Saddam did NOT GAS HIS OWN PEOPLE

I'm tired of everyone across the United States using the excuse of Saddam "gassing his own people" as a justification for killing more Middle Eastern innocents, especially since it isn't true.

"Supposedly Hussein gassed Iraqi Kurds at Halabja in March 1988 during the closing days of the Iran-Iraq war. But it isn't true. In 1990, the U.S. government found that the Kurds died by cyanide gas. It was the Iranians who used cyanide, while the Iraqis used mustard gas. This means it was the Iranians who accidentally killed the Kurds during battle. Hussein had nothing to do with it. (Source: Army War College, Stephen Pelletier & colleague)"

www.truthaboutwar.org...


"And the story gets murkier: immediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas.

The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent � that is, a cyanide-based gas � which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time. "

www.nytimes.com...

I'm not saying Saddam wasn't a brutal dictator, but these are blatant lies, exaggerations, and perversions of the truth and shouldn't be allowed to stand.

Excelent find!!!

BURRY the BS US claims.. the truht is out here!!!

Seriously.. it really doesnt matter if Saddam did gas the kurds.. kurds that had commited treason..

And attacked Iraqi gov. troops.

No matter who killed them.. it was the right thing to do..

As for Treason there is death punishment.

In US one might get killed for passing some documents to 'enemy'..

And these kurds killed Iraqi troops.



They had it comming.

But didn't the UN also confirm the Saddam gassing story?

Besides how many people in the middle east are innocent?

Innocent of what?

What about the innocents dying of aids in Africa now?

Why don't people post about that stuff around here?

Guess it doesn't matter to the left wingers.

Originally posted by THENEO
But didn't the UN also confirm the Saddam gassing story?

Besides how many people in the middle east are innocent?

Innocent of what?

What about the innocents dying of aids in Africa now?

Why don't people post about that stuff around here?

Guess it doesn't matter to the left wingers.

THENEO,

AIDS is not 'illness' it is a weapon. Mostly Black people and homosexuals have it.

Think about it.

Can someone do a check to see if neo ever posted about AIDS in Africa?

I doubt it. His only comment has been that AIDS is something played up by the media.

He is just an apologist for George W Bush and the entire corrupt admin, who can't stick to a topic on any Forum.

I don't pretend to know the truth about the gassing of Kurdish people, or about mass graves, but I have an inkling that not all arguments of convenience about Hussein's cruelty stand up in the cold light of day.

The more you peel back the layers of the onion skin of the campaign of lies and deception by Bush/PNAC, the more disgusted you become about being American. Unless you are a hypocrite.

Originally posted by THENEO
But didn't the UN also confirm the Saddam gassing story?

Besides how many people in the middle east are innocent?

Innocent of what?

What about the innocents dying of aids in Africa now?

Why don't people post about that stuff around here?

Guess it doesn't matter to the left wingers.

To answer your questions in order:

1. No. And if you can prove me wrong feel free to do so. The Untied Nations to my knowledge has said nothing on this issue.

Oh... and the rest of your post seems to be total nonsense.

For anyone interested in further reading, also check out
www.polyconomics.com...

and

www.whatreallyhappened.com...

And Bandit, I wasn't very well educated on the politics behind the war, but it seems you are correct, thank you for bringing that to my attention The Iraqis could say the same thing about the United States and the Waco incident.

I wouldnt say the Kurds had it comming. they were under a society and regime they did not want to be under, they were a different ethnic group wanting thier own nation, and thus, you might sondier them freedom fighters.

Regardless, this is an interesting find, Saddam did not gas the Kurds, iran did by accident. perhaps they allowed this lie to fllourish to get the blame off themselves.

As to the UN documenting it........show a legit article about that so we can see the Un spin.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
I wouldnt say the Kurds had it comming. they were under a society and regime they did not want to be under, they were a different ethnic group wanting thier own nation, and thus, you might sondier them freedom fighters.

Regardless, this is an interesting find, Saddam did not gas the Kurds, iran did by accident. perhaps they allowed this lie to fllourish to get the blame off themselves.

As to the UN documenting it........show a legit article about that so we can see the Un spin.

Skandi,

I hear that there is in US some extremist white people that want their own 'nations'.. like in 'Waco'..

Should the US gov. give up and give them what they want?

Hell no!

Or should Spain and France give Basks a 'nation'?

No!!!

How about Serbia.. should they give the Kosovo to Albanians?

No!!! And again no!!!

Or should Quebec be a 'nation'?



See where i am comming from Skandi?

You can give up and give these 'nations' to all..

Hell if during 1960/70s US had have even more weaker gov.s we would have 155 independent 'Rainbow nations' in US..

(Hippie nations.. communes..)



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Just fixed for typos..

[Edited on 29-9-2003 by Bandit]

Whoa, we got a new bandit in town!!!

I did have a british report which did say that Saddam did gas his own people. Will take a little while to dig back up though...

Btw, the title of the topic: "Saddam did NOT GAS HIS OWN PEOPLE"

Is quite missleading.

As Kurds are not citizens of any nation.. they are criminals, terrorists and trouble makers.

(Well some of them.. like the PPK members.. and others alike..)

Um, Bandit......

the kurds are a distinct ethnic group who want a nation of thier own, period. they did not have anychoice when iraq was formed, they were thrown under one non descript banner.

And yes, Waco was very bad. Just like the JKurds getting gassed.

The question of this topic isnt who was bad or good, its a question, did Saddam gas his own people? Probably not.

Kurds did not get any choice in the formation of Iraq. White supremecists however, live within their own little world as is. If they wanted thier own nation, id let em have Montana anyway, so they can all flock there and get out of everyones hair, and inbreed themselves into extinction.

Just like WACO was bad, so was the gassing of the Kurds.

The question is, who gassed the Kurds?

Kurds dont NEED a nation.

And i hope they never will get one.

But the truht is that they will eventually get it, a nation.

When they 'have deserved' it.

At this moment they dont.

As they are ignorant savages.

I know my kurds.. do you really know yours?

Regards
Bandit

aka
Uninen
FULCRUM



[Edited on 29-9-2003 by Bandit]

Why the assanine nature? Have you seen the pictures of the dead kurdish children?!?!?! YOU MAKE ME #ING SICK. STAY GONE.

MA,

where are your posts about it?

while I haven't mentioned aids here nor Africa I had the same run in with people of other boards I went to.

they were left wing and ranted and raved all the time about the injustises to the Iraqi people. When I started to talk about what was going on in Africa all of a sudden they got quiet. If you want to be a bleeding heart then cry for everyone!

Originally posted by goregrinder
Why the assanine nature? Have you seen the pictures of the dead kurdish children?!?!?! YOU MAKE ME #ING SICK. STAY GONE.

What is your problem little man?

Why should i stay gone?



Nobody has been kicking me out this time.

I just almost chose to leave by myself, but then i thought of you.. you would be so lonely with out me..

So i decided to stay.. and also.. i was asked to stay.



Regards
Bandit

aka
Uninen
FULCRUM



PS. How about dead Iraqi children killed by US troops.. do i have to find you some pics.. or?



[Edited on 29-9-2003 by Bandit]

It's intriguing that you come to the aid so quickly of evil men. Why are you fascinated with Saddam? Why are you fascinated with other extremists, as you have admitted to in the past? Something tells me you would have no issue with joinging the Islamic Jihad.

How many kids are starving to death right now in Zimbabwe or NK right now because they have authoritarian regimes in place?

How many people are talking about that?

For example, North Korea has options, it would be absorbed by South Korea in a moments notice. Just ask East Germans if they are so much worse off since being annexed to West Germany.

Socialists are fighting their last gasps as they realize their dream of taking over the world is not going to happen.

That is what this is really about and that is why the facts of who did what when or why don't matter. You people know this but you cannot admit it.

Quote: "Kurds dont NEED a nation.
And i hope they never will get one.

I reckon' that sums it for the Kurds.....as well as the Palestinian peoples too?


regards
seekerof

this has to take the cake! You guys are having a flame war online in the name of people who suffocated in chemical soup. Guess what you were not there. You did not watch your child choke to death. I do not not really care who is right here. It just is not right to get your bravado up in their name

Originally posted by Seekerof
Quote: "Kurds dont NEED a nation.
And i hope they never will get one.

I reckon' that sums it for the Kurds.....as well as the Palestinian peoples too?


regards
seekerof

Seekerof,

Palestinians have much better claim on a nation.

They even have UN resolution(s).

And the kurds arent nice people.. Palestinians are much more so.

And i did say that they (Kurds) will get one when the time is ready for it.

And so will the Palestinians.. Palestinians however have allready missed the change many times.. i hope that the time isnt running out for them.



GG,

Youll never know.. maybe i will join Islamic Jihad.. or then not..

Maybe not as i dont know any 'islamic languages', and if i go to join them talking English they will think that im from US and shoot me..

And also i am Christian, and i am not going to change 'gods'.