Australian Conspiracies

reply to post by riley


that toolernvale thing the thunder that was an electricity pole getting hit by lighting, i'm from melton. it happened right near the equestrian centre a few horses had to be put down because of that...

the same night some one blew a car up at the weir

Well I am so interested in whats really going on "conspiracies" and all, pine gap, underground bases etc, that i'll be joining the military soon in the hopes of getting to know some more...

Just not sure what department of the military to join to get the best inside action ??

Any advice ?

I'm sure a combat soldier won't see anything, besides maybe guarding the gates at pine gap...aaand that i don't wanna do...

I could join intelligence...but im really not "that" smart....

So question is...what department should I aim for ??

Mate, there really is no inside action. Just doing a job like everyone else. You can always aim for certain jobs, but defence recruits for what it needs, not necessarily what you want to do. Anyway, if you that keen to know the "inside stuff" you wouldn't get the clearance. Join up though, it can be be fun.

Martin Bryant was a huge conspiracy. The government wanted to take guns off of our streets and planned this tragedy so that people would be scared enough to accept the violation of rights their new laws imposed.

What I never worked out was whether or not people actually died or it was ALL fake. But Bryant certainly was not responsible.

29 kills with 20 head shots in 2 minutes by a left handed retard shooting from the hip using his right hand? I shoot, and I do not believe he could have done that, not for one second. One head shot ok, but after that people are running ducking and screaming.

Either there was a team of shooters, one really good professional, or it never happened.

Now, Australia is one step away from a military state with no way to fight back.

www.johnpilger.com...

"Smear is commonly deployed as a distraction. In 2006, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation’s leading current affairs programme, Lateline, broadcast lurid allegations of “sex slavery” among the Mutitjulu Aboriginal people. The source, described as an “anonymous youth worker”, was exposed as a federal government official, whose “evidence” was discredited by the Northern Territory chief minister and police. Lateline never retracted its allegations. Within a year, Prime Minister John Howard had declared a “national emergency” and sent the army, police and “business managers” into Aboriginal communities in the Northern Territory. A commissioned study on Aboriginal children was cited; and “protecting the children” became the media cry – just as it had more than half a century ago when children were kidnapped by white welfare authorities. One of the authors of the study, Pat Anderson, complained: “There is no relationship between the emergency powers and what’s in our report.” Her research had concentrated on the effects of slum housing on children. Few now listened to her. Kevin Rudd, as opposition leader, supported the “intervention” and has maintained it as prime minister. Welfare payments are “quarantined” and people controlled and patronised in the colonial way. To justify this, the mostly Murdoch-owned capital-city press has published a relentlessly one-dimensional picture of Aboriginal degradation. No one denies that alcoholism and child abuse exist, as they do in white Australia, but no quarantine operates there."

reply to post by Beelzebubba


Hi All,

I'm trying to create a complete centralised archive of material relating to the Nugan Hand bank saga - it's proving to be an interesting exercise as the threads seem to shoot off in all kinds of directions.

Any help/leads are appreciated. Some of you might care to peruse what's been listed so far. (A couple of posts are a little dubious but have been included for interest's sake) I think I'm headed down the rabbit hole like many before me!

www.nuganhand.wordpress.com...

Octopussassin

reply to post by stu1911


Hmmmm, Gaia Guys - weren't they taken to court for wrongly maligning the OTO?

They repeatedly labelled OTO members (who identify as thelemites by the way, not devil worshippers/satanists) as pedophiles, lost a court battle in which their targets legitimately defended themselves, refused to take the defamatory comments down...and unsurprisingly, after refusing to comply with a court order, it seems they got a kick in the pants from the courts and are now serving time.

No conspiracy there - plenty of people do jail time for contempt of court.

Octopussassin

PS I've seen scarier fundamentalist Christians on the rampage. The OTO, by comparison, are practically model citizens.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by Octopussassin]

Originally posted by Mikeraphone
Martin Bryant was a huge conspiracy. The government wanted to take guns off of our streets and planned this tragedy so that people would be scared enough to accept the violation of rights their new laws imposed.

What I never worked out was whether or not people actually died or it was ALL fake. But Bryant certainly was not responsible.

29 kills with 20 head shots in 2 minutes by a left handed retard shooting from the hip using his right hand? I shoot, and I do not believe he could have done that, not for one second. One head shot ok, but after that people are running ducking and screaming.

Either there was a team of shooters, one really good professional, or it never happened.

Now, Australia is one step away from a military state with no way to fight back.

I remember playing Time Crisis (TM Namco) and got through the whole game on one credit, with no practice.


Cheers, Fox.

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Check out this thread. Its more focused on the Port Arthur Massacre.

CT

I think Pine Gap would have to be one of the top conspiracies that most people know about But what about this new BS from Peter Garret Don't you think they could come up with a better story

Plans new base on Aussie soil.

Peter Garret, the Australian Federal Environment Minister has announced his support for a new US military base on Aussie soil.

This is an interesting turning point for the former singer, as during the 1980s, he pushed for the closure of the secretive American facility at Pine Gap – located in the centre of the country.

The ‘purpose’ of this new venture between the two countries is supposedly to share weather information.

What a load of crud Want to share weather info HA what happend to the good ole phone
One large Conspiracy if you ask me

www.youtube.com... funny about Peter Garret

[edit on 3-9-2008 by duffster]

Originally posted by Octopussassin
reply to post by stu1911

 

Hmmmm, Gaia Guys - weren't they taken to court for wrongly maligning the OTO?

[edit on 2-9-2008 by Octopussassin]

They actually had a screen shot of a statement from the OTO's web site which was promptly removed by the OTO after Gaiaguy's started to make a deal about it.

I can't quite remember the wording but it was something that gave you the impression it was ok to kill someone citing the "do as you wilt..." motto.

The court case basically was the OTO trying to get this screen shot (from their website) removed from the Gaiaguy's site.

reply to post by Figjam


Love to know if Billy Sneddon was murdered and it was put down to a heart attack. Was Lady Sonia with Bill and not Prue Acton

What about the Port Arthur Massacre?

Nineteen of the first twenty dead in the Broad Arrow Cafe died from single shots to the head, all fired by the unknown marksman from his right hip.

This staggering display of marksman- ship was blamed on left-handed and intellectually impaired Martin Bryant, whose shooting experience extended to popping off cans in the bush, and had no military training of any kind.

From the time of his arrest, remand prisoner Martin Bryant was illegally held in strict solitary confinement and denied access to media of any kind until his police interrogation on 4th July 1996.

When he refused to admit to the Port Arthur Massacre at interrogation, he was once more placed back in illegal solitary confinement. Eventually in desperation during November 1996, Martin Bryant pleaded "guilty" 72 times, thereby allowing the authorities to avoid a humiliating trial at which they could present no hard evidence of guilt. Intellectually impaired Martin Bryant was convicted by a hysterical media pack, then forced to plead guilty by prison officials illegally enforcing solitary confinement.

Sorry to bump this prehistoric thread, but I have reached a wall regarding Dr. Reina Michaelson.

It is claimed in many places that she has been awarded both the "Young Victorian of the Year" and "Young Australian of the Year" but I cant find any official confirmation of either.

Wiki doesnt even recognise the name. And the Wiki list of recipients for both aforementioned awards doesn't list Dr. Michaelson at all.

Can anyone help?

Not trying to discredit her at all, just seeking clarification.

CT

Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist
Sorry to bump this prehistoric thread, but I have reached a wall regarding Dr. Reina Michaelson.

It is claimed in many places that she has been awarded both the "Young Victorian of the Year" and "Young Australian of the Year" but I cant find any official confirmation of either.

hmmm... The only mention of her in connection with those awards, that I can find, is from news articles and blogs, but nothing official, something a bit fishy there if you ask me.

The articles all state she won these awards in 1996 and 1997.
According to the awards lists on the sites below she never got one at all.

Australian of the Year Awards 1960-2010

Victorian of the Year

Victoria Day Awards

After an hour of scouring the web I'm beginning to get annoyed with this woman, all the news articles quote the same thing

'Young Australian of the Year (for Community Service) in 1997'

But it's rubbish

Young Australian of the Year 1997
Nova Peris OAM
Olympic Gold Medallist

link

Same with the Victorian award, no mention of her.

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Originally posted by afaik

Originally posted by Octopussassin
reply to post by stu1911

 

Hmmmm, Gaia Guys - weren't they taken to court for wrongly maligning the OTO?

[edit on 2-9-2008 by Octopussassin]

They actually had a screen shot of a statement from the OTO's web site which was promptly removed by the OTO after Gaiaguy's started to make a deal about it.

I can't quite remember the wording but it was something that gave you the impression it was ok to kill someone citing the "do as you wilt..." motto.

The court case basically was the OTO trying to get this screen shot (from their website) removed from the Gaiaguy's site.

Can you post this screenshot then?
What you say would contradict the actual meaning of the motto.

OTO had a strong case against Gaiaguy's because in Australia you can't.. not sure what word to use, but you can't say bad things towards a religious organization.
The only way all the Scientology truth stuff is public and legal is because it is being talked about in Parliament which is exempt from the rules.

If anyone from Gaiaguy's actually had conceivable proof that the OTO was a satanic cult who kidnapped children then they wouldn't have been taken to court because OTO wouldn't want the evidence out in the public.

I don't think the OTO is a satanic cult, but it is a group that follows the teachings of Alasteir Crowley and Thelema. Does that make it evil? Depends on how they interpret his teachings I suppose. I'm sure if they were anything like what Gaiaguy's or that psychologist were saying they were then OTO wouldn't have went to court. I mean, if they're supposedly a satanic murderous kidnapping cult then why wouldn't they have just killed or silenced the psychologist instead of taking her to court and risking having everything made public?

I think the government is cloning super soldiers in the Australian Defence Forces. If you Compare the Pictures of: Matt Hall -Australian former top gun pilot who flew sorties in Iraq, now Red Bull air race legend. (en.wikipedia.org...:Matt_Hall.jpg) . Ben Robert Smith V.C. - S.A.S soldier in Afghanastan, Recipient of Victoria Cross for galantry in the line of Duty. (resources0.news.com.au...) Shannon Ponton- Personal trainer commando and celebrity host of the Australian Biggest Loser Television show. (www.dailytelegraph.com.au...) These are people who excell in there chosen field ....Look at thier pictures!

Australians, i feel, have a smaller percentage of mindless government followers than Americans. We all love to stand up for 'what is australian' and band together against it. The trouble is we are not very familiar with conspiracies, and tend to discard them as nonsense easily. We do seem to have a strong sense of moral justice, but i think we are fooled easily by media reports. What im trying to say is we have no problem hating our government ( most of us think howard is an idiot ), yet we are too ignorant to search for deeper truths. Once those truths are out, there would be no stopping them though.

Couldnt disagree more with assesment. On the contrary Australia simply has no one out there trying to wake pple up no Alex Jones or David Icke or George Noory ect.. instead we have idiots like Ray Hadley, John Laws or Alan Jones(completely a closet queer) do sue me Alan if you ever read this youll have to find me first! The closest we have is Brian Wilshire in Sydneys 2GB however he only scratches the surface about nwo or globalism occasionally and ends being just another pro Coalition shock jock!.
Serious alternative media of the expose kind is seriously lacking in Australia. The day the person comes whom will break this mould he/she will not be university trained in media or communications either universities do not teach expose infact most make a big deal of discouraging it and those that suggest it as being mentally ill!.

OTO had a strong case against Gaiaguy's because in Australia you can't.. not sure what word to use, but you can't say bad things towards a religious organization. The only way all the Scientology truth stuff is public and legal is because it is being talked about in Parliament which is exempt from the rules.

Yeah interesting so clearly no pollies or enough influential pple are Scientologists in Aussie pollie ranks for them to have many friends down there in canberra. However the OTO & Aussie pollies well... go figure!
Anyone can tell thelema cultists are evil by their written admissions. Crawley being the worst example. Anyone that thinks this can be justified is very twisted. I think there is justice in this when gaiaguys are again allowed to host their site in this country without fear of litigation. However it may simply be a whole lot easier for them to host it on a foreign server there are ways & means around some of Australias more stupid laws against freedom!.

Fosters Australian lager, made in Manchester……