suicide

besides if u kill your self it would be oneless person talking on this wonderful site and we dont want that now do we ??

Well, since you're 17, I suggest to you to ride it out & be especially vigilant with your diet.

The teen years are filled with hormonal changes. It should be a temporary thing.

A natural alternative to try is St. John's wort. Look in the herbal section in the drugstore. I think someone posted on the board somewhere saying this worked for them.

Damnit, I found myself back here again. NO VOWELS (lol) no matter who you are, no matter what your problems (or perceived problems) unless you were grown in a test tube, or found under a rock (and my dad used to give me a hard time saying he found me under a rock so this case doesn't even always apply) SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE no matter how you feel, LOVES YOU. Drunk off your rocker refugee or not. SOMEONE loves you.

I slashed my wrists and overdosed several times when I was a teenager.


I'm glad I didn't kill myself. I'd have missed so many things. You'll never meet your wife or hold your son. You'll never know the joys of owning expensive stuff.


Ride it out, things can always get better. Be strong.

To whoever posted this thread I want to make a point. A while back in HS i felt like killing myself, although it was more like toying with the idea. I thought very deeply about why I would want to do this and what the effects were. I didn't really care or understand the people that cared about me so being loved or not was a non-issue. And then I realized something, and hopefully you will to:

If you're willing to kill yourself than you life doesn't matter to you, right? You're not a selfish person, though. So here's what you do: As long as you life doesn't matter to you work full time helping other people. Go camp out at a soup kitchen, or be some kind of social worker. Since you life doesn't matter, whatever you do with it shouldn't either. You're not selfish, so why don't you go help other people?

Now the "funny" part is that most suciduals have some shred of vainity and wouldn't want to "do something like that". But if you look hard and what you're proposing, helping others out shouldn't matter. More importantly, it could change your life to good.

disclaimer- I am no psychologist and recomend that you contact one before taking the above as advice and seek their professional opinion.

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You Have Some Very Good Advice perhaps you should consider being a counsler lol

who are you to say whats right for other people? i would never commit suicide but i dont look down on people who do or attempt to. sometimes you feel low and people react to that differently than others.

suicide is a pussies way out? what is the manly way out? live your #ty life out and just die then? as layne staley said " one who doesnt care is one who shouldnt be"

Inifnite, youre not a pussy. # these other bozos they obviously havent had that reality check that comes with such thoughts.

But remeber, youre young. In this #ed up world we live in, life is especially brutal to the younger generations. Especially teenagers. But, this is the way it is. Your feelings of wanting out are not unusual or strange, I tried to attempt suicide at age 16, and 17. Theres that overwhelming sense of hopelessness and despair that chokes the youth, when you look ahead at the lives of adults around you, and think, this is the # i have to look forward too? It can create gloom and despair, and a desire to end your life.

Yet the fact that you are still young gives you hope, tho, because once you get out of the miserable teen years and ebagin to make your own life, your determination will set it. Youre still young, now is not the time ultimately to consider ending your existance. You still have to go out and sample the world directly for yourself to determine whether or not its fit for thinking, feeling, human habiatation.

So, my point being, dont kill yourself, at least not yet. Acceopt the fact life right now life for you is in its beginnign stages, you need to go out there, feel the world, finding something that counteracts all the # the world likes to throw on you. Explore the world, expolore humanity, explore lkife, and come to your own comclusions.

Ulktimately, I believe suicide is a personal choice one makes, but one must be in the correct state of mind and devlopment to make it. You simply havent lived enough yet to make an informed descision on the world.

besides, teenage depression is VERY common, and it will pass. Youre feelings right now are only temporary. Allow yourself at least another decade and a half of life to go about and determine your space and opinion of the world.

Because if you find what youre seeking, youll laugh at yourself at this stage and life and wonder "how could i have ever thought of ending it?"

wow you have some strong feelings on this the creater of this forum asked for our opinions and we gave them. if i had my way suicide would not need to be considered but there is no perfect world and if people wanna kill them selves so be it. we cannot stop them. but we can say how we feel and yes suicide is a pussies way out. the manly way would be to seize your life and make it worth living for. Carpe Diem (Sieze The Day)

[Edited on 26-9-2003 by tealc]

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Inifnite, youre not a pussy. # these other bozos they obviously havent had that reality check that comes with such thoughts.

REFRESHER COURSE

Posted by ImAlreadyPsychoI used to be in those shoes. So I feel I have the right to be extremely blunt on the subject since I used to be suicidal, since I am slamming my former self as much as I am slamming someone in that place now.

Yes, I have had the reality check.

I am not saying Infinite is a pussy. I am saying that suicide is a pussy way out. In fact. Infinite will know exactly where I come from after reading his u2u's. Feel free to u2u me Skadi if you want in on the discussion. I am not trying to be rude, but to say "# them they haven't had the reality check" could not be further from the truth in my case.

Yeah, it's really not worth it. Been there, done that. I've never tried to cut my wirsts, but I thought several time about jumping off several places. There's this nice ravine that I pass by each time I go to work. It's really tempting, I could just drive right into it, I'd fly for a couple of second and then everything would be over. But that's not a way to end things. I know ImAlreadyPsycho was a bit brutal, but what he said is true. There's so much to see, feel, and do, you can't just quit right now. Now mather how big your problems are, when you'll have solved them, you'll find ridiculous that you even THOUGHT about suicide. Believe me, no mather what you think, life is worth it. I'm sometimes having trouble to believe it my self, but it must be true. Else, why would we be here?

i wanted your views and i have thought about all of them.

Seeing how more men commit suicde than women do, "seizing life" is hardly the "manly man" thing.

In some other cultures, suicide is the "manly" thing to do.

Allt his crap about seizing ones life is absolutely silly. Ones life more often than not, is not within ones own control. You have genetics, being born into one culture, a childhood one cannot control, certain factors that might block ones ascension to ones dream, ect.

And suicide is not always about not being able to cope with life, or a lack of success.

There are more reasons people commit suicide than you can imagine. There are numerous descisions to end ones life.

But, it is not a pussy way out. To say such is misleading, and sugests a person who either contemplates or does it is somehow "weak".

It boils down to awareness of ones situation.

regardless, what causes ones desire to commit suicide must be carefully examined. In the case of infinite, it is simply young, 17, and he is growing up in a sick, depraved, and inhuman world that would truly terrify any normal thinking teenage or person of similar age. In a society with almost little value for family, family support, ect, kids get lost. They become numbers, more meat to grind through the system. Thier ideals of life as an adult is based on the nonsense that adults around them engage in, they see the petty pointlessness of adults "seizing the day" which often keads to a sense of emptiness after they have seized it.

Thus, infinite, I suggest, dont look above you or around you at the idiots and what they have wright with thier own lives. Often, they are simjple minds who have done thinsg without thinking, or whose scope on reality is limited and puny. T=You still have time and energy and can avoid the same trap they have fallen in. The emotions you feel within are your own. Your life is one that only you know. But know, being under the thumb of your elders, or being caught in one trap doesnt have to last forever. You still can get out of it and see for yourself what reality is. If you look hard enough, youll find a piece of life, forgotten on some back road, untouched by the everyday idiocy, that can be all yours, and will find it much worth living for.

We lost a friend in high school to suicide. It was sad.
The world, good or bad, would have been a better place with him still around.

Stick around, hardship builds charachter in one's soul.
It will make you more thoughtful and stronger in your life, compared to one who's experience was given to them on a silver platter.

[Edited on 26-9-2003 by smirkley]

Suicide,
As harsh as this may sound is a cowardly escape from life.
Instead of facing and resolving your problems one commites suicide.
Iv known of people through freinds who have commited suicide and all becuase they could not handle life during thier times. So they decied to run and escape.
Only a weak person would kill themselves.
Deep

I've been suicidal before, and will probably be suicidal again. it's always an option.

Originally posted by tealc
While i am not trying to insult you or anyone else who has tried suicide , i feel suicide is for a weak person that cannot deal with choices they have made. i to have gone thru deppression they tried to make me take medicine for it but i wont . i have never considered killing my self. you only live once make the most of it dont end it cause you dont like how things are going

I agree with this so damn much. As long as you're alive, you can change the way things are going. Each passing second is a second you could be doing something about your life, and making your life be the way you want it to be.

everyone thinks about death...
just because some live under a veil of material does not mean he is no more afraid of life and death as those who fear...
let go, talk to family about issues, love ourself and others...
dont let society tell you what happiness is only you walk your own path...
and last but not least you are coming of age, and probably anxious or timid as to your destiny, don't worry...
just be and happily do such, there is nothing more than that...