places the plane near the bridge ) spot marked X ( Blue)
The radar places the plane flying in from a southwest direction.

You have somewhat misrepresented my point with this image from the FAA /NORAD animation.

This shows the plane in red, and its flightpath as a red line, as it flew towards the Pentagon from across the Navy Annex.
As can be seen in this animation, the flightpath passes far north of the official flightpath across the bridge.

The red X you have added, is not where I say the plane flew.
That is the position of STEVE RISKUS on Route 27 when he saw the plane fly over the highway not far in front of him.

LLOYDE ENGLAND was just to the right of your red X, a few yards south of Riskus.

England and Riskus were drivinng along beside the bank of the cemetery on Route 27.

But the cemetery parking lot, over which the left wing of the plane flew according to Sgt Lagasse and al the cemetery employee witnesses, is just to the left of the plane on this screenshot, on the Columbia Pike exit road.

It a radar return is not 100 percent perfect. It places the plane in the correct area. The inaccuracy is about 10 to 20 feet. 
Even the CIT witnesses identified the airplane near the bridge. 
Nobody noticed an airplane near the red X zero characters.. 
Pentagon officer and Robert saw a plane coming in along a path that would place it near the bridge to fly past it.
Do you not realize how vast the airplane would have to be to extend from the bridge to the cemetery. At that distance, six airplanes could fit in there.
I believe you know what I Am saying is true, but trying to keep alive this story.


this the Columbia pike road, the bridge you can still see.

a reply to: Hulseyreport

These photos you are posting are deceiving because they distort the distances. The best way to see what the eyewitnesses actually saw, is to plot them on a map of course.

Also, to consult the actual flightpath they witnessed, which they themselves drew on maps.
Then to accurately measure distances with Google Earth.

Then draw in the Official Flightpath on the same maps, and see how the two lines just cannot be reconciled.
The plane EITHER flew on the Official Flightpath,
OR it flew on the Northside Flightpath.
It CANNOT have done a little of both.

That is what Craig Ranke did, all those years ago, yet you ignore this valuable eyewitness testimony.

In the photo of Columbia Pike and the bridge above, the Official Flightpath is a straight line from the upper right corner, through those 3 lightpoles you can see on top of the bridge, towards the left, to hit the Pentagon almost at the far left hand side of the part that is visible. Most of the Pentagon visible in this photo is the southwest wall, because the BRIDGE is actually several hundred feet SOUTH of the Pentagon.

But the buildings on the left hand side have been constructed since 2001.
They were built on what used to be the parking lot for the cemetery.
So the NORTHSIDE FLIGHTPATH attested to by all those ANC workers, goes right across those roofs.
That is where they saw the left wing fly.

So if you draw in their flightpath on this photo, it comes from the upper left corner, down across the roofs, to about the same spot on the Pentagon.

Nowhere near the bridge!!

I think you need to carefully watch CIT's videos again.
THE PENTACON and NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT, especially.
The CIT witnesses put the plane NOWHERE NEAR the bridge.

CIT's detractors point out Keith Wheelhouse's flightpath which he drew for them, and claim that he saw the plane fly on the Southside.
But they deceitfully ignore the fact that Wheelhouse himself stated, correctly, that he had NO VIEW THROUGH THE TREES south of him along the edge of the cemetery, and that he was NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, so he DID NOT REALLY KNOW where the plane flew.

AGAIN, you miisunderstand the significance of the "red X' you draw on that map.

I never said that the plane flew there, and nor did anybody else!!
Why do you keep saying this?
As I pointed out, that "X" is STEVE RISKUS' LOCATION.
This is the place he was at on the highway, when he suddenly saw the plane fly across the road just south of him, from behind those trees along the top of the cemetery bank.

Please look again at the photos that Riskus himself drew on!
He plotted in HIS OWN LOCATION, and also drew in that RED LINE across the Columbia Pike exit road towards the heliport, which is the flightpath that he witnessed, which was NOWHERE NEAR THE BRIDGE.

Lloyde England was right in front of Steve Riskus, so they both had almost the identical view.
As Steve Riskus wrote to the Italian research website,

"That photo with the plane superimposed on it, is ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT I SAW that day. I see no need to draw any thing else."

Therefore, this is also "ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT LLOYDE ENGLAND SAW."

How much more obvious can anybody possibly make it!
The witnesses themselves PROVE THE PLANE NEVER FLEW ANYWHERE NEAR THE BRIDGE.

These witnesses mostly never knew each other.
They were located in many different positions.
Yet their testimony agrees.
The plane flew RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF THE NAVY ANNEX, then NORTH of the Citgo.

But the Official Flightpath claims the plane flew in a dead straight line, well SOUTH OF THE NAVY ANNEX, then in a line that EXACTLY FITTED BETWEEN THOSE 2 LIGHTPOLES on the west side of the bridge.

There is no leeway here whatsoever, if you believe the plane's wings hit both those lightpoles.

Please find for me, all those fabled quotes from eyewitnesses, which state that the plane flew across the bridge and hit all those poles!!