what does it take...? (disclosure project)

I can't remember the last time I posted here it's been so long.

I've been researching the alien/ufo/etc, subjects heavily for over a year now. This started off with curiousity of the illuminati/masons/secret societies etc and stopped reading about that because I was convinced it's true, new enuff how it worked and there was no more need to waste my time. A video from the infamous david icke, and his book the biggest secret really tore things up with this. Ofcourse we all know he goes a lil far out, and over most heads.
plus alex jones, adbusters and whatever else I read, it wasn't hard to see there was alot going on behind our backs, and couldn't imagine how thick headed most must be to disfute this...

This eventually lead to my researching the alien/ufo/etc subject heavily for over a year now. Mostly because all the things that didn't click right seemed to start fitting together through this other angle.

I got the disclosure project a few days ago, and I'm now more convinced the aliens are real than ever before. Along with most else I had some dought and skeptisism in all this at face value. I've seen william coopers vid, and read too much with a skeptical outlook on the info given to me, my dought slowly faded, and this sealed the deal. Also all I've read alot about us coming from alien genetics etc, and this too seems hard to refute if you put it all together. It's not just wanting things to be bigger and more exciting than they are, or wishfull thinking, or anyhting to that nature, I came into this as doughtfull as anyone.

Well to bring up my point, I know alot of ya'll dL'd that vid too, and was dissapointed by all the questions still popping up. What is it going to take for people to just accept this is true. How can you still be unsure? I guess I'm just sick of seeing the same posts about the same things over and over. It's like so many on this board havn't spent anytime reading. It's the fuss and fight over every little tit and tat of info. There's not going to be any peice of info that's going to be right or wrong and have all your answers solved. It's going to come from looking at the big picture and how the pieces cancel out, cancel in and cross over each other that creates teh picture. I think everyone is a bit wrong and right, and the truth just sits there between the lines. oblivious, but even more obvious. Like stepping back from the magnifying glass on the little ufo blur pic and seeing the whole world from space, it will hit you deep in the heart and soul. and you'll know what's going on and what you have to do about it.

People just popping up with all the answers saying they've been abducted and what not, just adding more confusion with no ground to base anything on and who could be anyone. I can't help but feel it's just someone like me who has his mind set, clearly came to his views, and this makes him want to put everyone else in the same spot he's at. but again if you take all the spots and draw the lines you'll get the constellation. So I sincerily hope your honest.

It's getting old, we need to compile the facts and do something about this. If this disclosure project is what it really is. I havn't had the time to really get into what it's all about besides the vid as of the legit. Than we must push this to the public, and anything else people have the right to know. How? spread the word, simple as that. It's all we can do. If you use a file sharing program, throw all your vids and docs up to share, and tell people, anyone to DL it. talk a'lil about it with your co-workers, neighbors, friends, whoever is in your daily orbit when you have time. Not just UFO's, but how where all being screwed repeatedly in life.

This is more of a rant, but I'm about to stop researching into this too probably soon, cause there's only so much out there to go off of, and I really need to get on with my life and my career. I really don't even know were to start anymore, there's just too much to say... but something needs to come of this all quick, cause the end of our world IS near...

I have a feeling no one will reply to this, cause it's not really about anything inparticluar, but if you have soemhting to say, by all means.

when is the end of world?.

you wont find the answear to what you want to know here or any place on the net.. all the pics and vids wont do any good . you will have to see it for your
self . Or Some major news outlet with a major news broadcast telling the
world that Ufo's and such are real. And even then it would have to be repeated a few times with Vid and pics and maybe a few politicians shaking hands with a alien.

Dont get me wrong alot of us believe just from what we have seen/heard
on the radio , news , tv shows, history and lots of research.

But its always in the back of your mind , that you really want to see one
for yourself. maybe even touch one ect ect.

most of us have been doing research and looking into the skies for yrs.

facts ? we dont have hard proof yet atleast i dont.

but i still believe.

and i'll still keep looking into the sky and doing reasearch.

i wouldnt mind trying to find one of the secret underground bases, i think you would prob find alot answears there , if you lived long enough to see the inside of one.

either that or be lucky enough to come across a Ufo that has crashed .

its happened before right?.

Linda Moulton howe recently said on Coast to Coast Am ,
that there is a Buried Ufo in the Utah Desert and even gave the exact location . she and some other guy says that it was too big for the goverment to move so they just buried it.. Its something like 4 stories high
and several hundred feet ? long . and its impossiable to move.
But apparently they built some kind of tunnel to it , but the tunnel is abandoned now .

who knows, if i had the time , i would go and check it out.
But i wont have any free time untill late Jan or around that time.
maybe i'll check it out then.

anyways dont give up .



[edit on 21-12-2005 by Briggs]

Great post, mindsite. I totally agree fully with your points, and this is why I am coming here to ATS - to confirm there are likeminded people coming to the same conclusions - not via knee-jerkingly reacting to one or two pieces of information - but by compiling the bigger picture.

I have a friend who wholeheartedly believes in the illuminati / david icke biggest secret stuff (doesn't swallow any of the physical Reptilian shapeshifting stuff though) but everything else - yes. And I've also given him all the Disclosure Project stuff - the video, various Steven Greer radio interviews. This guy is just your regular working man with a wife and 2 kids - he's no kook - this is your "Joe Ordinary" guy who is utterly convinced by the material he has seen and of course especially the controlling nature of our society.

If this whole thing is blown wide open one day, I think people in general will be surprisingly more accepting of this stuff than most 'conspiracy kooks' on here assume. We all ask unanswered questions regarding our origins, our history, why the world behaves like it does and has done for centuries. My friend is even questioning the pyramids - he is convinced they weren't constructed by humans. This is quite significant considering this is just your ordinary working guy who likes a beer at the end of the day.

[edit on 21-12-2005 by RiotComing]

Originally posted by RiotComing
Great post, mindsite. I totally agree fully with your points, and this is why I am coming here to ATS - to confirm there are likeminded people coming to the same conclusions - not via knee-jerkingly reacting to one or two pieces of information - but by compiling the bigger picture.

I have a friend who wholeheartedly believes in the illuminati / david icke biggest secret stuff (doesn't swallow any of the physical Reptilian shapeshifting stuff though) but everything else - yes. And I've also given him all the Disclosure Project stuff - the video, various Steven Greer radio interviews. This guy is just your regular working man with a wife and 2 kids - he's no kook - this is your "Joe Ordinary" guy who is utterly convinced by the material he has seen and of course especially the controlling nature of our society.

If this whole thing is blown wide open one day, I think people in general will be surprisingly more accepting of this stuff than most 'conspiracy kooks' on here assume. We all ask unanswered questions regarding our origins, our history, why the world behaves like it does and has done for centuries. My friend is even questioning the pyramids - he is convinced they weren't constructed by humans. This is quite significant considering this is just your ordinary working guy who likes a beer at the end of the day.

[edit on 21-12-2005 by RiotComing]

Hmm i swear it sounds like your insulting alot of people here .

first i have to say , it sounds like you put alot of stock into what your friend says , because hes " your regualr working man " ??.

i guess the rest of us who dont have jobs and kids .. i guess i better take back the x-mas presents i bought for my wife and 3 kids and my cat.

and so he believes - means you believe ?. and most people are/can be convinced by vids/pics , but that doesnt mean its legit.

Concpiracy Kooks on here ?? -- i think alot of people here on this forum have legit questions and theroies ,

wich seems to be the oppisite of you , blindly following your friend because
hes just your average Joe who drinks beer at the end of the day..sorry
i have to laugh at that one

LOL - your Friend is Questioning the Origin of the Pyramids ??.
and thats different than all the other people who been questioning the origin of the Pyramids FOR OH SOMETHING LIKE THE PAST FEW THOUSAND YRS.

And WOW just think hes your average Joe , who drinks beer at the end of the day.
thats all i have to say to your uppty bleeping self .

i have to give you a big
for your acinide post.

[edit on 21-12-2005 by Briggs]

Mate, you missed the point. I'm a conspiracy kook myself - we all are labelled one way or another. I was seeing it from the outside world's point of view. I don't get why you are attacking me and saying I am uppity. I'm just supporting the first poster that's all.

Ummm you have totally misread everything I wrote. I said I forwarded on a lot of UFO / conspiracy-related material to a workmate and he now believes. I said "that's cool". I think if an ordinary guy in the street can do that, then the whole world can.. and disclosure may be more imminent than we think. That was my point.

The pyramids - well it says in my various history books and encyclopedias that they were man-made. I suspect it's in your Britannica too somewhere. Heck, it's even in the Usborne books about the Pharaohs I read as a child. Don't remember reading anything about alien assistance last time I checked. Icke himself talks about the "mysteries" of mankind, and how they intentionally remain to be a mystery. So they get some other blanket explanation, like oh well slaves carried the large stones down the Nile. That's the version we get taught. Your ordinary joe dude doesn't often get taught the story about alien helicopters and electromagnetic rays, you don't see that in our history books and children's encyclopedias. I'm more inclined to think the man-made story is pure bunk... and I'm more prepared to believe the unbelievable. So is my workmate. So, maybe, are a lot of people. I was not attacking working class people or nutjob weirdos.... it is a hell of a lot easier to illustrate what I mean via the use of stereotypes and I didn't expect a respondent to be so touchy - I thought it was perfectly obvious what I was getting at, and required precious little further explanation.

I wasn't insulting anyone. Well except maybe overestimating your particular comprehension skills. Read it again. If you can.

[edit on 21-12-2005 by RiotComing]

[edit on 21-12-2005 by RiotComing]

[edit on 21-12-2005 by RiotComing]

My point of view is that if someone 'reasonably ordinary' can watch a David Icke lecture for over 4 hours and totally support everything under review (except maybe the Reptilian material) then there's hope for the rest of the world. That's all. It's not just limited to the New Age weirdos and apocalypse freaks or whatever fringe labels are placed on people that are into this sort of stuff. I'm sure that's pretty damn easy to understand, and it's certainly not insulting to anybody... it gives me hope for the rest of the world.

And for your information, I don't "blindly follow anybody". In fact, at work today, we were discussing this very subject, how humans in general blindly follow eachother like sheep and it's exactly what the Illuminati wish us to behave. We were saying look, we all have to take a step back from this material and try and be open minded to be ready to accept anything. I personally found your comments to be insulting and in future I strongly advise you keep them to yourself.

All (or most) of us here are strong supporters of Disclosure and bringing the facts to the population. We all want the lid to be blown off the subject of UFOs and ET. We all want governments to be honest about the dealings going on and we all want to get off fossil fuels and onto free energy. And finally, we all want our true origins and our history to one day be laid wide open, which is what Mindsite was referring to. However, looking at your two incoherent posts, you seem to have little idea which issues either myself nor Mindsite were referring to. I'm sorry.. I don't enjoy flaming people but you annoyed me man. If you're going to respond, at least stay on topic and add something of value.

Yeah! - Merry Christmas Briggs

Disclosure... Maybe when some President screws up something..There will be a chance of Some sort of Disclosure..

[edit on 22-12-2005 by Ram]

Thanks for all your interesting posts.
I could talk about many UFO topics for hours and years.
But I'll just share some quotes if I may...
(True or not, better than the average SciFi)

1.
"Your people of planet Earth have yet to realize that intelligent life is teeming, virtually throughout the universe, in advanced civilizations and levels of development that would completely defy description. The countless billions of stars that appear in your astronomers' telescopes are only a fraction of the overall magnitude of infinite creation."

2.
"when I got out of special operations in 1989, we had cataloged 57 different species (in total). Some of them look like you or myself, there were 3 types of the greys." etc.

3.
"If, in fact, we are able to find life or to answer the question 'Are we alone?' then that certainly is grand enough and noble enough to be the enduring legacy of our civilization." - NASA, October 1999.

4.
"This month in UFO history... the more interesting UFO sightings"
- Rence.com

5.
Sgt Clifford E. Stone states that many or most intelligent ETs respect all living things. The variety of about 57+ species of ETs catalogued don't seem to be wild crazy murderers as portrayed by most TV media. All this information is coming out now in documentaries, Internet, TV, Videos, etc. And as Sam Neill said in a recent episode of 'Space The BBC TV series documentary. (2002) VHS or DVD. ... Sam Neill said on that documentary... "remember, our future is OUT THERE".
And most of us members believe that all of this, might help DOWN HERE too, on Earth.

6.
"Travis Walton wasn't hurt or killed.
But those ETs and Humanoids could have dropped him off at a 7/11."
- Sir Gilligan Horry.

7.
It's a Jungle OUT THERE.
- Alexa.
(Hubble Space Telescope)

8.
Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker's close encounter was real.
But the 1 or 2 or more species of UFO beings didn't seem to like us very much calling us "selfish". Which is weird because even most of us silly Humans don't put all the blame on our children. We educate and love.
- Anon.

9.
"Like in any other organized structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you."
- (Do You Wish That We Show Up)

10.
For those who have seen the Earth from space, and for the hundreds and perhaps thousands more who will, the experience most certainly changes your perspective. The things that we share in our world are far more valuable than those which divide us.
- Donald Williams, USA

The Earth was small, light blue, and so touchingly alone, our home that must be defended like a holy relic. The Earth was absolutely round. I believe I never knew what the word round meant until I saw Earth from space.
- Aleksei Leonov, USSR

The sun truly "comes up like thunder," and it sets just as fast. Each sunrise and sunset lasts only a few seconds. But in that time you see at least eight different bands of color come and go, from a brilliant red to the brightest and deepest blue. And you see sixteen sunrises and sixteen sunsets every day you're in space. No sunrise or sunset is ever the same.
- Joseph Allen, USA

The Earth reminded us of a Christmas tree ornament hanging in the blackness of space. As we got farther and farther away it diminished in size. Finally it shrank to the size of a marble, the most beautiful marble you can imagine. That beautiful, warm, living object looked so fragile, so delicate, that if you touched it with a finger it would crumble and fall apart. Seeing this has to change a man, has to make a man appreciate the creation of God and the love of God.
- James Irwin, USA

Suddenly, from behind the rim of the moon, in long, slow-motion moments of immense majesty, there emerges a sparkling blue and white jewel, a light, delicate sky-blue sphere laced with slowly swirling veils of white, rising gradually like a small pearl in a thick sea of black mystery. It takes more than a moment to fully realize this is Earth . . . home.
- Edgar Mitchell, USA

11.
Another documentary I recommend...
"What The Bleep Do We Know".
whatthebleep.com...

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