Was Dave Chappelle Taken Down by Oprah and Co?

Thank you, Orangetom.

We have strayed far afield from the Dave Chappelle situation, and my apologies to the author of this thread, and also to anyone my remarks have offended.

I speak from personal experience that nearly (and may still) cost me my life. I can only hope it doesn't do the same to DC.

For a long time I was confused by the constant displeasure and criticism coming from my now ex-wife (who is black, btw). Nothing was good enough, nothing satisfied, and I am a very good helper. A can of worms? Try being fed to one, piece by piece. Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Try worms and spiders and snails, inside! Voodoo dolls are just the beginning, I assure you.

I chose some bad methods of protecting myself from this onslaught early on, and put myself at a serious disadvantage. It was only after I chose and made a lifelong commitment to seeking peace that the Holy Spirit came into my life and started to make things right for me. The challenges are always there, I just make much better choices most of the time now.

I'm don't know if writing about all this here is one of my better choices, or not. More background on my personal story is available in Paranormal Studies under My Epiphany, if anyone is interested.

without going into alot of detail here..are you talking about magick. Occult et al?? This is part and parcel of dealing with many versions of the female/femminine religion you see in this world. Not all of these female/femminine religions are staffed by the female per se. Many are in fact male. This also comes in alot of varietys among people of different cultures.
The nuances of it can be difficult to determine if you are not well grounded in Faith. We are the Salt of the earth not the sugar.
Yes I know about some womens fascination with this kind of thing. Also about occult pratices.

I also know a few things about black women..in particular. While this is found among all women there is a fingerprint dominant among black women. Its just that the average male cannot take it this far in thinking..once again ..sports thinking/religion blocking the male thinking process. What a dumb bunch of males.

Thanks,
Orangetom

I am going to check out your story under paranormal studies.

Thanks,
Orangetom

I found your post under page 20 in paranormal studies My epiphany. I am going to reply there and bump it back up to the front of that topic.

Thanks,
Orangetom

I just finished reading this thread and read everything on the website listed and to tell you the truth I've always wondered why Chappelle would simply walk away from everything when he finally reached the pinnacle of his success.

While the website has some interesting and disturbing information, everything seems a bit to far fetched. Although stranger things have been known to happen. I'll have to do some more research to make an opinion one way or the other.

Originally posted by Saphronia
Oprah has no talent? She's a genius. She could read by the age of two and was skipped several grades ahead. Her talent is her intellect, but maybe in today's America that doesn't count for much. Some men are put off by powerful women so I understand that some may think she's scary, but talent-less ??? I guess I'm put off because I didn't know she was this hated on...yes, some of yall is just plan hatin! Oprah is one of my personal heroes...I just adore what she did with her life. To go from a Mississippi farm girl to one of the richest most powerful women in the world is just a thing of beauty and a testament to the greatness of America.

Don't hate....congratulate.

I said it before, I will say it again, Oprah is a no-talent hack.

I was unlucky enough to see that Tom Cruise "interview". I was also unfortunate enough to catch some of her trip to NO.

I don't care how smart she is/was, how well she did at school or where she began. I wouldn't put her on television because she has no talent. The same as Barbara Walters. There are numerous women in the media I admire, most of them in Australia (and on the ABC!), but Oprah, I cannot fathom. Or rather, the phenomenon of Oprah I cannot fathom.

I had a teacher once who was a genius. An actual genius. But he couldn't teach a class to save his life.

Oprah, the woman who, through her own ignorance and self-adulation, nearly destroyed the US beef industry.

Oprah, the woman who wishes she was born in South Africa. Tell me again she's a genius.

And as for today's America. Nothin' to do with me...

Oh, yeah, it's a thing of beauty, alright. The fact that so many women in America have abdicated their thought processes in favour of Oprah.

"Oh, this book was in Oprah's book club, I must read it."

"Oh, Oprah said she wouldn't eat any more beef. I must stop, too."

"What should I write in my Oprah Diary today?"

Perhaps the fact that I'm too thick to follow the news or investigate anything for myself. Or the fact that I love a woman who screams in ecstacy over her big star interview's latest revelation that he loves chocolate, vanill and butterscotch ice-cream when he's feeling low, just like me. Oh, I know, I'm going to admire a woman who fakes hyperventilating when she announces that her lates guest is...

You want to see interview technique in action, learn from the master and watch Parkinson.

You want to see informative, compelling interviews in action, watch Hard-Talk.

You want to see issues affecting society being analysed and discussed with some resemblance to the facts...watch anything else.

About Oprah...Im going to try and keep this brief.

I agree with your reasoning.

Thanks,
Orangetom

hmm. I thought he sorta went "crazy" Maybe he's just shocked that he's famous for nothing more than just saying Nigga. I love Dave Chapelle ever since half baked I've been a fan. Yeah hur hur weed humor who doesnt like it. I don't believe he was taken down by Oprah and Co. I think he just wigged out man got all spiritual for awhile. I read that he's coming back to his show according to cmdrkeenkid?

Thats good although I hardly watch tv but some new episodes on shoutcast tv will be good.

Maybe he just didn't like the way he is going to be remembered? and if he's coming back maybe he just realised he loves money. It's like every now and then celebs just flip out. Anyone remember the Martin Lawerence stunt?

I'll leave you at that.

But is he really making a return? /eye cmdr

Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
As of my last research, the third season still wasn't for sure...
he has not produced another episode since he left.

Ignoring the whole Oprah debate, I have to say that my latest research shows the third season is right on track to coming out in 2006.
I dont' see anythingot show that he's disappeared like the sight in the first post of this thread claims...

Not knowing much about the whole thing it seams like a simple case of rock our boat and well through you the hell over board and hold your head underwater.

People who have power dont like the thought of losing it!

Being Black in a White America can be tuff, being poor and black in white america just makes it plain unfair

you posted:

"Being Black in a White America can be tuff, being poor and black in white america just makes it plain unfair"

Is this sort of like being a "victim" or "victimization"

I am wondering if this is actually racism.

You see I dont hear this view about the Chinese coming here to America with little or nothing or the people from India living down the road from me.
When ever I hear the usage of the words "Fair " or " Unfair" I look closer and power up the radar set.

I hear this so much from different posters...I cant help but wonder if this concept of "unfair" is a cover for a type of racism. Particularly "guilt racism "which seems to be so popular today and has become a cottage industry particulary among social thinkers,public education, and politicians. The other word used so often to transfer guilt control from one group to another is "poor". "Rich" is another word . Know what I mean???.....if you are labeled "Rich" you are already guilty by default. No trial, no appeal, no lawyer.
Obviously, I am curious about this.
What do you think talon???

Thanks,
Orangetom

wow... umm... ok...

I have to agree with Saphronia. The guy was burnt out. While he was ALWAYS funny.. imagine you do something and then suddenly, in the span of two years you BLOW UP and are offered $50 million dollars to keep doing what your doing... being funny. Do you know how much pressure that must be? For that kind of money he HAS to deliver the same quality as the first two seasons.. that has to be tough for him.

That on top of the effect that the first two seasons has already taken on him and his family. "IM RICK JAMES BITCH" screamed in your face everywhere you go. I went to see him when he was on tour here on Long Island and the first thing he even spoke about was that.. and how stressful and annoying it was for him to just be out with his family and have people up in his face doing that. Hell at the concert some morons would yell out "IM RICK JAMES BITCH" or "YEEEEAAAH" and he would rip them to shreds over it.

Take that coupled with the fact that you have to come up with new materials, and im sure that there were ALOT of stipulations on his FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR contract.. thats enough to burn anyone out and send them running. He went to africa to get away. He is a muslim. He needed to clear his head. Wether HE chooses to do another season or not (continue episodes on season 3).. that is HIS choice.. not the choice of the magical Oprah or Bill Cosby.

Oprah putting a .45 to daves head.. and last I heard Farakhan was in such poor health i dont even think he leaves his home. Hell the man was VERY close to death a few years ago.. do you honestly think THEY care what Dave Chappelle is doing to the Black Community? I highly doubt that. He is not doing anything negative to the "Black image".. if the hit squad of Oprah/Bill/Louis existed maybe they should go after the bling blingers on BET and MTV.

Intresting post.
While I dont think your post was directed to me...I also dont think his humor is necessarily bad for the "Black Community".

What I perceive is bad about his humor..is that it is a danger to the body politic who uses the Black vote for political purposes..something very different from the black community. This is obvious by the political aftermath of Hurrican Katrina.
If the black community can laugh at themselves in humor ...the race issue used so often and deliberately in politics by "Victimization control techniques" stands eventually to loose its effectiveness as a political tool to galvanize voters at election day. This is a great danger to a body politic who need a gauranteed, predictable, controlable voting block to maintain thier polititical power. This is the danger..not the black community per se.
So to put in conversely..the body politic needs race and race issues to remain at the forefront of preconditioning to maintain power...ie votes.
In my eyes David Chappelle can be a threat to this system ..especially if he is a work in progress...humorizing issues that used to gaurantee votes.


Thanks,
Orangetom.

thanks for the comments orange It was a baited hook looking for a bite, while Im not big on rascism I must admit there is a little bit of guilt, Im Australian and have seen and lived with racism all my life.

Our country is a melting pot that is starting to boil over.

The comments regarding being black in a white america can be related to being asian in a white america or muslim in a white america.

Ill be more carefull where I fish in future

Thanks for your reply. I was not raised on racism in my family. We pretty much kept to ourselves most of our growing up time as my father was in the military and we were constantly traveling the world.

I learned to look at the colour of a persons heart for the important tell tails.

Talon, On another topic line concering racism or rather the boiling point going on down under. I recently came across a article which I bookmarked out of a magazine called the Quadrant. It is by a retired police officer named Tim Priest. It outlines the racial probems especially with the more radical and violent segments of the muslim populations down under. Tim also contrasts the difference in this problem and other racial problems in the past in Austraulia. I ask this because I see this trend coming here to the USA in due course. I also think someone is trying to keep any telltale sign of this from getting here now. They just couldnt do it with what happened in France so they seem to be changing the tone of it.
This is off topic for this thread so it might be more appropriate for the topic section on probems and conspiracys in Austraulia or what I just learned is a section called the U2U section of ATS.
Anyway ..thanks for your post. I understand the concept of fishing in your post. Its what I was doing to you.

Orangetom

This is a really interesting thread, well, the original topic at least. I find it especially interesting since Eddie Murphy openly spoke of Cosby contacting him in the 80's about his act, and the role he was setting. (remember raw?)

On the other side of the coin, Howard Stern was on the Daily show a week or so ago and he made some comment about how cheap Comedy central was, and how that was the real reason why Chappelle left, because he was not getting paid like he wanted.

Whatever the case is, it's weird how he blew up after years of work, only to ditch out. One thing is for sure, if his carreer is to continue, he will eventually have to explain.

I did not know about Eddie Murphy being approached by Bill Cosby in the 1980s. I am not a Eddie Murphy fan but could you elaborate on this for me?
I do know that many who come out of this comedy stable today use very common and vulgar humor. What I call the lowest common denominator. Hence I am not a big David Chappelle fan either.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Oprah's Private Jet Forced To Return To Santa Barbara Airport

Looks like a bird took exception to Oprah's private jet over Santa Barbara today. Too bad for the bird.

Coincidence? Maybe the birds are siding with DC.

While I am obviously not a Oprah Winfree fan I dont wish such a event on anyone. I have seen what a bird strike can do to a airplane when I served in the USAF. Very impressive.

I find it astonishing that around here they have put in alot of small ponds and lakes in a attempt to make this area more enviornmentally friendly. This has moved in alot of these black grey and white geese. I think they are what they call Canadian Geese. Anyway they are very big. They have done this close to the local Airport and also at the Airforce base just up the road. These are large birds and ingesting one into a engine of a heavily loaded plane could be disasterous at take off or landing. I wouldnt wish this on anyone.


Thanks ,
Orangetom

I don't wish anything bad on anyone, I try to do as Jesus said and pray for those who persecute me. Not that Oprah and her jet are anywhere near the top of that list.

I just thought it was interesting that here we are discussing these events, or supposed events, involving DC and Oprah and the 'dark crusaders', and Oprah's jet makes news after a bird strike. Fortunate for them it wasn't catastrophic, as anyone familiar with the phenomenon knows it can be.

Was it some kind of Kharmic retribution? That can't be possible, can it?