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Originally posted by sigung86
If I am observant enough to keep you from coming in my house and lying on the couch and watching my television whenever you simply want to, then I don't have to worry about you coming in when I happen to be at work and taking all my furniture. And if one of my neighbors should let it leak to me that you are, in fact, sneaking in when I'm away, then I am not at all sure that person should be drawn and quartered for helping me protect my furniture.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Anyway, Bush has said that he doesn't read newspapers, so I doubt very much if he watches TV either.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Ask thyself the same question
You really don't believe everything that is said about or against Bush, do you, Marg?
seekerof
Originally posted by jsobecky
Originally posted by sigung86
If I am observant enough to keep you from coming in my house and lying on the couch and watching my television whenever you simply want to, then I don't have to worry about you coming in when I happen to be at work and taking all my furniture. And if one of my neighbors should let it leak to me that you are, in fact, sneaking in when I'm away, then I am not at all sure that person should be drawn and quartered for helping me protect my furniture.
How did you find out that Bush watched your TV? Was the channel set to Fox News when you got home?
Anyway, Bush has said that he doesn't read newspapers, so I doubt very much if he watches TV either.
Originally posted by DjOsiris
Where does the "just a f!@#$%g piece of paper" Constitution or Bill of Rights or even the Patriot Act say the president has the power to spy on ANYONE without a court order? Bush tried to use the 9/11 excuse back in 2001 to justify the ability to do this and it was shot down by congress. The POTUS does not have the RIGHT to do MANY of the things he is doing. Yet anytime the Administration is questioned or has the finger pointed at them it just gets spun into something totally different founded on LIES.
In September 1993, President Clinton asked the CIA to spy on Japanese auto manufacturers that were designing zero-emission cars and to forward that information to the Big Three US car manufacturers: Ford, General Motors and Chrysler. In 1995, the New York Times reported that the NSA and the CIA’s Tokyo station were involved in providing detailed information to US Trade Representative Mickey Kantor’s team of negotiators in Geneva facing Japanese car companies in a trade dispute. Recently, a Japanese newspaper, Mainichi, accused the NSA of continuing to monitor the communications of Japanese companies on behalf of American companies
Insight Magazine reported in a series of articles in 1997 that President Clinton ordered the NSA and FBI to mount a massive surveillance operation at the 1993 Asian/Pacific Economic Conference (APEC) hosted in Seattle. One intelligence source for the story related that over 300 hotel rooms had been bugged for the event, which was designed to obtain information regarding oil and hydro-electric deals pending in Vietnam that were passed on to high level Democratic Party contributors competing for the contracts. But foreign companies were not the only losers: when Vietnam expressed interest in purchasing two used 737 freighter aircraft from an American businessman, the deal was scuttled after Commerce Secretary Ron Brown arranged favorable financing for two new 737s from Boeing
Claims by a top Senate Democrat that the Clinton administration's warrantless surveillance of suspected spies and terrorists was different from what the Bush administration has employed are being contradicted by a former Justice Department official who served under President Bill Clinton.
from DjOsiris
we hunt down and crucify the ones trying to get the information out to the rest of us who REALLY DO NEED TO KNOW AND CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!
sarcasm on
Yes, I remember how much this board defended the people who leaked the harmless info on Valerie Plame /sarcasm.
The entrire liberal board stood as one in defending the person(s) who leaked that info.
I'm looking forward to the fundraiser they hold to help pay for Lewis Libby's legal fees.
Originally posted by Seekerof
The issue here is about the investigation into who leaked classified information that strictly and blatantly violates National Security Laws.
The NYT will be investigated.
The Washington Post will be investigated.
And the leakers used for their articles revealing classified information will be identified. Bet.
Plamegate has nothing in comparison to this investigation, nothing.
This investigation will be monumental.
Originally posted by ImJaded
My problem with this is I am hearing and reading of all this "investigating" into the leak of information that it was happening, yet nothing of Bush being held accountable for it. Did I miss something ?
Originally posted by Astronomer68
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The deliberate revelations by the New York Times is very close to treason and could possibly allow a group, or groups, to plan and execute a catastrophic terrorist attack without any foreknowledge on the part of the U.S.
[edit on 3-1-2006 by Astronomer68]
Originally posted by DjOsiris
Yet instead of prosecuting the guilty, we hunt down and crucify the ones trying to get the information out to the rest of us who REALLY DO NEED TO KNOW AND CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!