Originally posted by orangetom1999
Great topic line here and it needs to be discussed.
The problem here is not the women ...though this is a clearly identifiable problem. The main problem , Alcor, is the absolute dumb assed ignorance of
the male of the species. These women mostly take advantage of the ignorance and dumbassedness of the average male to walk him through the necessary
steps to seperate him from his production.
THe topic you speak of should be standard education for males. They need a survival manual..like Elle, Cosmo, Redbook to help them along ..complete
with quizzes. However some males are so dumb there is not much hope for them even with a manual.
I disagree on some points. If the man is a selfish b*st*rd, just as ruthless and conniving as the women. Then frankly they'd deserve eachother, and
he would bring it on himself. Reap what you sow i guess. Although just because the man can't always see it, doesn't make him stupid NOR does it mean
he always deserves it. Where's the common compassion and sympathy/empathy gone? Seems to be missing these days? Some people are just GOOD at
deceiving.
For instance if a serial killer is very apt at befriending a range of people, getting to know them, gaining their trust and being involved in varying
aspects of their lives. Does that mean the victims deserve it? I think not. How about women who stay with a partner who may be abusive, violent or
involved in dodgy dealings. Does it make them stupid? Some people like to try and change others. Or perhaps they see a good in them that they try and
nurture more.
Let's remember 'it takes two to tango'. A cliché but true - These women/men (in some cases) have just as much a part to play. What makes them into
such people? If this is truly a function of human beings then why isn't it more widespread? I think it comes down to how these particular women have
been treated, what they've experienced and perhaps been conditioned in life.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
I know a guy who married two gold diggers back to back...he never learned from the first one. Amazing. All the tell tale signs were there...I reckon
he was blinded by the sex and phat yams ie..his fantasy woman. By the way this phenomonon is not limited to a age bracked though it does show up
noticably in women for whom the biological clock is getting close to midnight after several failed survival attempts.
If he had already experienced it once then he should've taken the lessons onboard. I dunno maybe he's very trusting and only sees the good side of
people, at the detriment of his wellbeing. I think it true with the saying that 'love is blind'.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
Much of this is based on the ability of the male to be a performer..without actually thinking about the real intrinsic value of his being able to
perform. What his performing is actually worth in the marketplace.
These men often think they must constantly perform to keep in the view of a woman....they think they must try out for approval. This is their
job..their automatic role in life to perform..automatically ..to rescue...to be a knight .. the hero.
This reminds me of what i'd like to call the 'Aphrodisiac Phenomenon' [careful i might Copyright that
]. Where you'll have a male
'celebrity' and because of their fame it seems to make women crazy about them. Now if these guys were just the average Garry working in some office,
they wouldn't get this attention. Yet when some guy becomes famous it seems to intoxicate women. Now these guys can be the ugliest in the world, with
a complete bland personality. Yet they can still get women clambering for them lol.
Just ON THE WHOLE seems different for men and women. Where generally (correct me if i'm wrong) men don't tend to be that fussy. If they're
attracted to a woman (looks, personality or both) then they wouldn't hesitate in making a move for them. Regardless of their status, wealth etc.
However with women they tend to be more fussy, where things such as status and maybe wealth are taken into consideration. I don't know whether this
has more to do with how we're biologically wired, perhaps men and women instinctually look for different things in partners, who knows?
Originally posted by orangetom1999
What a stupid bunch of males there is out there. Really dumb...you are quite correct in your position on this.
What my friend needs to understand is that women can spot this "availability " and "potential " in a male like radar navigating in the dark.
There is some truth to that country music line that goes something like " she's single again ..hold on to your man." Lol lol ...hunter
gatherers.
Well i'd equate this to a situation that may affect women, such as rape. Say for instance a woman is out partying with her friends, she's wearing a
short skirt and a loose top, could be considered 'enticing'. Perhaps after this night out she's walking home alone and gets raped by a man. Now
people often say such things as "well it's her fault for wearing something 'tarty'". Although it was the MAN who committed the sickening act,
sometimes it's the woman who gets the blame. Only because she didn't 'cover up'. Does it mean because she was wearing revealing clothes that she
deserves to be raped? No of course not, NO ONE deserves such treatment.
Now if we're talking about men who fail to spot such women, does it mean they deserve to be treated like that? I disagree.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
Once gain...Alcor...this is a man fault for being intrinsically stupid by nature and being plagued by the natural dumbness of needing to rescue...for
a living. Women who practice what you describe use a technique which I often refer to as " male disposability and expendability. However to be fair
about this ..the male does at least half of the work in his stupidity ..this is why it works so well and for so long a period of time without it being
identified for what it is. Most males do not want thier dumbness paraded in public.
We're not intrinsically stupid by nature, as i've said some are just good at deceiving. While others yes may not see it
. It doesn't come down to
if you're a man, but rather the individual person. Both men and women are involved in situations where people tell them, "you should've seen it
coming". Sometimes we ignore our instincts in order to pursue our more desireble qualities/expectations.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
Also to be fair to the bulk of women who do not practice this...this type of woman gives decent women a bad name. This to is not fair or honest but it
happens.
I agree, most women are decent and not as shallow as the ones we've mentioned. Although they do exist sadly.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
This type of woman you describe needs to be identified but mostly the men need to pull their heads out of thier backsides and breath some fresh air.
Not likely when they have sports and cheerleaders blocking their thinking apparatus.
Perhaps...but we should'nt be accepting this kind of behaviour only because it's happening to people who 'don't see it'. As i've said before,
different things may motivate men and women when looking for prospective partners. Men think of sex quite frequently. So if a man who isn't very
successful with women happens to get an interest. He's going to jump at that chance, regardless if alarm bells are ringing or he's been warned by
friends and others. If a man gets a alot of success with women, then he can afford to dump the 'undesirables'. Women have it easier in attractiing
men, because many men (not all) are shallow and only consider the physical attributes, or just want sex. Many men don't find it so easy to attract
many women nor that frequently. Therefore sometimes they'll go for what comes.
Originally posted by Dissension
I agree with orangetom. Too many men that lack the balls to be a man. Too many pussy-boys that can't handle their woman. They deserve everything
they lose.
Pray it doesn't happen to you, otherwise we'll see who follows their 'convictions' ;-)
Anyway that's my bit!
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