uk national lottery emblem has 666 in design

notice the eyes - ie two 6`s

notice the tail at the back? looks like a 6 lying on its side - ignore the two crossed fingers looks strange eh?

hehehe what do you think???

[edit on 10-1-2006 by Im a true sceptic]

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[edit on 10-1-2006 by Nygdan]

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[edit on 10-1-2006 by Masta609]

its says the server is busy on every link can u post a picture of it ... thanks

Interesting. I agree that it can be see as at least two sixes with the eyes and sorta a third one. The crossed fingers (a gesture indicating 'i hope this works' or 'doing this for good luck') kinda look like horns and the 'thumb' could be a tail, so he's kinda a devil too.


But, what of it?

firstly - apologies for my lameness with image posting.

Well isnt gambling suppose to be the devils work? sorry but im just diggin at the moment...


cheers

I can't see the "tail" six. Is it vague?

In any case that is a weird little icon. The eyes and smile are unsettling. It looks hypnotized.

It's like a cloud. It's entirely ambiguous. I doubt there's any real symbolism here aside from the ones that are intended on the ticket.

Remember not to assume that all Texas Longhorns fans are devil worshippers because of their team's hand sign.

Does anyone here collect strange corporate logos, etc? I'm sort of interested in that and would be interested in getting some from others. Something to do I guess.

Originally posted by 2nd Hand Thoughts
Does anyone here collect strange corporate logos, etc?

You probably have already seen these?

They have the largest list i`ve seen 20 odd large pages of them

www.samliquidation.com...

Edit to add another

thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr...




[edit on 21-1-2006 by gps777]

gps777 - Thanks for sharing the links. I had not seen these pages before. I have a small amount of some of the stuff on them but not the majority. This is great stuff. A lot of it scary.

[edit on 21-1-2006 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]

Glad to 2HT,i admit some logo`s are a far stretch to be what they claim,but too many are too blatant and follow a common theme,which is quite unsettling to think large Gov or companies are driven or controlled under a global flag or more to the point symbol.

Like the NWO or end time predictions i see it as the pyrimid with all the seeing eye,the base of the pyrimid was founded thousands of years ago and as time goes on it moves more rapidly towards the apex,which is why i believe we are seeing these things more and more.

I also find it unsettling that in the NIV Bible points to this, the quote in the KJV Bible says "the stone the builders rejected became the corner stone"
Where the NIV replaces it with capstone

I saw a cool show on the N Geographic channel on USOs; Unidentified Submerged Objects. Even Stanton Friedman was on there. Lots of officialy documented cases. ANyway, there was a logo on there of I think the Mexican version of the US's National Guard or similar. It was a triangle in a circle. These things are everywhere!

Actually it's 616, just look where the finger is, it's crossed over but if you did not do that, you get 616. 616 was the orignal number of the beast discribed in the book of revolations in rome which stood for "NERO" the romen emporer at the time, but over time it got messed with and today we have 666, but since this day and age is turning into what rome was doing at the time (hence the mark being every romen citizen having to be indentifyed and would not be able to buy, and would be taken away to some dungeon somewhere to rot.ect

Britian is going to do that national id thing I think so it might be a sign, heck do any of us know.

[edit on 23-1-2006 by trIckz_R_fO_kIdz]

Originally posted by trIckz_R_fO_kIdz
Actually it's 616, just look where the finger is, it's crossed over but if you did not do that, you get 616. 616 was the orignal number of the beast discribed in the book of revolations in rome which stood for "NERO" the romen emporer at the time, but over time it got messed with and today we have 666, but since this day and age is turning into what rome was doing at the time (hence the mark being every romen citizen having to be indentifyed and would not be able to buy, and would be taken away to some dungeon somewhere to rot.ect

Britian is going to do that national id thing I think so it might be a sign, heck do any of us know.

[edit on 23-1-2006 by trIckz_R_fO_kIdz]

Do you have a source that you could quote from in relation to 616 being the original number? Cause if not, I can provide one that says it's 666, and has been for at the very least 2000 years. As a matter of fact, here's that Revelations verse that you mentioned:

Revelations, Chapter 13:

"17: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18: Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Just for reference, a score is 20, so the number is 666. It can't be any other way, unless someone has insights that the rest of the world are not privy to.

Originally posted by TheBorg
Do you have a source that you could quote from in relation to 616 being the original number?

Here are a few...

www.csad.ox.ac.uk...

www.escapeallthesethings.com...

www.worldnetdaily.com...

en.wikipedia.org...(number)

en.wikipedia.org...

www.religionnewsblog.com...

www.beliefnet.com...

Get with the past...

this is fact now to, you can not deny it, and your bible is not 100% orignal. Its more like 20%, I recommend you read the the christian bible through ancient middle eastern languages. Yes it was not written in Greek first it was ARAMIAC the language Jesus spoke.

www.amazon.com...


[edit on 24-1-2006 by trIckz_R_fO_kIdz]

I read this 616 was debunked even way back in the second century,which can be found on quite a lot of sites.

616 vs. 666: Which Is the Real Number of the Beast?
4. Irenaeus in the second century, a century before the manuscript Parker relies on, already knew of the 616 variation and discounted it as an error:

Such, then, being the state of the case, and this number being found in all the most approved and ancient copies [of the Apocalypse], and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony [to it]; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the beast, [if reckoned] according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to six hundred and sixty and six; that is, the number of tens shall be equal to that of the hundreds, and the number of hundreds equal to that of the units (for that number which [expresses] the digit six being adhered to throughout, indicates the recapitulations of that apostasy, taken in its full extent, which occurred at the beginning, during the intermediate periods, and which shall take place at the end), — I do not know how it is that some have erred following the ordinary mode of speech, and have vitiated the middle number in the name, deducting the amount of fifty from it, so that instead of six decads they will have it that there is but one. [I am inclined to think that this occurred through the fault of the copyists, as is wont to happen, since numbers also are expressed by letters; so that the Greek letter which expresses the number sixty was easily expanded into the letter Iota of the Greeks.] — Adv. haer. 5.30
In this rather obscurely expressed passage, Irenaeus was proposing (even in the second century - a century BEFORE this oldest surviving copy!) that old, Greek copies of Revelation contained an error of copying in which the Greek letter xi with gematraic value 60 was wrongly copied into the Greek letter iota with number value 10.
www.escapeallthesethings.com...

Apparently 666 appears 4 times in the Bible,616 is discounted as a error.

How convenient that some people jump all over this,even when they dont believe in God anyways,and when Verichip and digital Angel are producing there biochips.


[edit on 24-1-2006 by gps777]

Well I do admit I listed that site on purpose since you know need to get all views shown around here, I am not right or left on anything or middle, I seek only the truth in things, but I would recommend you look into the facts about it first before saying you're going to debunk something and end up not debunking it. In fact you couldnt be wrong or right, 666 and 616 still make NERO no matter what. This is as hard as explaning Jesus exsisted. Come on they debunk he was not real and lets see you use that same way you debunked the 616 example and prove Jesus was real with a biased report on the net.

Explanation for there being two versions of the number is that it represents both Greek and Latin versions of the name of Emperor Nero, a well known persecutor of the early Christians (Burnt a entire city down to frame the Christians). The logic behind this is that Nero's Greek name is Neron Kesar which when rendered into Hebrew (where the vowels are dropped and read from right to left) it becomes rsq nwrn this adds up to 666. On the other hand his more familiar Latin name Nero Caesar is rendered as rsq wrn which adds up to 616.

Nero does not match the prophecies in revelation,there`s a lot more to it than someones name matching 666 or framing Christian.

There`s a thread already on this very subject and Defcon5 sums it up nicely concerning Nero on page 4.

www.belowtopsecret.com...

There are a lot of speculation from all different points of view or beliefs, people will ultimately rest with what they are comfortable with,especially with this very topic,because the things out there today are proving the Bible true,that makes people more adamant to explain it away and its at a time the Bible is being attacked more viciously.

By the way i personally have proof that Christ exists tho that is only personal and not something i can prove to you.

It was you who stated that you can not deny it,well i did and do that it is 616.

In the end i`m not taking this mark which i believe revelations is talking about.
www.verichipcorp.com...
or anything like it
www.digitalangelcorp.com...
oh lookie its even got a fallen star (angel)in its logo