could the pyramids of egypt be a door to the center of the earth?

ooh well heres an idea
what if the egyptologists are lying to us about the pyramids
what if they weren't built as quickly as they claim
what if they are only claiming they were built that quickly to make them seem more mysterious and therefore more of a draw for tourism

nah you're right
must have been aliens
makes far more sense

The Pyramids (not only the 3 famous pyramids on the Giza plateau, but all of the Egyptian pyramids) were built for one thing & one thing only: To ensure that the Pharoah (or other wealthy Egyptians who could afford them) would be given eternal existence in the afterlife. The funerary cults maintained the religious rituals & continuing offerings to the dead to sustain the afterlife. The north-side entrance tunnels were aligned with the circumpolar star (Egyptians called it Sopdet, we call it Sirius) because it's a star that "never dies" & associates with an "eternal afterlife". The east/west sides face the rising & setting sun to associate with constant renewal as well as the cycle of life-death-rebirth. The inclusion of the "pyramid texts" & "coffin texts" (starting with Unas of the Fifth Dynasty) was because he noticed that changes in Dynasty or other political turmoil could cause the funerary cults to disband & the offerings stop...So the texts covered the "rituals of renewal", the knowledge of the underworld that the spirit needed & listed the offerings & were left in the pyramids to ensure that they will always be available to the deceased.

I posted here (A 3-part post because it's long & it starts about halfway down the page) about the history of the Egyptians that led up to the construction of the Giza Pyramids. Also included there are the development of the architectual skills, the religious motivations & the first indications of how the kings could develop such high levels of command over his resources & manpower to build on such a scale.

In short, Egyptian pyramids were built to be "Ressurection Machines" to provide an everlasting afterlife for those entombed within.

Originally posted by Marduk
ooh well heres an idea
what if the egyptologists are lying to us about the pyramids
what if they weren't built as quickly as they claim
what if they are only claiming they were built that quickly to make them seem more mysterious and therefore more of a draw for tourism

nah you're right
must have been aliens
makes far more sense

Well im sure many different egytologists have checked the ages, as they have to inside the pyramid with new items and treasures they find what should deterimine the approx age it was built.

Check out this site and see if you don’t realize that the pyramids where a tomb or some sort of map


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could the pyramids of egypt be a door to the center of the earth?

they could be far more greater than just a door to the center of the earth.

they could very well be a door to the center of all creation, and also a door to the center of the soul.

just a thought.

Wow. I think my head is going to explode.

I believe there is a hollow earth but not in the case of it being empty inside like a football. I believe if there were civilisations down there then they could quite easily be living in huge caverns or cave like bases. I mean surely a underground cavern the size of Great Britain would be acceptable beleivings inside our earth. Surely it wouldnt effect the earth so much but could quite easily sustain a civilisation of a few dozen million. So i say in a totally "Hollow" earth then the answer would be not physically possible however the chances of having a cavern the size of GB would be quite possible and go un noticed.

What also pops into my head on this subject was a book i read a few years back in which it stated that Hitler believed the earth was concave as opposed to convex and that we were actually living on the inside. I read he believed this theory so much that he had obsevetories watching the skies for enemy battleships. Also it must be noted that in the conspiracy surrounding the north pole access points witnesses to strange craft have witnessed the crafts being marked with the swasika insignia.

Its a long time since i read this info so i must go and look it up

My personal beliefs of the Giza group are that they never were intended to be actual tombs. Firstly there are no images or heirogliths adorning them as every other actual burial place has. Every burial place in Egypt has stories extolling the virtues of the entombed person prolifically covering the interior chambers. The Giza trio do not.

Caliph al-Ma’mun gained entry to the Great Pyramid after many, many days of work and he had a small army of laborers and engineers and black powder! Could anyone have done it thousands of years earlier while the population ignored them? Why did the Caliph find no evidence of an earlier entry? If earlier looters could have gotten in how long would it have taken to remove what should have been enormous amounts of treasure relative to the standing of a pharaoh like Khufu? There was no debris found of broken furniture or anything not of value that certainly would have been left inside. This could never have been an overnight raid. Nothing alluding to Khufu’s tomb has ever surfaced anywhere else so where did all those objects go if they ever existed at all?

Since the mummified remains of the principles who allegedly commissioned each pyramid were not found entombed therein it stands to reason that the constructions were not principally for entombment.

Giza

he significance of the image may have been hinted at by psychic Elizabeth Bacon of New York. In a trance reading on the mysterious sphere, she received the message that the object had once belonged to Thoth, the Egyptian god who allegedly buried a secret vault of knowledge near the three great Pyramids of Giza at the beginning of time there is also a correlation with the story of Enoch.

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giza

The story also includes versions with Thothas the center character there is also the story of a flood that describes how history has many things similar.
The odes of similar stories in the similar area and considering the age of the pyramids the conclusion that something buried there. And considering that math is the fundamental part of life I also find many mathematical anomaly’s in Giza.

Originally posted by thesaint
What also pops into my head on this subject was a book i read a few years back in which it stated that Hitler believed the earth was concave as opposed to convex and that we were actually living on the inside. I read he believed this theory so much that he had obsevetories watching the skies for enemy battleships. Also it must be noted that in the conspiracy surrounding the north pole access points witnesses to strange craft have witnessed the crafts being marked with the swasika insignia.

Its a long time since i read this info so i must go and look it up

Please do, because I've never heard of this belief. Of course the man was a dribbling loon who buried his country up to its eyeballs in burnt corpses and shattered houses thanks to his deluded belief in his military skills.
That said, the battleship spotting bit might explain a few things about why he lost so badly.

Originally posted by Cruizer
Every burial place in Egypt has stories extolling the virtues of the entombed person prolifically covering the interior chambers. The Giza trio do not.

Actually, none of the tombs (pyramids or not) had funerary-ritual related writings inside...Until Unas of the Fifth Dynasty. The Giza Pyramids were built in the Fourth Dynasty & were the the chief product of the trial-n-error pyramids of Snefru; It was his son, Khufu, that built the first pyramid at Giza, but it was Snefru who started the building of True Pyramids. Snefru had built at least 3 pyramids, 2 of which failed (He may have built others, but the evidence isn't conclusive). So be careful when you use the word, "every" in this context...Without also considering the time-frames before & after the Giza Pyramids.

Even so, pyramids (true or step pyramids) built earlier than that of Unas didn't have any funerary writings inside. Those tombs relied upon the "funerary cults", organized & established by the Pharoah, to perpetuate the rituals & offerings to sustain the deceased in the afterlife. Unas had noticed that those funerary cults could be disbanded by later kings, so he decided to list the offerings & enscribed the funerary rituals inside his tomb to sustain him, even if his funerary cult failed for any reason whatsoever.

Originally posted by Cruizer
Caliph al-Ma’mun gained entry to the Great Pyramid after many, many days of work and he had a small army of laborers and engineers and black powder! Could anyone have done it thousands of years earlier while the population ignored them? Why did the Caliph find no evidence of an earlier entry?

The first tomb robbers who could have accessed the tomb would have been the very people who labored on it. Egypt does have records of entire families of tomb robbers, working through generation after generation. Also, modern day archeologists have detected fresh air circulating through areas of the pyramids...But haven't yet found any ventilating shafts! The very people who labored on the pyramids would be the ones most likely to know about such "secret passages" that even us moderns haven't found yet!

Just do a search there is loads of stuff about this (so i just discovered)

Also read this link it mentions the Hitler beliefs too

www.iht.com...

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Originally posted by Marduk
ooh well heres an idea
what if the egyptologists are lying to us about the pyramids
what if they weren't built as quickly as they claim
what if they are only claiming they were built that quickly to make them seem more mysterious and therefore more of a draw for tourism

nah you're right
must have been aliens
makes far more sense

Marduk... It appears that you are referring to me with this post. Just to clarify, I have never written that I support the aliens built the pyramic theory. If you find the alien theory unlikely, then we are in agreement on that one. I don't feel the egyptologists are so much lying in most instances, but that they are just repeating what they were convinced is the most likely story. After studying the subject, I concluded that the accepted scenario is not plausible, for many reasons.
What if....? I have pondered what if myself, often. I still do, but I have now discounted many of my earlier what ifs. Admittedly, none of your above what ifs were among the many I considered.

Originally posted by MidnightDStroyer

The first tomb robbers who could have accessed the tomb would have been the very people who labored on it. Egypt does have records of entire families of tomb robbers, working through generation after generation. Also, modern day archeologists have detected fresh air circulating through areas of the pyramids...But haven't yet found any ventilating shafts! The very people who labored on the pyramids would be the ones most likely to know about such "secret passages" that even us moderns haven't found yet!

True, but that does not seem to be the explanation regarding the great pyramid. It is unlikely that tomb robbers would sweep up after themselves, and would not leave anything behind. There are indeed hidden passages, but that does not explain why the 'robbers' would have been so tidy. Also, since the 'escape shaft' found is very narrow, it could not have been a way to remove anything of any large size, such as a coffin, furnishings, etc. The original explorers of the great pyramid found nothing within.... it was unexpectedly and thoroughly empty. I don't believe robbers would have been so meticulous as to have removed every scrap they found, and left the place spotless... It does not fit their general M.O.

Wait a second here, I’m having some serious déjà vu. Wasn’t all of this stuff about tomb robbers already covered earlier in this thread? Maybe I’m just crazy, but weren’t pages 2 and 3 all about tomb robbers? Anyways the thing stated earlier by Darkmind about Hitler. If your going to throw Hitler out there, you should also throw Symmes and Haley. Not everyone who believes in this theory is a psycho dictator.

Originally posted by spaceman16
theres a theory that the earth was hollow, and that there are doorways into the earth, one of them being in the great pyramids of Egypt. For thousands of years the great pyramids have thought to be of another world and created by other beings. What if they created the pyramids to be a doorway into the center of the earth. There are other entrences at both the north and the south pole. So what do you guys think about this could it be possible that the earth is hollow and that there are door ways into it under or in the great pyramids of Egypt?

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VERY good thinking! Excellent!

Absolutely perfect for ATS' section on Ancient and Lost Civilizations - and obviously, up to ATS' rigorous standards for acedemia and scholarship.

IMO - your argument, contained in its entirety above, that there are doorways into the earth, one of them being in the great pyramids of Egypt, constitutes far, FAR more substantial evidence of an ancient and lost civilization than for example, the fact that the I Ching is based on a binary numerical system, and contains a calendar similar to the Mayan calendar.


Keep up the good work.

You aren’t making any sense to me. Are you being sarcastic with the whole, I Ching binary system thing?

After a long absence I am back with evidence to fuel this controversy. According to this site

www.lhup.edu...

“Halley postulated that the earth we walk on is a hollow shell about 500 miles thick, with two inner concentric shells and an innermost core, about the diameters of the planets Venus, Mars, and Mercury. These shells are separated by atmospheres, and each has its own magnetic poles. The spheres rotate at different speeds, thus accounting for long-term magnetic field variations. Halley did wonder whether clay and chalk beds of the outer crust are sufficient to prevent the oceans from leaking inside, but he was sure that "the Wisdom of the Creator has provided" some way to prevent this.”

So this would account for all the magnetic pole questions and all the “what about volcanoes and p and s wave” questions. And it would help to answer the “well hows gravity work then” questions. The site also says

“Halley even suggested that each sphere "might support life," because the spheres were bathed in perpetual light from a luminous gaseous atmosphere that filled all of the inner spaces. He even entertained the possibility of "more ample creation" within the earth, which might include suns.”

Thus answering the “wheres the inner light” coming form question and “how can it support life” question. Even Newton couldn’t help to agree with explanation of the auroral display of 1692. As quoted

“When the Royal Society asked Halley to explain the exceptional auroral display of 1692, Halley wrote that it was caused by light from inside the earth. Newon's demonstration of the oblateness of the earth led Halley to suppose the earth's outer shell was thinner at the poles, allowing inner light to diffuse out, then scatter from the atmosphere, causing auroral displays”

So…. I guess after saying all that.. I don’t have anything else to say.

you missed off the authors summary of these ideas and the people who came up with them and for some reason only posted the section where he was putting the idea from Halleys point of view
the author (Donald E. Simanek) wrote it like that to allow the reader a glimpse into the mind of someone who in some areas was quite brilliant but in others was a hopeless case
Dr Simaneks entire website devoted to bashing pseudoscience is available here
www.lhup.edu...
here is his summary

Like pseudoscientists of all varieties, they carefully select those aspects of experience they wish to incorporate into their model, ignoring the vast amount of other scientific phenomena that conventional science has already successfully dealt with. They cite old, discredited, or poorly documented, observations, experiments and theories as supportive of their views. Often they wage a guerrila war against "conventional science", and characterize scientists as imperceptive or even stupid for not acknowledging their cleverness and the truth of their alternative models. They take pride in being a member of a select few, the elite, who can see things clearly.

nuff said